[Repeater-Builder] Welcome to 2007...

2007-01-01 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Happy 2007 to all the readers of this mailing list. May the new year be better than the old one. Mike

[Repeater-Builder] OT - anybody know someone in Texas DPS?

2007-01-01 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
With over 3,000 readers of this mailing list I'm hoping that someone knows somebody in the Texas DPS (highway patrol) radio shop. One of the folks that has donated info to the r-b web site has come across a Bendix King EPH-5991K handheld. This is one of the specialty radios that BK made for a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: wide band to cross band on narrow band

2007-01-01 Thread johnkihl
These are both repeaters, but we are looking at the one wideband machine as having 155.160 only, they are both next to each other. What you describe is a sort of bridge circuit. Could you describe as to how you would accomplish this bridge circuit? 73 John kb3nqs --- In

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: dB-224

2007-01-01 Thread Fred Flowers
Thanks Skipp, however I only found info about 408 411. I don't think I missed anything, I looked over the index 3 or 4 times. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:42 PM To:

[Repeater-Builder] Need Help... where can I buy a DSL-Internet repeater...?

2007-01-01 Thread Bill
I live in a remote area, where I can receive DSL service in my office via phone company, but not in my home (which is about 2 miles away). Is there something I can buy to send DSL wireless signal to my house?? Thanks, Bill in Mexico

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Welcome to 2007...

2007-01-01 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Jan 01 03:07 -0600]: Happy 2007 to all the readers of this mailing list. May the new year be better than the old one. Yeah, I started it off right. Last night I was changing the ID on my CAT-200B and mis-punched a key. Now all I get is a loud

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Help... where can I buy a DSL-Internet repeater...?

2007-01-01 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Jan 01 05:53 -0600]: I live in a remote area, where I can receive DSL service in my office via phone company, but not in my home (which is about 2 miles away). Is there something I can buy to send DSL wireless signal to my house?? Thanks, Bill in Mexico

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Help... where can I buy a DSL-Internet repeater...?

2007-01-01 Thread Neal Newman
Sure BE( broadcast Electronics) makes a 5 gig Bi directional studio transmitter link. I just got one to use on a 8 mile path however it cost $18k.. good thing it was a loaner. It going back in a few weeks. Bill wrote: I live in a remote area, where I can receive DSL service in my

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Help... where can I buy a DSL-Internet repeater...?

2007-01-01 Thread Mathew Quaife
Look at the Trazeo CPE200 series radios, they are good for about 5 miles, you would need two of them and a router. Mathew Neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure BE( broadcast Electronics) makes a 5 gig Bi directional studio transmitter link. I just got one to use on a 8

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Help... where can I buy a DSL-Internet repeater...?

2007-01-01 Thread Kevin Custer
Bill, You can send your DSL service wirelessly to your home a number of ways. 802.11B (2.4 GHz) is the cheapest, but requires a good near line of site path. We started using some new 900 cards that seem to work really well in non line-of-site applications. Scott and I have a 900 path that

[Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread n9lv
Hope someone can help shed some light here. I ordered xtals from Bomar (3 week wait) for the GE EXEC II mobile radios, 6 for RX for 144.810 and one RX of 434.875, all high side injection. None of them are working at all. At the same time I ordered tx xtals for the same radio, they all work

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Help... where can I buy a DSL-Internet repeater...?

2007-01-01 Thread Roger White
Kevin, good post and something I have not thought of. Roger W5RD - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Help... where can I buy a DSL-Internet repeater...?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Help... where can I buy a DSL-Internet repeater...?

2007-01-01 Thread Dexter McIntyre W4DEX
The best 802.11 units for the money I found are the Senao NL-2611CB3 radios. They run 200mw and there is also a 400mw version. Also the receivers in these units are better than most low end radios. I have a 2.5 mile non line of site path working with these units for two years now with no

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Help... where can I buy a DSL-Internet repeater...?

2007-01-01 Thread Roger White
Dex, that is the path length that just came to mind for my use after I read Kevin's post. Roger W5RD - Original Message - From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Help...

