Re: FW: Student reprimanded for religious absences

2004-11-24 Thread Steven Jamar
The rule is could be expelled. There is no reason to think that a kid would be expelled only for missing 8 or 10 classes. It seems to me that sending a notice is proper and may even be required and that discretion in enforcement is proper as well. So, how could this rule NOT stand --

Re: Student reprimanded for religious absences

2004-11-24 Thread Steven Jamar
Smith was wrongly decided and religious belief and practices inadequately protected. Let me be clear about my position on that. But even under strict scrutiny the courts necessarily engage in balancing and judgment and defer in some instances to the legislature. That is my point which I may

RE: Student reprimanded for religious absences

2004-11-24 Thread Newsom Michael
But are the rules neutral? Public schools typically accommodate majoritarian religious holidays and holy days both Christian and Jewish (leaving aside certain Christian sects, as in the case under discussion and leaving aside, perhaps, some Jewish sects) but do not accommodate many, if

Re: Student reprimanded for religious absences

2004-11-24 Thread JMHACLJ
In a message dated 11/24/2004 11:18:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But are the rules neutral? In fact, does the focus have to be on how majoritarian religions are accommodated by the force of calendar and tradition? If the policy says students "may" be expelled rather

Re: Student reprimanded for religious absences

2004-11-24 Thread Steven Jamar
Huh? On Wednesday, November 24, 2004, at 11:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/24/2004 11:18:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But are the rules neutral? In fact, does the focus have to be on how majoritarian religions are accommodated by the force of

Re: Student reprimanded for religious absences

2004-11-24 Thread Christine A Corcos
Maybe you do what the Indiana schools seem to have tried to do, perhaps unsuccessfully, and what my law school gives law students, a certain number of excused absences. They use them however they want. After that, the school examines additional requests for excused absences extremely

Re: Student reprimanded for religious absences

2004-11-24 Thread Paul Finkelman
I agree with Doug here; NYC used to (may still) close for Jewish high holidays because there were not enough teachers in the classrooms. A practical solution; but the hard problem is when students want to take many many days off from school for holidays. I would oppose a strict number of days

Re: Student reprimanded for religious absences

2004-11-24 Thread Steven Jamar
I haven't seen anyone say that students ought not be accommodated for some limited number of religious holy days. So I think there is general agreement on that part of it. And I think that getting school boards to recognize holidays as excused absences makes a lot of sense. It seems that any