Gamaliel: A Historical Question

2011-02-04 Thread Nathan Oman
I have a question for those of you who are familiar with early modern, e.g. 16th and 17th century, debates over religious toleration. Do you know of any writers that used the story of Gamaliel as a justification for toleration. In the NT, Gamaliel is a Pharisee who argues against the persecution

The End of NY's Kosher Inspectors

2011-01-05 Thread Nathan Oman
According to the story below, NY has decided to nix its Kosher inspectors as a way of spending money. Does anyone know the details (and citation) for the 2004 case mentioned in the article? Also, I am wondering what precisely the inspectors after the decision. Finally, does anyone know why the

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant toanarbitration agreement?

2011-01-04 Thread Nathan Oman
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:35 PM, hamilto...@aol.com wrote: Point of clarification--So genital mutilation is culturally Islamic as opposed to theologically Islamic? FMG is not practiced by the vast majority of Muslims and there is nothing in traditional Islamic law that supports it. My

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant toanarbitrat...

2011-01-04 Thread Nathan Oman
I think it important to publicly identify criminal and tortious behavior with the religious tradition on which it rests. Otherwise, we are catering to the American societal instinct to whitewash religion to protect it from its darker corners. I agree with you in the abstract. You will

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant toanarbitrat...

2011-01-04 Thread Nathan Oman
I agree with what Steven says here, but with some additions. First, generally foreign law is treated as a question of fact rather than a question of law. This means that the courts don't make their own independent judgment about the content of UK law or the like but are supposed to take evidence

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Nathan Oman
It seems difficult to find an equal protection violation if the Court is merely enforcing the contract. It seems to me that a more likely constitutional objection would be that the contract cannot be enforced without running afoul of the neutral principles doctrine. Can a court make a decision

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Nathan Oman
Eugene, In your mind does the constitutional difficulty arise from the court choosing a Muslim arbitrator under the contract or from the enforcement of a contract involving religious terms? Suppose, for example, that the parties had -- pursuant to the contract -- chosen Muslim arbitrators, who

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Nathan Oman
I’m no great fan of the more expansive readings of Shelly. But when a government actor is deciding who gets a particular (lucrative) position based on that person’s religion, it seems to me that state action is eminently present, or more specifically that the government actor is

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arb...

2011-01-03 Thread Nathan Oman
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:39 PM, hamilto...@aol.com wrote: Isn't the answer to this question, Eric, that there is no single Sharia law? Interpretation of Sharia law requires a court to pick and choose between Sharia doctrines. It is not terribly different from the wide variety of Christian

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant toan arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Nathan Oman
First, I assume as a matter of contract law that any obligations arising out of such agreements that involve otherwise illegal conduct are void. So genital mutilation, trading of girls as wives (or simply for procreation), aiding polygamy, covering up child abuse when it is required to be

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant toan arb...

2011-01-03 Thread Nathan Oman
well chosen examples from the popular press, courts ought to understand how it gets used in the context of the contract and transactions they are called on to adjudicate. Marci Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Nathan Oman nate.o...@gmail.com Sender

Re: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-21 Thread Nathan Oman
If you step back from the concrete arguments over accommodation or discrimination claims, I wonder if we have any set of coherent narratives to tell about the relationship between law, religion, and commercial activity. It seems to me that when we talk about the relationship between religion and

Re: A Constitutional right to make pilgrimage

2010-12-13 Thread Nathan Oman
I tried to find a copy of the complaint online. Has anyone seen it? To second Mr. Stern's suggestion, when I was in practice we successfully sued the Wisconsin prison system for failing to accomodate Halal diets for prisoners. The claim looked dead under Smith, but the prison system was already

RE: Catholic Charities Issue

2006-03-22 Thread Nathan Oman
to suggest that they get some sort of free pass on the basic commitments of philosophical liberalism, given that they are much more likely to persuade those who disagree with them by appeals to liberalism than by attacks upon it. NBO -- ** Nathan Oman It is a misleading

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Nathan Oman
-- ** Nathan Oman It is a misleading cult that teaches that the remedy of our ills is to have the law give over, once and for all, the strivings of the centuries for a rational coherence, and sink back in utter weariness to a justice that is the flickering reflection

RE: From the list custodian RE: Pink Triangles and Religious Liberty

2006-01-27 Thread Nathan Oman
. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. -- ** Nathan Oman www.concurringopions.com www.timesandseasons.org It is a misleading cult

Re: B'nai Brith Canada wins in landmark supreme court case onreligious freedoms

2004-07-01 Thread Nathan Oman
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RE: Gay Activists Threaten Church Tax-Exempt Status

2004-06-04 Thread Nathan Oman
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Re: Religion Clauses question

2004-06-04 Thread Nathan Oman
except, perhaps, in Louisiana and all or part of Missouri, Iowa, North Dakota, Texas, South Dakota, New Mexico, Nebraska, Kansas, Wyoming, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Colorado and Montana. Art -- Nathan Oman http://www.tutissima.com http://www.timesandseasons.org

Re: Religion Clauses question

2004-06-03 Thread Nathan Oman
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Re: FYI An Interesting Case

2004-04-07 Thread Nathan Oman
. In the Pledge case, it is progressives who are opposing such coerced oaths of allegiance. But for too many people on both sides, it will always be about whose ox is gored. At 03:34 PM 4/7/2004 -0400, Nathan Oman wrote: This is interesting to me because it is an example of the civil

Re: Civil unions and marriage

2003-12-05 Thread Nathan Oman
Greetings, I actually am sympathetic to Professor Laycock's solution. It seems to me that the problems of marriage (at least in our legal tradition) were created by Henry VIII, when the ecclesiastical courts were made into an arm of the state. It makes sense to give marriage back to the churches