RE: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread Björn Stenberg
Subject: RE: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately Björn, Regarding your question below, the gem graphics in the color image of PluginJewels as seen at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/PluginJewels/jewelscolor.png , are identical to the graphics seen in versions of Bejeweled

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread Tim Schmidt
development Subject: Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately You wrote: The game PluginJewels, for use on RockBox and available at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginJewels, is a blatant copyright violation of Bejeweled, the popular match-three game owned

RE: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread Daniel Stenberg
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Björn Stenberg wrote: I think we have the law on our side. The images are not copied from their game and they aren't identical, as anyone can see. The only claim they could make would be that our images are too similar to theirs and thus could be considered plagiarism.

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread ian douglas
IMO ... he sortof realizes he basically has no case Yeah: if these color graphics do not actually appear if the screenshot above is representative If that is the case If that is indeed the case If it is not the case Lots of 'if' statements, like he hasn't really done his homework. He'd be

RE: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread Christopher Woods
be misconstrued as a sign of guilt if referenced to in the future. -Original Message- From: Keith Mosher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2006 17:30 To: Rockbox development Subject: Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately This sounds like a very reasonabe idea that should

RE: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread RaeNye
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 6:44 PM To: 'Rockbox development' Subject: RE: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately Imho, a modification of the images at this point _may_ (and could

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread Adam
development Subject: Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately This sounds like a very reasonabe idea that should make them unique beyond a doubt but still keep the good gem designs intact. On 4/18/06, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing is that the existing

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread ian douglas
Adam wrote: Might it be a good idea to email the author of Gweled ... I believe Gweled already packaged with Ubuntu (and maybe other linux distros). Well, it's not installed by default with Ubuntu, but is available as a downloadable package. The description from Ubuntu's synaptic package

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread Paul Louden
I think it might be beneficial to take the highest resolution version of each of our individual Jewels (the wonderful tiled BMP we've already got) and the screenshot he provided with, cut up his jewels to align with ours, and send that one image back with them exactly side by side so the

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread Paul Louden
I'm not suggesting throwing them to the dogs, but really how much can we say either way when we didn't create the artwork in question? At the very least *we* should contact the creator of Gweled and let him know what's going on, in case he's next in line, and see if he has anything helpful. Though

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:32:42 +0200, Björn Stenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding your question below, the gem graphics in the color image of PluginJewels as seen at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/PluginJewels/jewelscolor.png , are identical to the graphics seen in versions of

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:31:57 +0200 (CEST), Daniel Stenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Björn Stenberg wrote: I think we have the law on our side. The images are not copied from their game and they aren't identical, as anyone can see. The only claim they could make would be

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:49:16 +0200, RaeNye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe add to the wiki and the manual a small-print notice that says this game was NOT developed, published, or officially licensed by by PopCap Games There is no relationship between this game and the markedly inferior

RE: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread Paul van der Heu
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:04:39 -0400, bk wrote:  If it's just a matter of changing some colors around or something  else minor I don't see the harm if it means avoiding potentially  disasterous legal complications. There's more to it.. IF you 'just change some colors around' you basically admit

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread Paul Louden
Yeah, I agree that doing anything to change ours at the moment is pointless. We shouldn't just say Screw you or anything, but no steps/changes should be made to what we have until at least some more discussion has happened between Popcap and us. On 4/18/06, Paul van der Heu [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread Bluechip
If the only thing the guy cares about is the graphics why not just: A) thrown the problem at the Gwled author and/or B) Just change the shapes in some way Problem is *gone* !? If he wants to get stupid about IPR and S/w Patents etc. then let's give hims a run for his money !? BC Yeah, I agree

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-18 Thread Neon John
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:44:41 -0700, Steve Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bluechip wrote: If he wants to get stupid about IPR and S/w Patents etc. then let's give hims a run for his money !? Somebody mentioned small claims court. If it goes to court, this is a copyright matter, so that means

RE: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-17 Thread Christopher Woods
@ Björn or anybody else concerned, has there been any further action in this? Christopher

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-17 Thread Björn Stenberg
Christopher Woods wrote: @ Björn or anybody else concerned, has there been any further action in this? No. I will post to the list if/when anything happens. -- Björn

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-16 Thread Kaggen
Why not something along the lines of: -- Dear mr Haas, Please stop sending us unsolicited commercial e-mail messages or we will be forced to take legal action. -- I think it has more legal merit than his claim :-) /Anders

Re: Fwd: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-15 Thread Neon John
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 01:21:27 +0200, Dominik Riebeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I just received the following mail today -- I guess because I recently edited the wiki page (at least it shows me as the last editor of the page up to now) and my mail address can be found on the wiki. I'm

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-15 Thread Michiel van der Kolk
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 09:39:48PM -0400, bk wrote: How can they say there are copyright violations? Clearly none of the code is theirs since the Rockbox code is open and their game is proprietary, and the plugin author didn't copy any graphics, right? There's no trademark violations any

Re: Fwd: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-15 Thread Tomas Salfischberger
Hi Dominik, Can you get us the full mail headers? Just to make sure the message is real? In some way this doesn't feel genuine to me... Tomas Dominik Riebeling wrote: Hi all, I just received the following mail today -- I guess because I recently edited the wiki page (at least it shows me as

Re: Fwd: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-15 Thread Dominik Riebeling
for domain of [EMAIL PROTECTED]) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

Re: Fwd: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-15 Thread Tomas Salfischberger
Hi, Dominik Riebeling wrote: sure, I'm appending the complete CnP'ed mail text (don't know how to forward this message including headers as attachment with gmail). Ok, looks good to me. You can ask him to contact someone by phone, and explain his problem, just to make sure he understands

Re: Fwd: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-15 Thread Daniel Stenberg
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006, Tomas Salfischberger wrote: You can ask him to contact someone by phone, and explain his problem, just to make sure he understands what we do etc. I think Daniel or Linus would be a good choise for that phonecall, or some native English speaker with legal knowledge. (Do

RE: Fwd: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-15 Thread Christopher Woods
or 'skills-based' gameplay site). -Original Message- From: Daniel Stenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 April 2006 16:36 To: Rockbox development Subject: Re: Fwd: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately On Sat, 15 Apr 2006, Tomas Salfischberger wrote: You can ask him

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-15 Thread Ray Lambert
In adversarial situations such as this, it is usually best to give as little information as possible. You never know when your adversary can find a way to turn something around and use it against you. For example, your statement below can be viewed as an admission that you/we *were*

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-14 Thread Joseph Jones
PROTECTED] Date: Apr 14, 2006 11:18 PM Subject: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Dave Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mr. Riebeling: The game PluginJewels, for use on RockBox and available at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginJewels

Re: Remove PluginJewels from RockBox downloads immediately

2006-04-14 Thread Andrew 'ashridah' Pilley
On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 21:39 -0400, bk wrote: How can they say there are copyright violations? Clearly none of the code is theirs since the Rockbox code is open and their game is proprietary, and the plugin author didn't copy any graphics, right? There's no trademark violations any more