[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor ?

2010-04-20 Thread n3ssl
Hi Kevin and group, I get PTT on pin 9 and 10. before i replace parts the manual says about Q8 and a CR5 as problems any thoughts ? Ryan n3ssl --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Custer kug...@... wrote: n3ssl wrote: Hi Group, I have a Vhf Micor unified station that was

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-20 Thread Jeff DePolo
I have 2 C-Series bandpass cavities, with individual I.L. set at 1.0 db each. When I couple them together and measure, I get a total I.L. of 2.9 db. I should see something like 2.1 or 2.2. I have measured the coupling cable and see .1 db, so the cable is good. Anyone have an idea why the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-20 Thread Larry Horlick
The cavities were initially tuned individually and the loop positions set for 1 db IL. They were then coupled together using a 18.5 cable and the rods touched up to re-establish resonance. The measured IL is now 2.9. The loop positions were not changed after coupling. When using the RL bridge I do

RE: [Repeater-Builder] question for Group on Mastr III

2010-04-20 Thread Doug Bade
Any preamp like advanced receiver research would be suitable assuming one was needed. I have never seen a Mastr III that needs a preamp. unless maybe a tower top amp to recover feedline loss.. The front end has an awful low noise figure to start with.. Doug KD8B From:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-20 Thread Jeff DePolo
The cavities were initially tuned individually and the loop positions set for 1 db IL. They were then coupled together using a 18.5 cable and the rods touched up to re-establish resonance. If the cavities had good return loss individually, there shouldn't be a need to touch up the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-20 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Looks to me like there is an incorrect interconnect cable length. If you are intending to tune both to the same frequency, you should see a single response, not two. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Larry Horlick To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-20 Thread Larry Horlick
But were the loops adjusted to maximize return loss at the desired inseretion loss setting? That's the key point. Or did you just dial in 1 dB of insertion loss and call it good? Not sure what u mean??

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-20 Thread Jeff DePolo
What process did you go through when setting the insertion loss to the 1 dB you were targetting? Did you optimize the coupling angle of the loops for maximum return loss at (or near) the desired 1 dB of insertion loss? --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message-

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-20 Thread Larry Horlick
I adjusted the loop positions, trying to maintain symmetry of the curve, aiming for 1 db on the analyzer. I didn't adjust the loops while looking at the RL. How would I translate RL into IL? On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com wrote: What process did you go through

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-20 Thread Jeff DePolo
I adjusted the loop positions, trying to maintain symmetry of the curve, aiming for 1 db on the analyzer. I didn't adjust the loops while looking at the RL. How would I translate RL into IL? You can't directly translate from RL to IL or vice-versa. Here's how to tune a pass cavity: 1.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-20 Thread Larry Horlick
Jeff, Thanks for the detailed instructions. I understand everything, but I'm confused about one detail. Using this method will produce the largest RL and consequently the lowest IL. But I don't want the lowest IL; I want a specific value, i.e. 1 db per cavity. How do I use RLB to set a specific

[Repeater-Builder] Little duplexeur Sinclair SD-220

2010-04-20 Thread ve2ckn
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-20 Thread Jeff DePolo
Thanks for the detailed instructions. I understand everything, but I'm confused about one detail. Using this method will produce the largest RL and consequently the lowest IL. Well, sort of. You want the most return loss AT THE DESIRED INSERTION LOSS. Maximizing return doesn't mean you

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-20 Thread Larry Horlick
Jeff, But for the purpose of this exercise, setting the loops, the position of max RL has to be the position of min. IL? No? Is my thinking completely flawed here? I've never used an RLB to set the loops; I've always used an SA/TG. I also have several different tutorials on cavity tuning, but

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor ?

2010-04-20 Thread Kevin Custer
Ryan, A, Your problem is likely not the Station Control Module. I'm just guessing, but I'd say JU401 needs installed on the exciter. This circuit is sort-of a loop back - meaning PTT cannot occur on the exciter unless Keyed A+ is delivered to the exciter, and brought back to the SCM,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-20 Thread Jeff DePolo
Jeff, But for the purpose of this exercise, setting the loops, the position of max RL has to be the position of min. IL? No? That's what I said in #7. After you've tuned the cavity to resonance based on RL, you check the IL. The frequency of the RL maxima (dip) should coincide with the