Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-24 Thread JMHACLJ
In a message dated 8/23/2005 3:51:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The facts are what they are. Many American students have been drivenaway from the natural sciences because of the overreaching of somereligionists. But you didn't say that at all: you said the

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-24 Thread JMHACLJ
In a message dated 8/23/2005 7:36:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In 2003 the Justice Department investigated a report of religious discrimination at Texas Tech University, where a popular and tough biology professor required students to pass his classes in

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-24 Thread JMHACLJ
In a message dated 8/23/2005 11:21:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The accusation that he was antagonistic to religion was and remains patently false. The fact of the matter was that the kid had made no demonstration of the academic horsepower required, and I

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-24 Thread Francis Beckwith
Title: Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article What would be an example of values trumping science? Now, Ive read articles and books in which authors offer arguments as to why certain scientific experiments and research are unethical. Because of these suggested

RE: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-24 Thread Newsom Michael
Title: Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article Example: Evolution should not be taught because Genesis (at least in the view of some, certainly not including me) teaches otherwise. (Alternatively, students should be discouraged from learning about evolution.)

RE: Two kinds of purpose inquiries

2005-08-24 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I think it's important to distinguish, as the subject line suggests, two kinds of purpose inquiries. The primary purpose inquiry under Epperson/Aguillard/etc. asks whether the primary goal of the legislature was motivated by a desire to further religion. The intentional discrimination

RE: Hostility

2005-08-24 Thread Berg, Thomas C.
Well, of course the pro-voucher side, correspondingly, generally accepts the need for a common ground and for some state imposition. The vast majority of voucher supporters are willing to have some state oversight of the educational quality and, within limits, the educational content in their

Mean hoax (these things happen too often)

2005-08-24 Thread Gibbens, Daniel G.
Title: Message I've been a member of the ACLU since 1979(the Skokie situation made it clearthey were committed to basic civil rights even when it had negative impact on their donations) -- I don't agree with all their positions (same as with my church), butI believethey are honest (like my

RE: Hostility

2005-08-24 Thread A.E. Brownstein
Thanks for your post, Richard.1951 - 1964 covers my public school career. By the time my daughter started public school, in 1988, the change in public schools was well under way -- although part of that may reflect the geographical shift from New York to California. Alan Brownstein At 11:08

Re: Mean hoax (these things happen too often)

2005-08-24 Thread Ed Brayton
Title: Message This is an old hoax. I've had it forwarded to me probably a dozen times over the last few years and even took the time to debunk it on my blog, as have many others. For some reason, the rank and file of the religious right seem particularly susceptible to this sort of nonsense

RE: Hostility

2005-08-24 Thread Newsom Michael
Title: RE: Hostility See my comments interlineated below. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Berg, Thomas C. Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:18 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Hostility Well, of

Re: Mean hoax (these things happen too often)

2005-08-24 Thread Brad M Pardee
Particularly susceptible? Is this like when the Washington Post said that followers of the religious right are largely poor, uneducated, and easy to command? The FACT is that there are a ton of e-mail hoaxes out there. I get them sent to me. Things like this as well as warnings about a tax on

Lawsuit seeks alternatives to faith-based prison drug treatment

2005-08-24 Thread Joel Sogol
From www.al.com : Lawsuit seeks alternatives to faith-based prison drug treatment 8/24/2005, 4:56 p.m. CT By BOB JOHNSON The Associated Press MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) Five Alabama prison inmates filed suit Wednesday claiming they are being required

Re: Lawsuit seeks alternatives to faith-based prison drug treatment

2005-08-24 Thread marty . lederman
Presumably the State violates the Constitution if it does not permit equal access to, and credit for, a non-religious treatment program. But I wonder whether there's not a more fundamental problem. It's hard to tell from this article, but presumably the treatment programs are operated, at

RE: Hostility

2005-08-24 Thread Berg, Thomas C.
Is the religious apartheid worry (or fragmentation as Alan calls it) based on any empirical evidence? For example: 1. Is there any evidence that religious-school students socialize with others less well than do public-school students? I'm not aware of such evidence. (And we do know that in

Re: Mean hoax (these things happen too often)

2005-08-24 Thread Ed Brayton
Brad M Pardee wrote: "Particularly susceptible"? Is this like when the Washington Post said that followers of the religious right are "largely poor, uneducated, and easy to command"? The FACT is that there are a ton of e-mail hoaxes out there. I get them sent to me. Things like this as