[Repeater-Builder] Re: Link-Com RLC-4 question.

2008-01-06 Thread John Everson
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, k6jsi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, Command 047 simply enables/disables an event trigger. You had to enter the event trigger as 'eee' to make command 047 do something. You might want to run command 045 and then the 'eee' you entered in your

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micor Vibraspondor TLN8381A 2Z 110.9 Hz

2008-01-06 Thread swellesleys
We are looking for a Motorola Micor Vibraspondor TLN8381A 2Z 110.9 Hz for use with our local repeater - K8VJ/R. Please email me if you have one you would like to sell. TNX Steve N8AR

[Repeater-Builder] GM 300 tone scan repeater

2008-01-06 Thread Rocky Christie
I have 2 gm300 units. I want to program 3 ctcss tones on 3 channels. Is there a way that I can get the Tx gm300 to follow the Rx gm300 in scan mode?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM 300 tone scan repeater

2008-01-06 Thread Gareth Bennett
As far as I'm aware, the easiest solution would probably be to add a third party tone panel such as a TP154 etc etc, programme to what tones that you want and re-insert into the TX GM300. Since you already have audio processing, the tone panel could be installed Parallel and be only responsible

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Dan Hancock
It was my undeerstanding that all digital TV would be on UHF, no VHF and that the VHF spectrum would be re-allocated. Am I in error? Dan N8DJP --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else here seen the bull put out by NTIA on

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola mobile radio timeline

2008-01-06 Thread Bob M.
Does anyone know of a radio timeline or a list of all the mobile radios and when they roughly came out? Since most of the great radios are now MD, there's no need for an end-of-life date. I can make a guess at some models, but there are so many that I've heard of but never seen. This is just the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM 300 tone scan repeater

2008-01-06 Thread Rocky Christie
The thing is I was trying to do something without the tone panel. I have a repeater with 2 users and 1 with 3 users. I want to save the tone panels for the repeaters with 10 and more users. Panels are not so easy to come by over here. I had it in mind to have the Rx GM300 scan and ask for some

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Kevin Custer
MCH wrote: will free up airwaves for use by emergency responders.??? The TV spectrum is being freed up by ANALOG stations and the SAME SPECTRUM will be reused by DIGITAL stations. The only spectrum being freed up by TV for PS use is on the 764 MHz + band. (two TV channels, I believe) and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Paul N1BUG
While it was told that ALL VHF television would move to UHF, I don't believe that is going to be reality. I could be wrong, however My local channel 12 is moving to channel 9 with the digital transition... 73, Paul N1BUG

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
All of the Buffalo, Erie, Toronto and Rochester TV stations have gone to UHF. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Dan Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 6:50 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread John J. Riddell
Chuck, No they have not switched to UHFdunno where you got that info? I use an antenna here and still receive all of the VHF stations in Toronto and Buffalo. Erie is a problem for us with a high power channel 13 station in this area so Ch 12 is unwatchable. 73 John VE3AMZ Waterloo Ontario

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread w7hsg
Reality Channels 2-13 will mostly be vacant. There are a small number of stations that will revert back to their hi VHF channel after Feb 17. Hi VHF channels 7-13. Here in Tucson only one station will revert back to their original channel. KGUN on 9. Other VHF stations in Tucson, 4,6,11 13

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I jumped the gun. The are going to UHF if they are not already there now. I am watching ALL of the Buffalo stations on UHF right now. I realize that the VHF transmitters are still operating. Chuck - Original Message - From: John J. Riddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Take a look here: http://www.remotecentral.com/hdtv/ Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: John J. Riddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread no6b
At 1/6/2008 09:10, you wrote: Broadcasters are really wanting this mess to be over. My former station, KVOA is spending more than twice as much on elect, cooling etc running two transmitters. One on 4 and one on 23. The stations all want to stop the bleeding of money. I thought that the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread no6b
At 1/5/2008 22:02, you wrote: Has anyone else here seen the bull put out by NTIA on https://www.dtv2009.gov/FAQ.aspxhttps://www.dtv2009.gov/FAQ.aspx = 1. What is the digital television transition? An analog allocation is 6 MHz. A digital

