Re: [Repeater-Builder] msf5000 microphone

2009-09-13 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 06:09 PM 09/12/09, you wrote: what microphone will work with msf5000? See http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/msf/msf-index.html and look for the paragraph that starts with The HMN1001B microphone But are you sure you want a microphone? The MSF has no speaker and as such was designed to

[Repeater-Builder] coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread bobeic2
looking for info on which type of coax cable to use for my GMRS repeater ant will be 100 in the air

Re: [Repeater-Builder] msf5000 microphone

2009-09-13 Thread Richard Deering
Mike, please contact me directly at wb9...@sbcglobal.net thanks  Rick/rjb --- On Sun, 9/13/09, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] msf5000 microphone To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, September 13,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread Eric Lemmon
To get the best performance, you should use Andrew LDF5-50 Heliax, which is 7/8 diameter, or larger. Anything smaller will suck up significant power and reduce the amount of incoming signal, leading to poor coverage. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: msf5000 microphone

2009-09-13 Thread gueorgui2
thnaks! since the GM300 works with the MHN1001B does this mean that the MSF5000 will work with the speaker-phone that is originally for the maxTracs? did anybody try this combination --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Richard Deering wb9...@... wrote: Mike, please contact me directly

[Repeater-Builder] Re: msf5000 microphone

2009-09-13 Thread gueorgui2
the microphone-speaker-phone i was referring is HMN3595A --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gueorgui2 gueor...@... wrote: thanks! since the GM300 works with the MHN1001B does this mean that the MSF5000 will work with the speaker-phone that is originally for the maxTracs? did anybody

[Repeater-Builder] Re: msf5000 microphone

2009-09-13 Thread gueorgui2
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gueorgui2 gueor...@... wrote: the microphone-speaker-phone i was referring is HMN3596A --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gueorgui2 gueorgui@ wrote: thanks! since the GM300 works with the MHN1001B does this mean that the MSF5000 will

[Repeater-Builder] Tower Foundations

2009-09-13 Thread rahwayflynn
One of my family members is putting up a tower to support his business radio (farm) , the family GMRS repeater, and a fairly large microwave dish to obtain internet.The choice so far is a Rohn SSV compromised of the following sections: 10NH, 9NH, 8N, 7N, and 6N. Here the question: The

[Repeater-Builder] GE LB VHF RF Amplifier Drive Level? basic specs?

2009-09-13 Thread skipp025
On the way home from yesterdays Lincoln, CA. Ham Swap I noticed a bunch of surplus GE Radio Gear just up and jumped into the back of the truck. Two of the hitch-hiking items were GE VHF RF Amplifiers, looking a lot like a GE Master II Mobile decks factory mounted into a frame used in a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Tower Foundations

2009-09-13 Thread skipp025
Depends on the type of soil you have. Straight Piers are cheap and less cash if you can get the Permit without a soils test. If they ask for a soils test or a Drilled Bell Bottom Pier... I would (as I have many times in the past) change the tower mounting over to a base block, which should not

RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE LB VHF RF Amplifier Drive Level? basic specs?

2009-09-13 Thread Andrew Seybold
Check out http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-master-list.html do a control F and type in the part numbers They sound like typical lower powered amps for base stations (as opposed to continuous duty repeaters. They are designed to mount in a base housing where any of the amps go, they

RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE LB VHF RF Amplifier Drive Level? basic specs?

2009-09-13 Thread Eric Lemmon
Skipp. The 19B219688G6 is a heat sink assembly that is common to four PA assemblies and PA boards: 19C321295G5 and 19D417927G1, for 25-30 MHz 19C321295G6 and 19D417927G2. for 30-36 MHz 19C321295G7 and 19D417927G3. for 36-42 MHz 19C321295G8 and 19D417927G4, for 42-50 MHz The PA is rated at 100

RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE LB VHF RF Amplifier Drive Level? basic specs?

2009-09-13 Thread Eric Lemmon
Skipp, I should have mentioned that the applicable manual is LBI-30294, available in full-page format here: www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-30294b.pdf 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com]

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE LB VHF RF Amplifier Drive Level? basic specs?

2009-09-13 Thread skipp025
Thank you Eric and Andy... Andy, I just learned and realized how the Control F feature works and that will become a huge help in future searching. Man... for never previously having a need to research and source out GE LBI Manuals much I must say the Repeater Builder Web Page GE LBI

[Repeater-Builder] procedure for aligment MSR-2000 VHF continuous duty

2009-09-13 Thread va2rc_2000
Hello to all, we have in Quebec City for our club, a MSR-2000 VHF continuous duty PA. We juste changer the exciter card that was defect. About the aligment of the exciter, does somebody have a good procedure to do it ? Also, i'm using a service monitor to make aligment at the output of the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE LB VHF RF Amplifier Drive Level? basic specs?