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Help... where can I buy a DSL-Internetrepeater...?

2007-01-01 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I know a ham that did just this, but it took an intermediate location to make his path happen. He said it works great. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Roger White To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Here's what you need to do the calculations. Let us know what you find. http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/ge-crystal-info.pdf Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: n9lv [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 10:40 AM Subject:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Chuck Kelsey
If my hasty math is correct: 144.81 low side = 14.84 144.81 high side = 17.33 434.875 low side = 16.39537 434.875 high side = 16.521296 Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: n9lv [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 10:40 AM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Mathew Quaife
Thanks Chuck, that is what they sent me, so your math is just fine. Then there must be something I am missing. I can take one of the old xtals and they work out just fine, so I know the receivers are working. Might I ask what the formula you used was? It's been a long time since I have

[Repeater-Builder] Re: dB-224

2007-01-01 Thread skipp025
I've got to lay off that darn Single Malt... You are right! But I did make the drawings for the 224 and it would not be a big deal to rescan them if I had a senior moment and thought I did the scans with the rest of the db antennas. Or it could just be missing from the web page group and in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Chuck Kelsey
My math was TOO hasty. 434.875 low side = 15.691666, not what I originally said. Chuck - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Chuck Kelsey
For high side, high band -- F+11.2/9 For high side, UHF -- F+11.2/27 Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Mathew Quaife To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not

[Repeater-Builder] Ignore - TEST

2007-01-01 Thread Steve Smith
I posted and item last night and it didn't appear. I'm just trying to see if I've got a problem.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: wide band to cross band on narrow band

2007-01-01 Thread skipp025
I replied direct... but here's the basic thought behind a dual band-width repeater. I would assume you are using ctcss... or should be. Here's an example: Program a newer wide narrow mode radio to receive only scan 4-number of channels/frequencies with ctcss decode each. Frequency A:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Mathew Quaife
Thanks Chuck, found them in the list that was referenced. So these are correct, why do they not work? Anyone with any good ideas? Mathew Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For high side, high band -- F+11.2/9 For high side, UHF -- F+11.2/27 Chuck WB2EDV

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Chuck Kelsey
You did re-tune the oscillator section, didn't you? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Mathew Quaife To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need Help... where can I buy a DSL-Internet repeater...?

2007-01-01 Thread bsbbsoutlaw
If it's line of site, you can probably get away with a good wireless system. Years ago we were using Breezcom(?) radios with directional antennas to get T-1 speeds three miles away. This was in 1999 but the technology is not only still out there, it's better. I wish I could tell you what

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bomar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Eric Lemmon
Mathew, Did you order just bare crystals to put in some existing channel elements, or did you send the elements to Bomar and have them compensated with the new crystals? That may be part of the problem, but usually the lack of compensation doesn't prevent the crystal from operating- it just

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bomar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Mathew Quaife
I ordered just the xtals from them. One the UHF version, the crystals that I had tuned them up are at 434.850, was neither high or low side injection. The xtal that I put in this radio is at 434.875 Mhz with a high side injection. Could it be that far off. Mathew Eric Lemmon

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Mathew Quaife
Ok, gonna sound stupid here. The xtal that originally came with the unit was set for normal frequency range. Does everything have to be redone when you go with a high side xtal? At this point it will not receive even with a 5 watt ht next to it, aside the 0 dBm my service monitor gives it.

[Repeater-Builder] Bomar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Eric Lemmon
Yes, you must re-tune the oscillator by the book (LBI, actually) when you change frequencies. One of the easiest ways to check for oscillation and adjust the channel frequency is to set your service monitor to receive the local oscillator frequency. Place the monitor's pickup antenna close to

