; http://fpsm.radiographema.com/ <http://fpsm.radiographema.com/>) where we
>>>> don’t care about extra lines as it is a Rietveld search-match. We don’t
>>>> need to identify or search peaks. We don’t use peak positions, we just fit
>>>> with the Rietveld. It is slower
No they did not, I think the reviewer was American, in fact he was also wining
about unfair competition by the EU that provides funds to develop technologies
directly competing against US companies…..
The FPSM was originally developed in 2013-2014 inside one EU project. I would
have not
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From: Reinhard Kleeberg
Subject: Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline
Date: 5 Septembe
lips 1710 diffractometer,
> >
> > vertical sample holder, scintillation counter, not much used because we
> >
> > had better instruments, hence this stupid test ;-)
> >
> > Armel
> >
> >> envoyé : 7 septembre 2023 à 10:57
> >> de : Reinhard K
@ill.fr
objet : Re: Step-like basline
Dear Luca,
sorry, I don't understand the "mosaic crystal" eplanation, especially
not the "non-centre position" issue. IMHO, when the pattern was
measured at a "powder" Bragg-Brentano configuration, in reflection
mode, axial and equ
;>> Armel>>>>> envoyé : 6 septembre 2023 à 16:57>>> de : Frank Girgsdies >>> >>>> à : Le Bail Armel >>> >>>> Cc: Rietveld_L >>>> objet : Re: Step-like basline>>>>>>>>> Dear Armel,&
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On 6 Sep 2023, at 17:43, Le Bail Armel wrote:
Dear Frank,
Same as you. I have not a complete solution.
Best
Armel
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Date: 5 September 2023 at 08:56:15 CEST
To: rietveld_l@ill.fr
Reply-To: Reinhard Kleeberg
Dear Luca,
I completel
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>> > To: rietveld_l@ill.fr
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have a prototype running there).
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Luca
>>
>> <http://www.unitn.it/>
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>> Luca Lutterotti
>> Dipartimento di Ingegneria Industriale
>> Università di Trento
>> via Sommarive, 9 - 38123 Trent
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>> objet : Re: Step-like basline
>>
>>
>> Dear Armel,
>>
>> Thanks for this nice quiz!
>>
>> However, after identifying the fol
Dear Frank,Same as you. I have not a complete solution.BestArmelenvoyé : 6 septembre 2023 à 16:57de : Frank Girgsdies à : Le Bail Armel Cc: Rietveld_L objet : Re: Step-like baslineDear Armel,Thanks for this nice quiz!However, after identifying the following spectral impurities: Cu K_beta, W
Dear Armel,
Thanks for this nice quiz!
However, after identifying the following spectral impurities:
Cu K_beta,
W L_alpha1,2
W L_beta1,2,3,4 and
W L_gamma1,
I am stuck now, leaving bout 1/2 to 1/3 of the tiny extra peaks
unexplained.
Some of them look suspiciously like Cu K_alpha1+2
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> *De :* rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr de la part
> de Alan W Hewat
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 6 septembre 2023 11:17
> *À :* Le Bail Armel
> *Cc :* Rietveld_L
> *Objet :* [EXTERNAL] Re: Step-like basline
>
> "*The biggest improvement was synchrotron radiation*".
>
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De : rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr de la part de Alan W
Hewat
Envoyé : mercredi 6 septembre 2023 11:17
À : Le Bail Armel
Cc : Rietveld_L
Objet : [EXTERNAL] Re: Step-like basline
"The biggest improvement was synchrotron radiation".
No. The big
Nice example for real world, Armel!
These huge flakes are by no means single crystals, so I tend to interpret
the small peaks in the feet of the maxima as stemming from slightly
misaligned regions, sort of graininess.
Did you try under the polarizing microscope?
Best
Miguel
El mié, 6 sep.
"*The biggest improvement was synchrotron radiation*".