2009-09-13 Thread Eric Lemmon
Skipp, You're welcome! If you cannot find any PA assembly or board numbers, you can still ID the board by looking for certain capacitor values that vary among the LL, L, M, and H band splits. It's time-consuming, to be sure, but it will answer the question of which PA split you have. 73, Eric

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE LB VHF RF Amplifier Drive Level? basic specs?

2009-09-13 Thread Andrew Seybold
Skipp-it should work I have tuned several 30-36 MHz split Mastr II's to 29.6 and when connected to the amp, the amp seems to work just fine-full power out-and no excessive spurs-I have had one of the 100 watt continuous duty units in service for a long time. Andy From:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE LB VHF RF Amplifier Drive Level? basic specs?

2009-09-13 Thread Jeff DePolo
I can't find the numbers listed below on the board with the exception of a large 6 etched out of copper on the board. I might now assume the unit is the 30-36 MHz unit mentioned below unless the pc board label is printed somewhere not within obvious view. Skipp, Look over by the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] procedure for aligment MSR-2000 VHF continuous duty

2009-09-13 Thread Eric Lemmon
Francois, The transmitter section of the MSR2000 station can be downloaded here: www.repeater-builder.com/msr2k/vhf-msr2000-transmitter-alignment.pdf A service monitor and a good analog VOM are all you need. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Foundations

2009-09-13 Thread Butch Kanvick
Did you look at the Rohn technical prints to determine the depth of the concrete? I am putting up a Trylon SSV tower and they have the specs on their website if you need another one to compare with. trylon dot com, Self supporting. They had a tapered bottom about 18 tall then the square

[Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread larynl2
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon wb6...@... wrote: To get the best performance, you should use Andrew LDF5-50 Heliax, which is 7/8 diameter, or larger. If I may argue Eric's good advice here, for a 100' or so run, I would not be bothered by using 1/2 Heliax. For less

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread Joe
I would agree on 1/2 being a good alternative. The 1/2 would only require a connector at both ends, eliminating 4 connectors that would be used on the jumpers when using 7/8 line. After eliminating the loss (and potential problems) of the 4 connectors, 1/2 would come close to matching the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread MCH
Hardline/Heliax should *never* be connected directly to an antenna. ALWAYS use a jumper. Joe M. Joe wrote: I would agree on 1/2 being a good alternative. The 1/2 would only require a connector at both ends, eliminating 4 connectors that would be used on the jumpers when using 7/8 line.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread Joe
OK, why? I've had this argument before..Joe MCH wrote: Hardline/Heliax should *never* be connected directly to an antenna. ALWAYS use a jumper. Joe M.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread MCH
To reduce vibrations from the antenna being conducted to the feedline. As it's not flexible, it will crack and/or break. I've also seen cases where the antenna connector was vibrated right out of the antenna. Adding the flexible jumper acts as a 'shock absorber' and absorbs any vibrations.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread Joe
We had thousands of 1/2 hardline jumpers connected to antennas at my last job. It was the standard to use 1/2 LDF4-50A for the jumper. Joe MCH wrote: To reduce vibrations from the antenna being conducted to the feedline. As it's not flexible, it will crack and/or break. I've also seen

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread Larry Wagoner
At 02:36 PM 9/13/2009, you wrote: Hardline/Heliax should *never* be connected directly to an antenna. ALWAYS use a jumper. OK, Joe ... why? Larry Wagoner - N5WLW VP - PRCARC PIC - MS SECT ARRL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread MCH
Key word... ---jumpers--- You didn't have the feedline connected directly to the antenna. Although I have to question the logic in using 1/2 that isn't Superflex for a jumper for the same reasons. Standard hardline doesn't have much absorbing properties compared to Superflex or coax, and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS: ICOM 220 Repeater and Waycom Duplexers - Taking to Findlay

2009-09-13 Thread Mike Dietrich
Shannon, Please contact me off list about this if you do not sell it there. Thanks, Mike KB5FLX - Original Message - From: Shanon KA8SPW To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 6:20 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] FS: ICOM 220 Repeater and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS: ICOM 220 Repeater and Waycom Duplexers - Taking to Findlay

2009-09-13 Thread Mike Dietrich
Shannon, Forgot to include email address in previous..hit send too quick. m.dietr...@peoplepc.com Mike - Original Message - From: Shanon KA8SPW To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 6:20 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] FS: ICOM 220