[Repeater-Builder] RE: Bomar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Eric Lemmon
Yes, it is a sensitive adjustment. How can an LO crystal not be either high or low side injection? When you order a receive crystal for a Mastr II or Exec II radio, you must state whether it will be used for high or low side injection. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Re tune the oscillator/multiplier. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Mathew Quaife To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Paul Guello
Take a look at the spec sheet for the elements. The mastr ii exec elements have selected capacitors for different frequencies. If the new frequency is enough of a change from the old frequency you will need to change them. Paul kb9wlc --- Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Chuck,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Bomar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
Curious as to what is different in the crystal when it is cut for low side vs high side. de WD7F John in Tucson - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 10:55 AM Subject:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread mch
That's because the radio has a very tight front end on it. You have to retune the helicals. Nothing special has to be done with the high side injection - just the same retuning. Joe M. Mathew Quaife wrote: Ok, gonna sound stupid here. The xtal that originally came with the unit was set for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Bomar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread mch
Just the frequency. That's the only difference. Look at the crystal formulas - one is +LO and the other is -LO. So, the LO will be running above or below the actual receive frequency. Joe M. WD7F - John in Tucson wrote: Curious as to what is different in the crystal when it is cut for low

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Bomar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Chuck Kelsey
It is simply cut to a different frequency. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: WD7F - John in Tucson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Bomar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Mathew Quaife
From what I read, the elements are all the same, and should work with any of the bands. I don't see any difference in them, from the uhf to the vhf. Mathew Paul Guello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look at the spec sheet for the elements. The mastr ii exec elements have

Re: [Repeater-Builder] What Can Go Wrong With A Bird 43?

2007-01-01 Thread Dave Baughn
Check the connections on the back of the meter. I have seen these get oxidized and quit working. If the wires have crimped spade lugs, solder them. Good luck. Dave BaughnDirector of EngineeringThe University of AlabamaCenter for Public Television and RadioWVUA/WUOA-TV WUAL/ WQPR/ WAPR

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Mathew Quaife
When retuning the receiver, and having my volt probe on pin 7, I get no readings when I adjust c307 or c306. When mentioned to move the oscillator, this I assumed is retuning of the complete receiver. Mathew mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's because the radio has a very

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Bomar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
I misunderstood. If I order a crystal at a particular frequency for low side, it's obvious that it would be different for a high side receiver. I thought you were implying that there was some nuance between using one for upper vs lower and as an Inquiring Mind I wanted to know. de WD7F John

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Bomar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Eric Lemmon
John, That is a good question, and the answer is at the heart of the issue facing the poster. Using LBI-30057 as the source of information for a high-band VHF Exec II Oscillator-Multiplier, we find that the normal situation uses low-side injection and has an IF frequency of 11.2 MHz. The LO

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Solar Powered Mitrek repeater help

2007-01-01 Thread Kevin Custer
Hello Kevin, I've tried twice to post the message below on the Rebeater-Builder group and failed. I sent a test message and it posted fine. Where am I going wrong on the one below??? If you see nothing wron with it would you try posting it. Thanks, -Steve - Original Message -

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Solar Powered Mitrek repeater help

2007-01-01 Thread skipp025
I've tried twice to post the message below on the Rebeater-Builder group and failed. The Re-beater group continues until moral improves? sorry, I couldn't resist... s.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Bomar Crystals Ordered, Figured it out

2007-01-01 Thread Mathew Quaife
Well I came to the conclusion that the 440 receiver would not go high enough to make it to the high side of the xtal, so I went back to work on the 144.810 receivers, and boom, came to life. The xtals are good. The low cut xtal would work, but the high side won't on the UHF. Thanks for

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Solar Powered Mitrek repeater help

2007-01-01 Thread Eric Lemmon
Craig, My gut feeling is that your solar repeater is woefully under-powered. While I hold no malice against home-made power controllers, my own and somewhat limited experience leads me to put my trust in commercial, microprocessor-based solar charge controllers. I am currently (ouch- no pun

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Bomar Crystals Ordered, Figured it out

2007-01-01 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Which split UHF radio are you using? If you are using the low-split radio, maybe you can't use high-side injection. I've never used a low split unit before -- always used an 88. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Mathew Quaife To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

[Repeater-Builder] Microprocessor/ EEPROM Programmer Question

2007-01-01 Thread dgrapach
I am looking for an inexpensive programmer to program PICs for a repeater controller. I would also like to program EEPROM's occasionally. I found an universal programmer on Ebay called TOP2004 made by ColdFusionX that is powered from an USB port. It claims to program PIC's, AVR's, and most

