Re: [Repeater-Builder] Obtaining a Repeater Site (HOW)

2008-04-24 Thread Nate Duehr
These comments were all VERY good advice Gary. I would add some other comments to theirs... When people here say good equipment we mean it. Ask someone in the area who already has a repeater at a pay site what their lease says about it, many specify very specific gear required that many

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Carrier Control Timer (use the COR-2 circuit)

2008-04-24 Thread Nate Duehr
On Apr 22, 2008, at 12:25 PM, skipp025 wrote: The 555 is one of the most useful electronic circuit chips ever made. It has a fairly large number of possible simply configured mono astable (cycle) circuit operations. And it's just as easy to get lost when trying to use it for specific

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Info Wanted: RE: Motorola Channel Elements parts

2008-04-24 Thread Bob M.
There IS an article about temperature compensating channel elements on r-b. Go to the Technical Information section and search for Why should you really spend $50 to re-crystal a channel element or ICOM? While the method you describe will get the crystal to operate on-frequency at room

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Carrier Control Timer (use the COR-2 circuit)

2008-04-24 Thread Ron Wright
Nate, You are so right about using a MPU for basic functions like replacing a 555. If one learns the basics of a MPU in what would be a 555 application, this same technology can be applied to many other applications...just change the software and maybe add a I/O buffer. In one MPU one can

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Obtaining a Repeater Site (HOW)

2008-04-24 Thread Ron Wright
Nate, When you get going you go a lot :) All good advice. Most repeaters are a valuable properity for free. One needs to take the approach beggers cannot be choosers. On the equipment it is so easy and inexpensive to pick up a GE or Mot rig for a repeater it makes little sense to use a Ham

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Info Wanted: RE: Motorola Channel Elements parts

2008-04-24 Thread Ron Wright
Eric, I am having a netting problem with a Micor rcv ch ele now. Used same ele as in the original at 155 MHz, replaced crystal with 147 MHz, but best it can do is 10 kHz low in freq. Know 155 range Micor different from 147, but think they use same ch ele, but maybe with slightly different

Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-24 Thread Ron Wright
Fire Arms are good if you are there. When I was in the Nam we put up mechnical ambushes as they were called. About 15 claymores along a trail with a trip wire in the middle. Only real problem is a FNG who knew nothing wanted so much to help and would connect up the battery making the thing

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-24 Thread Ron Wright
Wayne, One issue on the connectors for reconnecting coax. Many make back to back type connectors for this. They are essentially the back end of 2 connectors joined as one piece/connector. Mostly used where a long feedline cannot be placed on one spool and must be joined or for other

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-24 Thread Ron Wright
There have been a number of cases where a store or home owner wired a booby trap and someone got injured. Outlawing this is the law in many states. It is mainly due to the intruder might be a family member or fireman, etc trying to get in for good reasons. I would think it best for any

Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-24 Thread Steve
At least here in Kansas we can now have full auto weapons and machine guns with silencers, makes security a little quieter. Anyway, why not just wrap your hard-line with burglar alarm tape, connected to a dc relay. This would trip a dc horn or siren (old police sirens work well or 28 volt

RE: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-24 Thread Robert Pease
Thats not a bad idea, I was getting tired of the weapon approach, I started to think this was a weapon list. Hook your alarm to an input on the repeater and it could alert you also if someone tampered with it. Rob - KS4EC From:

RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-24 Thread Paul Finch
Ron and Wayne, I have several of those splice connections from a job where I got to remove old Heliax on top of a building. They make them to go from the same size cable to others also. If you have 1 5/8 Heliax you can convert to 7/8 or 1/2 inch but be warned, they may be expensive. They are

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Carrier Control Timer (use the COR-2 circuit)

2008-04-24 Thread Ron Wright
Skip, The LM324 has many good features for low level requirements. High offset voltage (2 typ, 7 max, always design to max) and cross over distortion has always been an problem with much of what I do. It having 4 in a package is a plus and it has its place. I should not say it, but I would

Re: [Repeater-Builder] timer???

2008-04-24 Thread Ron Wright
Ted, With me in the Tampa Florida with the Rays I have to look for another team and always enjoy the Cubs. Guess from my Cincinnati days with the Reds. Would go to game with Cubs and seems more Cub fans there than Reds. Of course this was in an off season for the Reds which they have had a

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-24 Thread Ralph Messer
Wayne If you use the N male female splice you might want to look at how much flexing the cable will get. If this cable is 7/8 inch then the flex on the joint can be catastrophic, especially if it is somewhere on a tower. I would suggest a pair of EIA flanges to make a good mechanically strong

[Repeater-Builder] Fw: Thank You, Lord

2008-04-24 Thread Ralph Messer
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Obtaining a Repeater Site (HOW)

2008-04-24 Thread Steve Matda
I bought my own as well. $500 for a one acre tract at 3000' (1000 ft HAAT). It was a ex-American Electric Power microwave relay site. Right now it's sitting empty except for the old transmitter building and antenna masts. I would really like to use it for a repeater (or a weekend getaway

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Info Wanted: RE: Motorola Channel Elements parts

2008-04-24 Thread kk2ed
I have about a dozen Micors on the air with the elements done this way, and they are all rock solid. Some sites go from below freezing to over 100F in the summer, and they stay right on. They've been running close to 10 yrs now. Other than changing caps, what else are they doing that makes

[Repeater-Builder] SpectraTac Housing - SMA Connector?