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE LB VHF RF Amplifier Drive Level? basic specs? [1 Attachment]

2009-09-13 Thread Eric Lemmon
Skipp, I just looked at a spare Mastr Exec II PA, and I can suggest a means to quickly identify which board you have. At each of the four final transistors (4104P1), there are two 39 ohm resistors (orange-white-black-gold) and four resistors that are specific to the bandsplit. The attached

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread Eric Lowell
All due respect, but in nearly 30 years of maintaining paging systems from 40-950 mHz, I've never heard this, or been instructed by an antenna vendor to do so. LDF4-50 jumper from the feedline to the antenna was the standard, purely because we used feedlines of 1 1/4 and 1 5/8 routinely and that

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread Jeff DePolo
1/2 or 3/8 LDF has always been my preference for jumpers, never had a problem related to a connector damage due to lack of flexibility causing over-stress at a connector, either at the antenna or at the main transmission line. Maybe there are some ham-grade antennas where a less-flexible jumper

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread Jeff DePolo
Oh, by the way, forgot to mention, Phelps-Dodge/Celwave used to ship a RG8 jumper with Stationmasters. Some time in the fairly recent past they stopped doing that. I guess they figured everyone was tossing them out anyway... --- Jeff

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread NORM KNAPP
Tel wave includes a RV-213 jumper with their fiberglass antennas. We are not impressed. We toss them and either connect the feed line straight to the antenna if it is LDF4-50A or use a LDF4-50A jumper. We have had no problems with the connectors yet. - Original Message - From:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread Joe
I have a collection of 18 RG-8A/U jumpers that Celwave shipped with their antennas. They have a rubber boot on them, evidently made to slip up over the antenna connection side? We never used them, used hardline instead. Joe, K1ike NORM KNAPP wrote: Tel wave includes a RV-213 jumper with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Foundations

2009-09-13 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
Ask the consulting engineer if re-bar could be added near the inside perimeter to the cement base to reinforce the foundation. I did this years ago when I installed a Rohn tower in a sand ground circa 1977 in northern Wisconsin. I never had any problems with the base moving around going

[Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread Don Kerouac
In the past 35+ years that I have worked in broadcasting, we have connected Heliax directly to antennas wherever possible. This includes 3/8”, ½”, 7/8”, 1 ¼”, 1 5/8’ (3/8” Heliax is generally used as sampling lines for AM directional arrays). Foam or pressurized air line versions. 1 5/8”, 3

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread men...@pa.net
Most of them ended up on Bird wattmeters. Milt N3LTQ Quoting Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com: Oh, by the way, forgot to mention, Phelps-Dodge/Celwave used to ship a RG8 jumper with Stationmasters. Some time in the fairly recent past they stopped doing that. I guess they figured everyone

Re: [possible spam] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread NORM KNAPP
Too bad they didn't send RG214/U. Why would they send single shielded coax with an antenna that is potentially for a repeater... Now that I think about it, why doesn't andrew or commscope use dual shielded VB cable on the db-224 type antennas? - Original Message - From:

[Repeater-Builder] Re:Diplex antenna installation using coaxial cable for 10M and 6 M

2009-09-13 Thread w6jk
So, what's the SWR on 6M with the 10M parts in place? 'JK --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Steve Peg myto...@... wrote: In looking at the original message in this thread, I have used the absolutely most simple solution that is likely available anywhere. I am using a Syntor X9000

Re: [possible spam] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread no6b
At 9/13/2009 20:07, you wrote: Too bad they didn't send RG214/U. Why would they send single shielded coax with an antenna that is potentially for a repeater... The amount of shielding makes no difference when used at the antenna end. What matters is the composition. Any braided coax other

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread no6b
At 9/13/2009 12:29, you wrote: I would agree on 1/2 being a good alternative. The 1/2 would only require a connector at both ends, eliminating 4 connectors that would be used on the jumpers when using 7/8 line. After eliminating the loss (and potential problems) of the 4 connectors, 1/2 would

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE LB VHF RF Amplifier Drive Level? basic specs?

2009-09-13 Thread skipp025
A big thank you Eric... it appears someone gave me two 30-36 MHz amplifiers, which can be used for a future project or two. The 47 MHz Master II Base Station thrown in the mix also works... so there are lots of things to play with when winter comes. and thank you to everyone else who

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax cable

2009-09-13 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
We're comparing apples and oranges here. You've talked about 1 5/8, 3 1/8 4 1/8 Heliax usually employs EIA Flange connectors although 1 5/8 is widely used with D connector terminations in relatively low power modes. We don't usually do that here in amateur communications. I've worked as a