[Repeater-Builder] RE: Bomar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles

2007-01-01 Thread Eric Lemmon
Mathew, Please advise what numbers are stamped on the crystal that works, and also the numbers that are stamped on the crystal that does not work. It may be that Bomar assumed you wanted a high-side injection, when a low-side injection was needed, or vice-versa. The numbers stamped on the

[Repeater-Builder] Question re: Crystal Ordering for UHF MICOR Receiver

2007-01-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've been following the recent thread about using high-side injection crystals in the GE Receivers. I've tried that on both VHF and UHF MASTR II, MVP, EXEC II, etc., and that always worked out well. I have several 2-Meter and UHF Motorola MICOR Repeaters locally, and they've been in operation

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Welcome to 2007...

2007-01-01 Thread w5zit
Nate, I was putting in some new speed dials for the autopatch on a CAT-300 a few years ago and had a similar experience. The only solution I found was to go switch the controller into the initialization mode and start all over with the programming. We had a nearby lightning strike that did not

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Help... where can I buy a DSL-Internet repeater...?

2007-01-01 Thread K6PNG
Bill, here is a link that explains how i solved the same problem with the exception that mine is a distance of 12 miles. my link has been in operation for over 4 years now. In the beginning i was only able to get about 80Kb of throughput now i have it doing over 4.5Mb throughput.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Microprocessor/ EEPROM Programmer Question

2007-01-01 Thread Jack Taylor
I don't have experience with the TOP2004, but did order a Genius NSP serial port programmer off Ebay about a year ago. When received, I found the manual to be next to useless and the seller subsequently disappeared. Although the menu indicated it would handle a number of file formats, I was

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Question re: Crystal Ordering for UHF MICOR Receiver

2007-01-01 Thread Eric Lemmon
Larry, I don't think the diode polarity matters, unless you are using channel elements with built-in AFC controls. I've converted a few high-band VHF MICORs without touching the diodes, and they work just fine. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Bomar Crystals Ordered, Figured it out

2007-01-01 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and boom, came to life. WHAT went boom? What exactly did you do that got your receivers working? Laryn K8TVZ

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Question re: Crystal Ordering for UHF MICOR Receiver

2007-01-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK thanks - I'm trusting then also that I can do the same on UHF, order high-side injection crystals for my KXN1024A UHF Receiver channel element and leave the discriminator diodes as they are. Thanks again, Larry -Original Message- From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 1,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need Help... where can I buy a DSL-Internet repeater...?

2007-01-01 Thread Ryan
There is always www.wildblue.com if you want wireless internet. ryan n3ssl --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, K6PNG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, here is a link that explains how i solved the same problem with the exception that mine is a distance of 12 miles. my link has been in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Microprocessor/ EEPROM Programmer Question

2007-01-01 Thread Mike Reed
I have here a TOP 2005 programmer here that seems to work ok, at least on the EPROMS I have done. I'm no programmer, just trial and error kind of guy. I would think that possibly the Willenhelm (sp) type would work better. They have a version that only used the USB for power, or you can put an

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Welcome to 2007...

2007-01-01 Thread Nate Bargmann
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Jan 01 19:23 -0600]: Nate, I was putting in some new speed dials for the autopatch on a CAT-300 a few years ago and had a similar experience. The only solution I found was to go switch the controller into the initialization mode and start all over

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bomar Crystals Ordered, Figured it out

2007-01-01 Thread Mathew Quaife
My first attempt, since I had the vhf/uhf radio on the bench already, I put the xtal in the 144.810 rx side of the radio, it did not work, I would have thought it should have at least received, even though I would have to retune the radio. I put a second xtal in, and got the same results.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Bomar Crystals Ordered, Figured it out

2007-01-01 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My first attempt, since I had the vhf/uhf radio on the bench already, I put the xtal in the 144.810 rx side of the radio, it did not work, I would have thought it should have at least received, even though I would