Pardon the Friday interruption, but can anyone recommend a scholarly work examiningJudeo-Christian arguments against polygamy?
Thanks in advance,
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Biblical law of course allows polygamy. If it was good enough to the
Biblical patriarch and King Solomon, why isn't good enough for people
today?
Paul FInkelman
Paul Finkelman
President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law
and Public Policy
Albany Law School
80 New Scotland
Quote Scripture, please, Mr. Finkelman, where God Himself ever APPROVED of
polygamy. I don't think you can. Thank you, sir. John Lofton, Editor,
TheAmericanView.com; Recovering Republican...
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Accursed is that peace of which revolt from God is the bond, and blessed are
those contentions by
Jacob had four wives. And see Exodus 21:10; Deut 21:15 all of which
assume polygamy.
Marc Stern
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John Lofton writes:
"Quote Scripture, please,
Mr. Finkelman, where God Himself ever APPROVED of polygamy."
How much weight does the
absence of such a quote have in a discussion of what God does or does not
approve of? What counts as God approving of a practice? Must the Bible
explicitly
Using the theological principal of "the law of first mention,"meaning that the first time a principle is mentioned inScripture is its meaning throughout, in Genesis 2:21-24God created the first institution - the institution of marriage. One man and one woman; not Adam andSteve, or Adam and Eve
Sorry, some of us do not read the Bible in that way.
Marc
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Not talking
Not talking abt wht people in Bible DID. Asked for Scripture showing where God
APPROVES of polygamy. Stick to the context here, please. Thank you. John
Lofton, Editor, TheAmericanView.com; Recovering Republican...
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Accursed is that peace of which revolt from God is the bond, and blessed are
In a message dated 9/1/2006 12:52:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Not
talking abt wht people in Bible DID. Asked for Scripture showing where God
APPROVES of polygamy. Stick to the context here, please.
You can, of course, artificially
restrict the context so
In a message dated 9/1/2006 12:46:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Using the theological principal of "the law of first
mention,"meaning that the first time a principle is mentioned
inScripture is its meaning throughout, in Genesis 2:21-24God
created the
Bobby asks some good questions. But before I respond, let me, please, refresh
our memories as to exactly what the context of our discussion here is. The
context here is what Mr. Finkelman said which is: Biblical law of course
allows polygamy. If it was good enough to the Biblical patriarch and
Okay, here's one attempt to get back on track...
As I recall, the original request that tripped off this fascinating
diversion into biblical authority was for a scholarly work examining
polygamy in the Judeo-Christian tradition.
Aside from the various arguments that have been raised here about
Marc Stern wrote:
Jacob had four wives. And see Exodus 21:10; Deut 21:15 all of which
assume polygamy.
In the context of an old testament that provides regulations for
virtually everything, down to what kind of fabrics to wear and what to
eat, it's hardly unreasonable to conclude that the
Tertullian's On Monogamy and related treatises argues against not merely
polygamy, but remarriage.
At 08:58 AM 9/1/06 -0500, you wrote:
Pardon the Friday interruption, but can anyone recommend a scholarly work
examining Judeo-Christian arguments against polygamy?
Thanks in advance,
Chris
Didn't Jacob have two wive and also childern with two handmaidens as
they were called? I am not at the office or home, so have no Bible to
check.
Paul Finkelman
Paul Finkelman
President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law
and Public Policy
Albany Law School
80 New Scotland
It is nice to live dangerously. By the way I mean BIblical patriarchs
as there were many who were polygamous. Anyone with even passing
knowledge of Biblical law knows that Biblical law allowed polygamy.
Later in his post Mr. Lofton asks where does god approve polygamy and
the answer of course
Anywhere you go where you have a computer, you have a Bible - or at
least a Protestant Christian version of one:
http://www.biblegateway.com/
It's better than a paper Bible in some ways, because you can search
for terms, and there are several different available translations,
including
Title: Re: Recommendation...
There is a good short discussion of polygamy in Jewish law here:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/judaism/FAQ/04-Observance/section-55.html
Howard Friedman
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Do you have a conception of
reasonable inference as it pertains to the Bible.If so,kindly share
it with the List. What role does textualism play in your conception and must one
infer from specific Biblical text or may one infer from a more general
conception of the Bible as a whole. Is your
Basically a lurker on this list, wisdom would no doubt be for me to remain silent. Yet, "fools rush in where angels fail to trod." I have no idea who Mr. Lofton is or the nature of the group with which he is associated. However, acknowledging the stellar credentials of his critics, its seems to
Stephen R. Prescott, Esq. wrote:
Basically a lurker on this list, wisdom would no doubt be for me to
remain silent. Yet, fools rush in where angels fail to trod. I
have no idea who Mr. Lofton is or the nature of the group with which
he is associated. However, acknowledging the stellar
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Ed Brayton wrote:
You're missing an important distinction here: the Bible DOES condemn murder,
adultery and intoxication. It does not condemn polygamy, anywhere. Thus, it's
a far more reasonable conclusion to draw that condemnation of polygamy was
not a part of that
If mere action without divine
condemnation does not count as God's approval, then what does? There is nothing
circular is seeking an independent conception of how one ascertains God's
approval. Must it be a specific statement of approval or disapproval? What
counts as a reasonable
A valid point, the Bible does condemn certain items, so we do not have to infer the Biblical view from circumstanial evidence. However, that cuts both ways. The Bible condemns drunkness. Yet, Noah is in no way criticized in the Biblical text for his intoxication. Rather, a son Ham is condemned
Stephen R. Prescott, Esq. wrote:
A valid point, the Bible does condemn certain items, so we do not have
to infer the Biblical view from circumstanial evidence. However, that
cuts both ways. The Bible condemns drunkness. Yet, Noah is in no way
criticized in the Biblical text for his
Ed Brayton wrote:
I don't think it's true to say we can be absolutely certain that God does anything. I would call this evidence of incoherence within the Bible, owing to multiple writers and their own views, not as evidence of what God actually said or did.
Fair enough, this goes to ones
On Sep 1, 2006, at 8:47 PM, Stephen R. Prescott, Esq. wrote:Biblical law of course allows polygamy. I have two objections. Professor Finkleman’s statement quoted (cut and pasted, my typing is not good enough for me to type quotes) is at best, an overstatement. There simply is no Biblical law that
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