Re: [Rpm-maint] Multiple ABI architectures (parallel installation, detection, handling)

2011-11-04 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 11/03/2011 09:34 PM, Jon Masters wrote: Panu Matilainenpmati...@laiskiainen.org wrote: On 10/21/2011 10:20 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: long term maybe we can do something better. right now im looking for a way to enable yum to detect the arches correctly without it resorting to things

Re: [Rpm-maint] Multiple ABI architectures (parallel installation, detection, handling)

2011-11-03 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 10/27/2011 12:00 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: [...big snip...] its not sufficient. it evaluates to armv7l on a hardware floating point system. we would need it to be armv7hl or armv7hnl to give yum the info it needs maybe _target_cpu could be used though it would need a dict of compatiable

Re: [Rpm-maint] Multiple ABI architectures (parallel installation, detection, handling)

2011-11-03 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 10/21/2011 10:20 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: long term maybe we can do something better. right now im looking for a way to enable yum to detect the arches correctly without it resorting to things like running readelf to determine the abi of the running system. since its noarch we cant just

Re: [Rpm-maint] Multiple ABI architectures (parallel installation, detection, handling)

2011-11-03 Thread Jon Masters
Panu Matilainen pmati...@laiskiainen.org wrote: On 10/21/2011 10:20 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: long term maybe we can do something better. right now im looking for a way to enable yum to detect the arches correctly without it resorting to things like running readelf to determine the abi of the

Re: [Rpm-maint] Multiple ABI architectures (parallel installation, detection, handling)

2011-11-03 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:26:58 +0200 Panu Matilainen pmati...@laiskiainen.org escribió: On 10/27/2011 12:00 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: [...big snip...] its not sufficient. it evaluates to armv7l on a hardware floating point system. we would need it

Re: [Rpm-maint] Multiple ABI architectures (parallel installation, detection, handling)

2011-10-26 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:20:13 -0500 Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:00:56 -0500 Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash:

Re: [Rpm-maint] Multiple ABI architectures (parallel installation, detection, handling)

2011-10-21 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:02:52 +0300 Panu Matilainen pmati...@laiskiainen.org wrote: On 09/16/2011 04:58 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: On Friday, September 16, 2011 04:46:33 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: Oh I knew this would happen... the send-button is a

Re: [Rpm-maint] Multiple ABI architectures (parallel installation, detection, handling)

2011-10-21 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:00:56 -0500 Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:02:52 +0300 Panu Matilainen pmati...@laiskiainen.org wrote: On 09/16/2011 04:58 PM, Dennis Gilmore

Re: [Rpm-maint] Multiple ABI architectures (parallel installation, detection, handling)

2011-09-17 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 09/16/2011 10:40 PM, Mark Hatle wrote: On 9/16/11 4:02 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 09/15/2011 01:55 PM, Jon Masters wrote: ... What I want out of this discussion is a decision around how multiple ABIs within an architecture will be handled in general. If you're allergic to ARM,

Re: [Rpm-maint] Multiple ABI architectures (parallel installation, detection, handling)

2011-09-16 Thread Panu Matilainen
Oh I knew this would happen... the send-button is a magic memory-enhancer in disguise. One (of probably many) forgotten bits, this time hopefully with working address for Dennish too: On 09/15/2011 01:55 PM, Jon Masters wrote: All of the existing stuff assumes that if we have vfpv3 on

Re: [Rpm-maint] Multiple ABI architectures (parallel installation, detection, handling)

2011-09-16 Thread Jon Masters
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 12:46 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: One simple brute-force solution that should work right now is to just keep the softfp/hardfp architectures incompatible from rpm POV and make the assumption that hardfp ABI will be used if the system is capable of it. And if

Re: [Rpm-maint] Multiple ABI architectures (parallel installation, detection, handling)

2011-09-16 Thread James Antill
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 12:02 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 09/15/2011 01:55 PM, Jon Masters wrote: 1) Location of libraries and the like: the libraries for different ABI's need to go to separate paths. Currently the non-debian world knows /lib and /lib64, and while it's of course possible

Re: [Rpm-maint] Multiple ABI architectures (parallel installation, detection, handling)

2011-09-16 Thread Dennis Gilmore
Resending i posted to list from address not subscibed On Friday, September 16, 2011 04:46:33 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: Oh I knew this would happen... the send-button is a magic memory-enhancer in disguise. One (of probably many) forgotten bits, this time hopefully with working address for

Re: [Rpm-maint] Multiple ABI architectures (parallel installation, detection, handling)

2011-09-16 Thread Mark Hatle
On 9/16/11 4:02 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 09/15/2011 01:55 PM, Jon Masters wrote: ... What I want out of this discussion is a decision around how multiple ABIs within an architecture will be handled in general. If you're allergic to ARM, consider that in the Intel space there is now

[Rpm-maint] Multiple ABI architectures (parallel installation, detection, handling)

2011-09-15 Thread Jon Masters
Folks, I've taken the liberty of inviting myself to the party :) I'm also on IRC on Freenode, and have been following RPM development for some time in a lurking capacity. A number of you know me from the office, but greetings to everyone else! We're currently engaged in bootstrapping support for