Hi -
I read in a post you made in late March on the hamtrbo.org forum about trying
out the Hytera (HYT) equipment on a mototrbo system you had up and running to
see how it worked and how compatible it was. Also you mentioned an outlet for
hams to purchase. Of the HYT dealers I have seen and
On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:35 AM, Kris Kirby wrote:
Don't forget that a public safety radio system and a Japanese ham
protocol are two different things. The Japanese language is ideological,
English is something else. We don't think the same, or implement things
the same ways.
That's one of
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Nate Duehr wrote:
That's one of the mildly interesting things about TRBO, it's not a
Public Safety system. It's commercial, but rarely used in Public
Safety...
Perhaps what you're saying (paraphrased here) is MotoTRBO is D-STAR
done by Americans.?
LOL... that'll
Kris,
Mototrbo is not DStar and DStar only has one voice path.
Just to add some confussion to the mix, There are many public safety agencies
using Mototrbo and love it.
Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ
6886 Sage Ave
Firestone, CO 80504
303-736-9693
k7...@skybeam.com
On Mar 14, 2010, at 12:54 PM,
On Mar 14, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Kris Kirby wrote:
If there is one thing that seems certain in the PS arena, it is that
Motorola is trying to sell every solution except something APCO-25
compliant, and attempting to confuse thier customers into purchasing
systems which are not.
Actually
On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:49 PM, k7pfj wrote:
Just to add some confussion to the mix, There are many public safety agencies
using Mototrbo and love it.
Not to mention blowing any chance of their radios interoperating with the
County next door... Tower of Babel. Build it to the sky. That's the
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Nate Duehr wrote:
It's well-implemented, and as one local pointed out... it behaves like
I expect a commercial radio system to... he was comparing to D-STAR
where you *have* to fidget and mess with callsigns, etc... to really
utilize all the features... in TRBO, he
You can also find out more information about how Mototrbo is being used by
amateur radio operators at this link.
trbo.info
We currently have 10 Mototrbo repeater connected via IP coast to coast and
border to border.
Randy
WB0VHB
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon
From what some are saying, all 'colors' are active on all repeaters.
It's like having a repeater that passes CTCSS. Anyone can use your
repeater and you cannot shut the code (or color) off. Again, this is
what I'm hearing from some people.
Joe M.
Nate Duehr wrote:
The color codes are like
But if it passes everything, it's like putting a repeater on the air CSQ
- you can't have another repeater within range of the first one.
Joe M.
Brian Raker wrote:
You do have to program it to use a set frequency pair, just like any
other repeater.
-BR
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:53 PM,
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of MCH
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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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Just the frequency, and not which TGs it passes? Do all TRBO repeaters
pass all TRBO format
On Mar 12, 2010, at 8:38 AM, MCH wrote:
So you have color codes, TGs, AND RIDs and each repeater has only one
color code?
I'll see if I can find out about the color codes. I think a repeater will pass
more than one, and I think you DO program that part... but not sure. They're
only using
Answers to most of the Mototrbo questions can be found in the Mototrbo System
Planner.
Here is some information on color codes and groups copied from that document:
Color codes are defined by the Digital Mobile Radio (DMR) standard and can be
used to separate two or more MOTOTRBO digital radio
On 3/12/2010 1:03 PM, nj902 wrote:
Answers to most of the Mototrbo questions can be found in the Mototrbo
System Planner.
Here is some information on color codes and groups copied from that
document:
Color codes are defined by the Digital Mobile Radio (DMR) standard and
can be used to
Great info.
I assume that users are shut off via a 'kill code' to the radio since
the repeater cannot be used to allow selective access.
Also, is there a URL for the system planner?
Joe M.
nj902 wrote:
Answers to most of the Mototrbo questions can be found in the Mototrbo System
Planner.
On 3/12/2010 1:46 PM, MCH wrote:
Great info.
I assume that users are shut off via a 'kill code' to the radio since
the repeater cannot be used to allow selective access.