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIApropaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
To each their own. I just dumped cable and went back to an antenna. It was time to replace our most-watched TV anyway. I don't think OTA will decrease, I think the opposite will happen. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread JOHN MACKEY
That is not correct. There will be some DTV on VHF. -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:50:21 AM CST From: Dan Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda It was

[Repeater-Builder] Re: (scanning repeater receivers) Linking two shared repeaters

2008-01-06 Thread Jeff Kincaid
Yep. Still have those rocks in my CHPTran. Jeff W6JK --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone remember the 52.525 output and 52.76 input pair?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread JOHN MACKEY
-- Original Message -- An analog (TV) allocation is 6 MHz. A digital allocation is 6 MHz. How is digital saving spectrum? Because digital TV broadcasting can cram multiple viewing channels in that same 6 MHZ spectrum.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola mobile radio timeline

2008-01-06 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I still have a 41GGB in service and at T41GGT ready and available for service!! -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:00:16 AM CST From: Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] SNIP get it put up on the repeater-builder web site. I know there are plenty of people out there who remember

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread MCH
There is a DTV allocation in Harrisburg, PA for channel 2. Originally, they were all going to be on UHF, but that changed. Joe M. Dan Hancock wrote: It was my undeerstanding that all digital TV would be on UHF, no VHF and that the VHF spectrum would be re-allocated. Am I in error? Dan

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread MCH
Yes, PGH is all UHF. As I mentioned, look at Harrisburg's DTV allocations. They have one on Channel 2. (I pity their 6M activities as much as I rejoice PGH's channel 2 going away) Joe M. Kevin Custer wrote: MCH wrote: will free up airwaves for use by emergency responders.??? The TV

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread MCH
I have yet to see any station share their DTV channel with another station. (which would save spectrum) So, there may be more content, but station WXYZ will still use the full 6 MHz. If my local area is any indication, they will simply add channels such as full time traffic and WX. (like you need

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Some have here, but I do not know if there exists any financial interest between the two stations. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but

[Repeater-Builder] Repeater TX/RX Problems

2008-01-06 Thread ntoda96818
Hi... currently I am running a Radius M120 RX and CDM1250 TX in my repeater unit. I was wondering what I could do to increase my repeater's RX range. It seems that my portables talking to the repeater will RX on their end further then they can TX to the repeater. Is this a norm or do I need to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread no6b
It would be interesting to know if the analog TV shutdown is going to occur in CA MX. If not, we might see a number of new analog stations across the border. The Fox affiliate in San Diego is XETV ch. 6, might end up being the only major analog TV station remaining after Feb. '09

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Digital is happening in Canada, just not at the same time as in the USA. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Here's lots more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_television Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Richard
I can't picture that ever happening; I understand it will allow each station to broadcast multiple programs, should they choose to. Richard http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MCH Sent: Sunday, January

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I know a guy on the engineering staff for XETV. Want me to ask him? -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:00:20 PM CST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Ray Brown
- Original Message - From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have yet to see any station share their DTV channel with another station. (which would save spectrum) I was looking at my local area, and there's at least one example... in Springfield, MO, new DTV 44-1 will be the NBC affiliate,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread George Csahanin
You may be surprised. Mexico is going DTV as well. I just lost a translator allocation in New MExico because it was close spaced to a Juarez DTV station. GeorgeC --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be interesting to know if the analog TV shutdown is

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread George Csahanin
I can only speak for WIVB and WNLO there, but as far as I know all of the Buffalo stations were alocated UHF digital channels, and all have elected to stay on UHF. The decision to stay UHF, go VHF, etc depended a whole lot on the end result, ERP, propagation, and received interference all get