2008-04-24 Thread Adam C. Feuer
Hello All, I'm going to be removing a low band receiver board from a Spectratac housing and replacing it with a 900mhz receiver. Does anyone know the manufacturer and part number of an SMA connector that can be purchased and crimped on to the coax jumper in the housing? If I cut off the RCA

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Carrier Control Timer (Kit Building 101)

2008-04-24 Thread skipp025
Nothing wrong with using any good reference material you can find in any potential design. Many of the people on this group ask how they can best learn about repeater related electronic circuits and I can't think of an easier method than kit building a well done kit circuit. We can always

Re: [Repeater-Builder] spectra radio dead from ebay

2008-04-24 Thread Dan Blasberg
I would recommend replacing all of the caps and inspecting all of the traces around the caps to ensure none have failed due to a leaking cap. After that I would see what you get for error codes and if fail 01/90 remains, get you hands on another spectra (bandsplit doesn't matter) and swap

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Thank You, Lord

2008-04-24 Thread Tony Lelieveld
Moderators, Why are we getting jokes on this list server? Isn’t there enough wasted bandwidth on the internet already? I am telling all my friends NOT to send me all kinds of that crap. Some attachments are 10Mb. Some people can’t get high speed internet because they live in the country

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Thank You, Lord

2008-04-24 Thread Ralph Messer
to all concerned It is I that sent the jokes It was not and I repeat not intended to be on this or any other message board I sincerely apologize to all there is a list I use to send messages to a select group somehow this group got listed onto that list I have since removed the listing

[Repeater-Builder] Power supply ID and schematic needed

2008-04-24 Thread Ken Hunter
Hello... New list member here and first post. I've been given a Motorola HV power supply and was told it came from a 1/4 KW repeater. I've spent 7 hours today searching the Internet and have not been able to ID the beast. Perhaps someone on the list has some info for me. The markings on the

[Repeater-Builder] Control of a Fan

2008-04-24 Thread John Transue
I have a fan cooling a remote base transceiver. The fan is on 24/7. I would like to have the fan on only when the transceiver PTT is active (active low). Alternatively, I would like to have the fan on only when the RB is commanded to RX/TX mode. There must be many simple solutions to this

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Thank You, Lord

2008-04-24 Thread Tom Kinard
And you just resent it all.. May not have been the best place to send it to, but thanks Ralph. The little Heavens note was most welcome to me. Tom WA0RTU Tony Lelieveld wrote: Moderators, Why are we getting jokes on this list server? Isn’t there enough wasted bandwidth on the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Thank You, Lord

2008-04-24 Thread Paul Finch
Ralph, Guess it's happened to all of us from time to time. It is very east to hit the wrong button and even easier to hit the button to condemn someone for a mistake. Not all of us are perfect. I figured when you saw it you would correct the problem and there was no need to jump down your

[Repeater-Builder] Mini-UHF to LMR400

2008-04-24 Thread Mike Wolthuis
I have two CDM 1550's for link radios on UHF I want to feed with LMR- 400 because they are about 80ft runs up a commercial tower. I need to get from LMR-400 to mini uhf connector on the radio. Everyone has told me not to use the adapters, but to use a cable that is PL-259 to mini uhf. Is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] SpectraTac Housing - SMA Connector?

2008-04-24 Thread Bob M.
I don't think there's anything special about the connector or cable. You can just buy a regular straight SMA male (crimp or solder) for RG400, use a short piece of RG400, and attach it to the existing N-female chassis socket. Or make/buy a short SMA to N-male cable and install a bulkhead

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Manual

2008-04-24 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Doesn't anyone check the website or do a google search anymore?? http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38a-inst%20manual-025-9043y.pdf Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Jack Davis To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mini-UHF to LMR400

2008-04-24 Thread Bob M.
You'll place a lot of strain on the mini-UHF connector on the back of the radio if you use a small adapter connected directly to the coax. Use a short jumper made from RG400 (more flexible than RG142) with a mini-UHF-male on one end, and whatever you need to mate with the LMR at the other end.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Thank You, Lord