Also, is there a URL for the system planner?
Joe M.
Since I don't know if I'm supposed to have it, I sanitized it of
If you search with Google, you can find the full PDF.
-BR
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com wrote:
On 3/12/2010 1:46 PM, MCH wrote:
Great info.
I assume that users are shut off via a 'kill code' to the radio since
the repeater cannot be used to allow
The current version of the Planner document discusses the Capacity Plus
[trunking] and IP Site Connect modes.
This document carries part number 6880309T12-H and is available at MOL where it
appears to have been posted 11 Feb 2010. There are several new Mototrbo
documents there - some posted
The Motorola docs have likely been updated for the recently announced
MTR3000 and the MTR2000 upgrade, as well as the new XPR8380 800MHz
repeater.
-Brian
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:11 PM, nj902 wb0...@arrl.net wrote:
The current version of the Planner document discusses the Capacity Plus
For the technically inclined reader:
http://www.dmrassociation.org/what-is-dmr.htm
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 12:47 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems
Great info.
I assume that users are shut off via a 'kill code' to the radio since
the repeater cannot be used to allow selective access.
Also, is there a URL
I talked to an owner of a system last night and he confirmed that user ID's are
8 digit, as are talk groups. There are some numbers that are reserved for
all-call and other things, so the straight math doesn't work out exactly, but
it's so many theoretical users and talk groups, you'd never
Time to start taking the lead and develop something!!
http://developer.motorola.com/products/twowayradios/
Nate Duehr wrote:
I talked to an owner of a system last night and he confirmed that user
ID's are 8 digit, as are talk groups. There are some numbers that are
reserved for all-call
And how many of these TGs can be used in a repeater at the same time?
Thanks,
Joe M.
Nate Duehr wrote:
I talked to an owner of a system last night and he confirmed that user ID's
are 8 digit, as are talk groups. There are some numbers that are reserved
for all-call and other things, so the
Each repeater handles two 6.25 KHz channels simultaneously, if that's what
you mean...? But both channels are continuously received by the
portables/mobiles. The transmission is one big interlaced TDMA signal that
takes up the full 12.5 KHz spectrum even if only one channel is in use.
I can
Don't they charge money for that privilege? I was under the impression that
they do.
Nate WY0X
On Mar 11, 2010, at 9:00 AM, KT9AC wrote:
Time to start taking the lead and develop something!!
http://developer.motorola.com/products/twowayradios/
On 3/11/2010 11:10 AM, MCH wrote:
And how many of these TGs can be used in a repeater at the same time?
Thanks,
Joe M.
Outside of the ones that are dedicated to a specific purpose, like
interconnect, etc, all of them. Like any other trunked system.
And there is not any special option to order to get multiple TGs?
The base model will support all TGs that are possible?
Joe M.
wd8chl wrote:
On 3/11/2010 11:10 AM, MCH wrote:
And how many of these TGs can be used in a repeater at the same time?
Thanks,
Joe M.
Outside of the ones that
I was talking about how many can be programmed in the repeater, not
necessarily active at the same time per se. IOW, how many talkgroups
can you program into the repeater. I'm assuming that you can 'deprogram'
some if you have two systems in the same area.
I think WD8CHL answered the question
Thanks for the explanation Nate. Reminds me of Smartnet II simulcast
systems locally (one TG brings up all five sites for example).
Tony
Nate Duehr wrote:
Each repeater handles two 6.25 KHz channels simultaneously, if
that's what you mean...? But both channels are continuously received
by
On 3/11/2010 3:50 PM, MCH wrote:
And there is not any special option to order to get multiple TGs?
The base model will support all TGs that are possible?
Joe M.
I don't see why not. It's part of the protocol, kinda like IP
addresses...sorta...