No. The biggest improvement for the profile refinement of atomic and
magnetic structures (Rietveld refinement in the strict sense) was high
resolution neutron powder diffractometers with large area detectors :-)
Even SR gives undue weight to
Hi,In the same subject.A special "powder pattern" to play with (try to explain all peaks) :http://cristal.org/muscovite.pdfBestArmel
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einhard Kleeberg
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 1:49:57 PM
To: rietveld_l@ill.fr
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline
Dear Luca,
I completely agree and will be very happy to have a 1D detector with
sufficient energy resolution to resolve a "pure" Cu Kalpha
rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr on behalf of
Reinhard Kleeberg
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 1:49:57 PM
To: rietveld_l@ill.fr
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Dear Luca,
I completely agree and will be very happy to have a 1D detector with
sufficient energy resol
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Date: 5 September 2023 at 08:56:15 CEST
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> Date: 5 September 2023 at 08:56:15 CEST
> To: rietveld_l@ill.fr
> Reply-To: Reinhard Kleeberg
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> Dear Luca,
> I co
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Cc rietveld_l@ill.fr <mailto:rietveld_l@ill.fr>
Date 04/09/2023 11:07:50
Objet Re: Re[2]: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: St
gards
Habib
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À "Habib Boughzala" mailto:boughz...@yahoo.com>>
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Date 04/09/2023 11:07:50
Objet Re: Re[2]: [EXT] Re: [
ughzala" mailto:boughz...@yahoo.com>>
Cc rietveld_l@ill.fr <mailto:rietveld_l@ill.fr>
Date 04/09/2023 11:07:50
Objet Re: Re[2]: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline
Dear Habib,
the phenomenom "satellites or edges" originates from the
diffraction process. The
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Lutterotti
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To: rietveld_l@ill.fr
Cc: Habib Boughzala
Subject: Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline
Dear Habib,
Re
symmetry, shifting ...etc ... and can be
>> related to the material behavior.
>> Now, what is the physical (crystallographic!) property responsible of
>> this phenomenon? let's open the floor for a large discussion.
>>
>>
>> Habib
>>
>>
>> ---
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> Habib
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>
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> À "Habib Boughzala"
> Cc rietveld_l@ill.fr
> Date 04/09/2023 11:07:50
> Objet Re: Re[2]: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline
>
> Dear Habib,
> the
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> Cc rietveld_l@ill.fr <mailto:rietveld_l@ill.fr>
> Date 04/09/2023 11:07:50
> Objet Re: Re[2]: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline
>
>> Dear Habib,
>> the phenomenom "satellites or edges" originates from the diffra
.
Regards
Habib
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De "Reinhard Kleeberg"
À "Habib Boughzala"
Cc rietveld_l@ill.fr
Date 04/09/2023 11:07:50
Objet Re: Re[2]: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline
Dear Habib,
the phenomenom "satellites or edges" originates from
https://www.ornl.gov/staff-profile/e-andrew-payzant
From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr on behalf of
Reinhard Kleeberg
Date: Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:47 AM
To: Habib Boughzala
Cc: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr , rietveld_l@ill.fr
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Step-like basline
Habib,
obviousl
Habib,
obviously your instrument is equipped with a not cooled solid state 1D
detector (maybe Bruker Lynxeye?) and a Ni filter what is used for
"selective" absorbtion of the Cu K beta radiation.
What you see in the pattern is mainly a significant part of the tube
emission spectrum,
Dear all,
I would like to send you my witness related to this kind of observation.
I can assure that our Bruker D8 is clean and optimized!
In many cases of well conditioned thin film (spin coating or controlled
diffusion) material this kind of phenomenon is visible around the
highest
property responsible
of this phenomenon? let's open the floor for a large discussion.
Habib
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Cc rietveld_l@ill.fr
Date 04/09/2023 09:29:08
Objet Re: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline
Reinhard is right t
;>
>>
>>
>> *From:* rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr *On
Behalf
>> Of *Thomas Gegan
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 3, 2023 9:16 AM
>> *To:* Bish, David L ; Shay Tirosh ;
>> Fernando Igoa
>> *Cc:* Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr)
>> *Subject:* RE: [EXT] Re:
Monday, September 4, 2023 2:53 AM
> *To:* Thomas Gegan < <mailto:tom.ge...@basf.com> tom.ge...@basf.com>; Bish,
> David L
> < <mailto:b...@indiana.edu> b...@indiana.edu>; Shay Tirosh <
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_l-requ...@ill.fr *On Behalf
Of *Kurt Leinenweber
*Sent:* Monday, September 4, 2023 2:53 AM
*To:* Thomas Gegan ; Bish, David L
; Shay Tirosh ; Fernando Igoa
*Cc:* Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr)
*Subject:* RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline
Hi, Are these things modeled in Rietveld p
Cheers
Alan
From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr On Behalf Of
Kurt Leinenweber
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 2:53 AM
To: Thomas Gegan ; Bish, David L ;
Shay Tirosh ; Fernando Igoa
Cc: Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr)
Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline
Hi, Are these thi
of baggage to put in a refinement but if it makes the results
> >> better…
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>- Kurt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr *On
> Behalf
> >> Of *Thomas Gegan
> >> *S
rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr>
mailto:rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr>> on
behalf of Fernando Igoa mailto:fer.igoa.1...@gmail.com>>
*Sent:* Sunday, September 3, 2023 3:06 AM
*To:* Shay Tirosh mailto:stiro...@gmail.com>>
*Cc:* Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr <mailto:rietvel
ay Tirosh ;
Fernando Igoa
*Cc:* Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr)
*Subject:* RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline
I agree with a Ni absorption edge, possibly with a Kβ peak around 38° 2θ.