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Ben
Here is a good list of what the channels will be like when the analog shuts off: http://www.w9wi.com/dtvch/dtvch.html Many are going back to their original VHF channel. Here in Bowling Green, KY it looks like channel 13 will turn off their digital that is on 33 now and stay on the old analog

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 5973

2008-01-06 Thread tony dinkel
Same here. But I have no control head for the motran because I sold it on ebay for over 500 bucks to some nutball building himself a vintage a police car. Anybody want the motran? Free to first person at the gate in La Mirada, CA Note, it has early Cal Crystal Labs xtals in the radio so who

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Jack Taylor
Far as I'm concerned there's no need to jam the airways with mind-numbing content from every hamlet. A few regional advertising supported Ku band satellite channels should suffice. This would free up a LOT of spectrum. 73 de Jack - N7OO - Original Message - From: Ben To:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater TX/RX Problems

2008-01-06 Thread Eric Lemmon
You are experiencing a very common problem- a repeater that is unbalanced, meaning that its mouth is far more effective than its ears. A repeater's coverage area is primarily determined by how well it receives stations in the field, not by how much transmitter power it has. Maybe that sentence

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM 300 tone scan repeater

2008-01-06 Thread Charles Schmell
My only thought would be program the 3 rx freq. and tones, and the scan list, with priority if needed. Program NO TX pl and switch JU 551 (Flat RX unmuted) inside the receive radio, so it passes the pl, hopefully through your controller. Any IDs would not have a PL, though. Charles, KS3Z ---

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Jim Hartzell
Look on the FCC web site, link below. Scroll down to: 8/6/07 FCC Announces Final Assignment of Digital Television Channels. Then look at appendix b g to see the final assignments. In the Pittsburgh area chan 13 will revert to 13 and chan 19 (currently sharing chan 8s digital) will change to 11.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread MCH
Many of my local channels are using tags that have the ANALOG channel name. For example, while KDKA TV-2 DTV is on channel 25, the tag is 2-1 which is what you enter to see that channel. Either they are going to move back to channel 2 or things are going to get even more confusing if you have a

[Repeater-Builder] New DB-224 w/water cooled phasing harness???

2008-01-06 Thread kc4wdi
We have installed several new db-224 recently. This particular antenna was inverted and has been in service less than 6 months. While doing a routine test, I noticed the ref. power was a little high. The longer the TX was up, the lower the ref. power got; which typically indicates water in a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New DB-224 w/water cooled phasing harness???

2008-01-06 Thread Steve Allred
YES! Recently replaced a new DB-224 that had wicked water in the molded harness section and ended up inside the connector. Upon receiving a replacement antenna, we sealed the heck out of the harness with vapor wrap before installation. This one seems to be holding up for now, for now knock on

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread sgreact47
In Los Angeles TV stations: CBS moves from 2 to 43 NBC moves from 4 to 36 KTLA moves from 5 to 31 This sholud make the SIX Meter boys, girls happy for a while.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New DB-224 w/water cooled phasing harness???

2008-01-06 Thread Jim Brown
I had a DB-224 that had been up for 20+ years and found the same thing. It was not upside down but one of the coax center conductors had disentegrated inside one of those moulded junctions. I cut it open and there was nothing left of the center conductor. It is still in service with the top

RE: [Repeater-Builder] New DB-224 w/water cooled phasing harness???

2008-01-06 Thread Keith McQueen
Condensation? Keith McQueen 801-224-9460 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kc4wdi Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 6:22 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] New DB-224

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread w7hsg
Stations want to identify by their old channel #. They have spent years telling you to tune to Channel 4 or what ever. The computer in your television set reading the digital code from the stations will take the channel 4 information and translate it to the correct UHF channel such as in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread MCH
Along those lines... If they are broadcasting one HDTV channel, can they have only two other SD channels? The translation doesn't do any good since you need to know the real channel number before you can see their 'alias'. But, as I said - confusion since Channel 2 is transmitting on Channel 25.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] New DB-224 w/water cooled phasing harness???