I'm gonna say it's on the order of 65535 total
On 3/11/2010 1:54 PM, MCH wrote:
I was talking about how many can be programmed in the repeater, not
necessarily active at the same time per se. IOW, how many talkgroups
can you program into the repeater. I'm assuming that you can 'deprogram'
some if you have two systems in the same area.
I
So if there are two TRBO repeaters in the same area, there is no way to
keep them both from being active and interfering with each other? That
doesn't sound right.
Or, if I have a repeater, anyone can just buy TRBO radios and use it?
Joe M.
Nate Duehr wrote:
On 3/11/2010 1:54 PM, MCH
You do have to program it to use a set frequency pair, just like any
other repeater.
-BR
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:53 PM, MCH m...@nb.net wrote:
So if there are two TRBO repeaters in the same area, there is no way to
keep them both from being active and interfering with each other? That
Just the frequency, and not which TGs it passes? Do all TRBO repeaters
pass all TRBO format transmissions? Even those of people who are not
authorized to use the repeater?
Joe M.
Brian Raker wrote:
You do have to program it to use a set frequency pair, just like any
other repeater.
-BR
a MotoTRBO
system where I work - I can check further if necessary.)
Mark - N9WYS
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On Mar 11, 2010, at 6:53 PM, MCH wrote:
So if there are two TRBO repeaters in the same area, there is no way to
keep them both from being active and interfering with each other? That
doesn't sound right.
They're on different frequencies. Not sure what you're saying here.
Or, if I have a
can check further if necessary.)
Mark - N9WYS
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Just the frequency
p.s. If any of this were simple, tech support jobs would dry up and be a thing
of the past. :-)
I literally had a lady on the phone tonight who couldn't figure out that when
she clicked on twenty different things at a time, her PC got so busy it caused
the operating system to start throwing
Dan,
TRBO-6 network website is: www.trbo.info and has some basic info for getting
repeaters onto the network. Or checkout the yahoo group: mototrbousa
...Mike, wb6...@gmail.com
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dan Blasberg ka8...@... wrote:
Mike,
In the DC area there is currently
Along those lines? How many groups of users will the standard MotoTRBO
repeater support in digital mode? I know it will do 2 simultaneously,
but how many overall?
Also, I know it will support a single NBFM user - can a CTCSS panel be
attached to it?
Thanks,
Joe M.
wb6wui wrote:
Dan,
Thanks for the info Mike.
Dan
KA8YPY
On Mar 10, 2010, at 12:19 PM, wb6wui wrote:
Dan,
TRBO-6 network website is: www.trbo.info and has some basic info for
getting repeaters onto the network. Or checkout the yahoo group:
mototrbousa ...Mike, wb6...@gmail.com
--- In
On 3/10/2010 1:47 PM, MCH wrote:
Along those lines? How many groups of users will the standard MotoTRBO
repeater support in digital mode? I know it will do 2 simultaneously,
but how many overall?
Also, I know it will support a single NBFM user - can a CTCSS panel be
attached to it?
Thanks,
Just to clarify, I'm talking about what would be equal to talkgroups.
Although it does make me feel better others cannot find the answer
either. :-)
Joe M.
Nate Duehr wrote:
On 3/10/2010 1:47 PM, MCH wrote:
Along those lines? How many groups of users will the standard MotoTRBO
Hi all,
It may a bit out of topic .
For increase the coverage of a single site TDMA format repeater.
Dual to the time delay from distance .
Can we put a power Amp. to do that .
Or Add a power Amp . on the FDMA fromat repeater may more , less better ?
TNX 73s
de VR2XVD
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at
Look for this to appear in the next version of Icom's vocoder.
'JK
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr n...@... wrote:
What specific radio will do both NXDN and P25... and what would firmware
loads to do both legally, cost? Carrying a laptop and switching when needed,
Just because Motorola comes out with a system first does
not always mean it will be accepted as the de-facto standard,
Normally you'd want to think the above is true...
You should see the line of Borg (event attendees) waiting to
get into the IWCE Motorola Displays. Almost in-line pushing
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