*Tom Gegan*
Chemist III
Phone: +1 732 205-5111, Email: tom.ge...@basf.com
Postal Address: BA
t; better…
>
>
>
>- Kurt
>
>
>
> *From:* rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr *On Behalf
> Of *Thomas Gegan
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 3, 2023 9:16 AM
> *To:* Bish, David L ; Shay Tirosh ;
> Fernando Igoa
> *Cc:* Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr)
> *Subject:* RE: [
; Rietveld
List (rietveld_l@ill.fr)
Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline
Forgot to say that the problem is absent in diffractometers with monochromator.
I observed it first in a bragg-brentano diffractometer with accelrys linear
position sensitive detector (panalytical)
it makes the results
>>> better…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>- Kurt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr *On
>>> Behalf Of *Thomas Gegan
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 3, 2023 9:16 AM
>>&
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From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr On Behalf Of Kurt
Leinenweber
Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2023 12:53 PM
To: Thomas Gegan ; Bish, David L ; Shay
Tirosh ; Fernando Igoa
Cc: Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr)
Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basli
t;> *To:* Bish, David L ; Shay Tirosh ;
>> Fernando Igoa
>> *Cc:* Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr)
>> *Subject:* RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with a Ni absorption edge, possibly with a Kβ peak around 38° 2θ.
>>
:* Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr)
> *Subject:* RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline
>
>
>
> I agree with a Ni absorption edge, possibly with a Kβ peak around 38° 2θ.
>
>
>
> *Tom Gegan*
> Chemist III
>
>
>
> Phone: +1 732 205-5111, Email: t
Tirosh ;
Fernando Igoa
Cc: Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr)
Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline
I agree with a Ni absorption edge, possibly with a Kβ peak around 38° 2θ.
Tom Gegan
Chemist III
Phone: +1 732 205-5111, Email: tom.ge...@basf.com<mailto:tom.ge...@basf.com>
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From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr On Behalf Of Bish,
David L
Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2023 7:08 AM
To: Shay Tirosh ; Fernando Igoa
Cc: Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr)
Subject: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline
Some people who received this message don't often get emai
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From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr On Behalf Of
Matthew Rowles
Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2023 7:39 AM
To: Shay Tirosh
Cc: RIETVELD_L Distribution List
Subject: Re: Step-like basline
That's a k beta peak followed by a metal foil absorption edge followed by the K
That's a k beta peak followed by a metal foil absorption edge followed by
the K alpga peak.
On Sun, 3 Sep 2023, 14:50 Shay Tirosh, wrote:
> Dear Rietvelders
> I am attaching a zoom-in on a diffraction profile.
> My question is what is the origin of the step-like profile next to a very
> large
ards,
Dave
From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr on behalf of
Fernando Igoa
Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2023 3:06 AM
To: Shay Tirosh
Cc: Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr)
Subject: [External] Re: Step-like basline
This message was sent from a non-IU address. Please exerci
Dear Shay,
Do you use CuKalpha radiation or the like?
Try to get the wavelength for the step and the peak at left. I guess they
are the absorption edge of a filter and Kbeta, respectively.
Best
Miguel
El dom, 3 sep. 2023 9:12, Yoji Kobayashi
escribió:
> Dear Shay,
>
> Does your
Dear Shay,
Does your diffractometer have a Ni foil filter (to cut K-beta radiation)? The
absorption edge of Ni often results in this “step” near any strong diffraction
peak; it is quite normal for such arrangements.
Best,
Yoji
==
Yoji
Hey Shay,
Are you using a motorized slit during the measurement? These may open up
abruptly to compensate for the angular dependence of the footprint and thus
generate an abrupt increase in the intensity.
Hope it helps :)
On Sun, Sep 3, 2023, 8:50 AM Shay Tirosh wrote:
> Dear Rietvelders
> I
Dear Rietvelders
I am attaching a zoom-in on a diffraction profile.
My question is what is the origin of the step-like profile next to a very
large reflection peak?
Is it a sample preparation problem?
Is it part of the baseline?
[image: image.png]
Thanks
Shay
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