Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-22 Thread Mike Naruta AA8K
I put two 120 volt fans in series in one cabinet. Nice and quiet with a gentle air flow. John J. Riddell wrote: Kevin, another method of slowing down an AC fan is to put a capacitor in series with the AC leads as a voltage dropping element. * A local Ham played with this idea many

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-22 Thread Eric Lemmon
: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:38 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit Maybe it's just me, but I've never understood the need for a special circuit to run cooling fans. I run my fans from the PTT line using a relay. I have also used a simple

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-22 Thread Eric Lemmon
, December 21, 2008 9:38 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit Maybe it's just me, but I've never understood the need for a special circuit to run cooling fans. I run my fans from the PTT line using a relay. I have also used a simple chassis

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-22 Thread Thomas Oliver
Perfect Joe, just what I have been looking for. tom [Original Message] From: Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: 12/21/2008 10:05:17 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit This is a simple timer that I used on my 222 repeater. When

[Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-21 Thread skipp025
Re: fan timer circuit I've seen a number of fan delay, time on, time off circuits posted on web. The neat'o web page url I just posted here on the group has one and it might be the one you're looking for. http://www.w1ghz.org/small_proj/small_proj.htm and the fan controller

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
- Original Message - From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit Re: fan timer circuit I've seen a number of fan delay, time on, time off circuits posted on web

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-21 Thread no6b
At 12/21/2008 09:24, you wrote: Some of our local start-up radio clubs throwing repeater packages in place often start out using and stay with an external RF amplifier designed for mobile operation. Sometimes the amp runs so hot you can't keep your hand on the heat sink but I've yet to see one

[Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-21 Thread wb6fly
- From: skipp025 skipp...@... To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit Re: fan timer circuit I've seen a number of fan delay, time on, time off circuits posted on web. The neat'o web page url I just

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
: wb6fly wb6...@verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit I mostly agree. My thinking is that a fan that runs continuously wastes power and draws dust and dirt into the equipment. I also believe

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-21 Thread Mike Naruta AA8K
One Summer's day in Los Angeles I had a service call on a microwave repeater (vacuum tube). It was located in a warehouse, near the roof. In the heat I lugged my stuff up the stairs. As I set down the service monitor I leaned my other arm against the cabinet. I jerked it away because it was

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-21 Thread Mike Dietrich
Sounds like the best thing to do is a combination of both the PTT and Thermodisk versions together. That way the fan starts blowing when users start using the repeater. Then the thermodisk takes over after it heats up until all traffic quits and the tx'er cools down. Just my 2c worth. Merry

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-21 Thread no6b
At 12/21/2008 14:01, you wrote: I moved over to utilizing the PTT instead of the thermostat disks after I'd had a few thermostats fail. But I agree with your thinking. My thoughts as well: the thermostat is an elegant solution, but if it fails, your repeater fails in a rather expensive way. One

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-21 Thread Kevin Custer
n...@no6b.com wrote: One reason why I've dismissed using any switching on my 110 V cooling fans let them spin 24/7. I have used 220 V muffin fans on 110 V and they last for years. I put one in service in 1997, and it's still turning. Kevin

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-21 Thread John J. Riddell
to the fan. 73 John VE3AMZ - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit n...@no6b.com wrote: One reason why I've dismissed using any switching

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-21 Thread Burt Lang
One more thing to be careful of when using fans on remote equipment. Make sure there are guards on both sides of the fan. We had a muffin fan on a 100wt 220 amp that failed when a mouse tried to get closer to the warm heatsink. His carcass jammed the fan blades and got dessicated with the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-21 Thread Michael Ryan
m... From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Burt Lang Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 10:39 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit One more thing to be careful of when

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: fan timer circuit

2008-12-21 Thread ka9qjg
a mouse tried to get closer to the warm heatsink. His carcass jammed the fan blades and got dessicated with the heat. Burt Lang VE2BMQ Yes I guess that could Happen , I live in a City and My 6 Month old Fridge quit working , Well of Course bring a Ham Some of us including Me thing We can

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer

2006-04-14 Thread skipp025
So how much are they charging for the timer board? Also... most repeater controllers have available logic output lines, which can easily toggle a fan. skipp KB6ZOP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of these? http://www.elkproducts.com/products/elk-960.htm -Original Message-

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer

2006-04-14 Thread hl31943
-I think I paid about $25 plus shipping. True, the logic can run the fan while the repeater is keyed up, but I needed a timer to keep the fan on, in this case 6 minutes, to let the PA cool down. I'm using a 75W UHF Mitrek running about 50W, so the additional air flow keeps things from frying.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer

2006-04-14 Thread Chuck Kelsey
] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 3:38 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer -I think I paid about $25 plus shipping. True, the logic can run the fan while the repeater is keyed up, but I needed a timer to keep the fan on, in this case 6 minutes, to let

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer

2006-04-14 Thread Tony VE6MVP
At 03:56 PM 2006/04/14 -0400, you wrote: Maybe I'm missing something here, but I've never subscribed to the theory of having fans run beyond PTT. What purpose does it serve? The transistors are generating heat only when they are on. As soon as they are off they begin to cool down on their

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer

2006-04-14 Thread Maire-Radios
14, 2006 2:05 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer So how much are they charging for the timer board? Also... most repeater controllers have available logic output lines, which can easily toggle a fan. skipp KB6ZOP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of these? http

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer

2006-04-14 Thread Lee Williams
I on the other hand run my fans 24/7,why switch them at all? 28 years with the same PA transistors,I guess GE had the right idea! 73,Lee Chuck Kelsey wrote: Maybe I'm missing something here, but I've never subscribed to the theory of having fans run beyond PTT. What purpose does it serve?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer

2006-04-14 Thread Chuck Kelsey
To me that makes more sense than running them for XX minutes after PTT. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Lee Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer I on the other hand

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer

2006-04-14 Thread Chuck Kelsey
, April 14, 2006 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer At 03:56 PM 2006/04/14 -0400, you wrote: Maybe I'm missing something here, but I've never subscribed to the theory of having fans run beyond PTT. What purpose does it serve? The transistors are generating heat only

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer

2006-04-14 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Lee Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I on the other hand run my fans 24/7,why switch them at all? 28 years with the same PA transistors,I guess GE had the right idea! 73,Lee Chuck Kelsey wrote: Maybe I'm missing something here, but I've never subscribed to the theory of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer

2006-04-14 Thread Adam Vazquez Kb2jpd
Chuck Kelsey wrote: Maybe I'm missing something here, but I've never subscribed to the theory of having fans run beyond PTT. What purpose does it serve? The transistors are generating heat only when they are on. As soon as they are off they begin to cool down on their own. If the fans are

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer

2006-04-14 Thread Tony King, W4ZT
Lee Williams wrote: I on the other hand run my fans 24/7,why switch them at all? Many repeater locations are very dirty. Running fans when there is nothing to cool just circulates the dust and dirt and deposits more of it inside your equipment. Many folks haven't re-discovered the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fan timer

2006-04-14 Thread no6b
At 4/14/2006 16:16, you wrote: Chuck Kelsey wrote: Maybe I'm missing something here, but I've never subscribed to the theory of having fans run beyond PTT. What purpose does it serve? The transistors are generating heat only when they are on. As soon as they are off they begin to cool