2008-04-24 Thread Scott Zimmerman
This has been taken care of. Enough discussion on the topic. Scott - List moderator Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Tony Lelieveld To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:39 PM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mini-UHF to LMR400

2008-04-24 Thread Ralph Messer
Mike If you want a adaptor or a cable made up try these folks www.pasternack.comhttp://www.pasternack.com/ Ralph - Original Message - From: Mike Wolthuismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.commailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April

RE: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-24 Thread Paul Plack
OK, Rob, I'll bite... If the cable's been cut, activating the alarm, how will the repeater alert you? This sounds like a solution I'd come up with, then later say, ...d'oh! 73, Paul, AE4KR _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pease

Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-24 Thread wb8art
Well it won't be broadcasting every 5 minutes! What else?:-) Randy --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Paul Plack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Rob, I'll bite... If the cable's been cut, activating the alarm, how will the repeater alert you? This sounds like a solution I'd come up

Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-24 Thread Steve
Well, if it has reverse autopatch on your controller, you could program it to call you by land line. Program the macro with something like- Danger Will Robinson lol Ok my bad. - Original Message - From: Paul Plack To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April

Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-24 Thread Rob
Steve wrote: Anyway, why not just wrap your hard-line with burglar alarm tape, connected to a dc relay. This would trip a dc horn or siren (old police sirens work well or 28 volt locomotive horns) and halogen lights. A nice small camera to record the bad guys crapping their pants and

RE: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-24 Thread Robert Pease
I guess you are right... DOH lol Maybe you'll get lucky and be the last cable cut! Rob From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Plack Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:42 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mini-UHF to LMR400

2008-04-24 Thread Thomas Oliver
I have picked up some short cables (about 6 or 8 inches) with N female bulkhead fittings on one end and mini UHF male on the other end just for that purpose off of ebay. Just do a search for mini UHF and see what comes up. tom n8ies [Original Message] From: Mike Wolthuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] SpectraTac Housing - SMA Connector?

2008-04-24 Thread Adam C. Feuer
Hi Bob, Thanks for the reply. I too didn't think that there was anything special about the cable or connector. I was just looking to see if anyone knew of a supplier and part number for the SMA crimp on for RG400. ( I guess I should have typed it that way to begin with!) Thanks again! Adam

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mini-UHF to LMR400

2008-04-24 Thread n9wys
Mike, Another source for your jumper cable or adapter might be the RF Connection: http://www.therfc.com/ I just had Joel make up a cable I needed for my 900 MHz MSF5000 repeater conversion. Very good quality and reasonable pricing, plus quick turn-around time. (I had tried my own hand

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Control of a Fan

2008-04-24 Thread George Henry
There are 2 circuits for fan contollers on the Repeater Builder website at http://www.repeater-builder.com/projects/project-index.html 73, George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 - Original Message - From: John Transue To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008

RE: RE: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-24 Thread MikeDeWaele
Being a fire chief one of the standard questions I always ask at any fire is do you have any loaded fire arms inside? When loaded guns get hot the shell discharges just like it is being fired! Doesn't matter if the safety is on or not. I personally like the animal electric fence idea. Hook

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Firearm Safety (Not much to do with Repeaters, I Hope)

2008-04-24 Thread Jim Brown
Mike, back during the Nam days I was supporting some OV-10s at NKP Thailand and one augered in on takeoff at the base. We all started running out to where the pilot had ejected to see if we could help when all of a sudden the burning aircraft started popping and shells started ratteling off

Re: [Repeater-Builder] SpectraTac Housing - SMA Connector?

2008-04-24 Thread Bob M.
I know that Mouser, Jameco, and Digikey have SMA connectors, although they might be solder rather than crimp. You'll probably even find some on eBay, and maybe even an entire cable. Bob M. == --- Adam C. Feuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, Thanks for the reply. I too didn't think

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Channel Elements parts

2008-04-24 Thread Eric Lemmon
It's not just netting the crystal; there's a lot more to compensating a crystal than simply compensating for temperature. It is easy to assume that all ICM or Bomar does is to tweak a few capacitors so that the crystal can 1) be brought to the proper frequency with the trimmer centered, and 2)

[Repeater-Builder] MSR 2000 alignment problem

2008-04-24 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
I have a uhf msr2000 which I recently changed frequency to 464.075/469.075. Original freq was about 1.5mhz away. I sent the elements in and had them recrystaled. After I installed them and tuned up the receiver it worked pretty well for a month. I noticed it loosing sensitivity lately so I

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-24 Thread Wayne
Did some searching, and it looks like splices would run maybe twice or more the cost of one male and one female. I found about $30 or so, maybe more, I forget, just for the inner part, and the only shell I found by itself was out of sight. A splice for larger Heliax seems to be around