2008-01-06 Thread Paul Finch
By the way, you still must seal the connectors with a good tape like Scotch 33 first, then coat at least two coats with Scotchkoat. Sorry for the 2nd email, just wanted to clarify. Paul _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
There was a discussion on this topic a few weekends at the local ham club after-meeting all those that don't have to be awake at zero-too-early in the morning to go to work wander over to a local 24 hour coffee shop and discuss all kinds of technical topics. One comment was that US

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 10 meter split site

2008-01-06 Thread Paul Plack
Greg, antennas affect transmit and receive equally, so the user's poor antenna, or the repeater's good one, has no real bearing on alligator/elephant effect. Achieving balance in a system requires accounting for the noise environment, and the mobile is likely to have much more noise than the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] New DB-224 w/water cooled phasing harness???

2008-01-06 Thread Paul Finch
Hello All, From what I have seen the quality is the same but I have been preaching on this board and others you can’t install a DB antenna without sealing every screw, bolt, plastic knot, connector and anything else that could leak water. Besides that you must take all connections to the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Nope. The TV will search available channels and do all the work for you. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Hap Griffin
Not really...you can have the tuner do a scan of the available channels and then they will show up as the virtual major channel...the same as the associated analog channel...along with the minor channel multicast indicators. Hap Griffin WZ4O - Original Message - From: MCH To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Hap Griffin
However, in their infinite wisdom the FCC has made it MANDATORY that stations identify themselves in the PSIP (what you see on your digital tuner) with their ANALOG channel number. I'm Chief Engineer for a network of eleven stations and we have two that have the analog and digital transmitters

[Repeater-Builder] Cushman Plug In's

2008-01-06 Thread wa5luy
I have the following spare Cushman plug in front ends for CE5, CE6 etc. for sale if any body is interested before I put them on Ebay. Contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 306A 450-520Mhz 305B 140-175Mhz With Manual 304 25-50 Mhz 303 Broad Band Mixer With Manual

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread mung
I don't know what is going on where you are but here in florida I hit 2-1 on the remote and get what is on analog 2 but in digital. I hit 2-2 and get the NBC local weather. I don't know what all of the stress is over this. I think digital tv is great and this should have been done a long

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread kf0m
I have talked with the local Ch 12 Engr here they plan to stay on VHF when they go all digital. From what he said, I believe most or all of the local VHF stations plan to go back to their VHF channel. His reasoning was simple, they get much better coverage for the same power level on VHF

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New DB-224 w/water cooled phasing harness???

2008-01-06 Thread Paul Guello
If by inverted you mean the antenna is mounted upside down then the drain holes for condensation are pointing up instead of down. And the water trapped inside would not be able to drain out. Paul kc4wdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have installed several new

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
The numbering of the digital channels is to help the people that know nothing of TV past turning it on and changing channels. The station that I work for is channel 4. Our digital transmitter is on channel 34, but, the viewers know it is 4-1. That way they do not get lost in the channels. I do

[Repeater-Builder] Change of scenery

2008-01-06 Thread wd8chl
Just thought I'd mention here that I have left TransCore, and have accepted a position with American Messaging paging. I will be responsible for maintaining infrastructure across NE Ohio, most of W. Virginia, and extreme eastern PA. -- Jim Barbour American Messaging

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Nate Duehr
On Jan 6, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Ray Brown wrote: I was looking at my local area, and there's at least one example... in Springfield, MO, new DTV 44-1 will be the NBC affiliate, while 44-2 will be the CW (and 44-3 will be Weather Now, I guess it's a clone of The Weather Channel?) Our local NBC

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Digest Number 5973

2008-01-06 Thread Jeff Kincaid
So _you're_ the one! That listing generated some discussion in our group, I can tell you. I think there is still a Johnstone Peak machine, but I've forgotten what freq it's on. I bet Mike remembers the old call sign. 'JK --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, tony dinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]