I look forward to buying one (already committed with Joe Warren), although it
probably won't use the Sunkist sign, as I intend to use it for packing fruit
from colder climates, for which it would serve equally well.
All scales could stand to have more flats or low-profile buildings, especially
Instruction sheets for older kits surface from time to time; the Howell Day
Museum of the NMRA, as I understand it, is trying to assemble a file of
historic drawings and instructions.
You might e-mail them to see if they could copy the CD materials, if any.
Moreover, Cleveland Models didn't
_
The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail.
I may not know what I'm talking about (not that has ever deterred me in the
past), being relatively new to S scale specifically, but my suspicion is that
there were never many of the CD 4-6-0's to begin with, as they appeared at the
end of the Depression when disposable income was limited for
As noted previously, my understanding/memory is that the index was originally
an NMRA
project and Kalmbach took over responsibility for maintaining and updating it
at some point,
so what this development represents is Kalmbach's bowing out and letting the
project and
website revert to the
Even more oddly, the issue of RMC that just arrived has an article by Mont
Switzer on the Ball Line Mather cars with much helpful information for anyone
modeling them.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
Oddly enough, it turns out there is a
I'd be inclined to be careful about this, as the instruction sheet illustrated
is from the Quality
Craft kit (and so far as I know, QC didn't offer this particular kit in S
scale).
This seller is something of a problem, as he has always been sparing of his
scans (and years ago, his scans were
I rather concluded Friday was not the day I should have chosen for a drop-in,
as although I spent nearly $500 on some cars and structure kits (and could have
doubled that easily, especially with some of the specials Southwind was
offering), and I did meet a few familiar names from the list
Don Heimburger had a good supply of older kits and parts from an estate, priced
attractively.
Needless to say, I stocked up. Among the purchases were both some Ace
Bettendorf kits and the AF conversion bolster #2012 for hopper cars. I'd
bought an already-converted AF hopper early in my S
I had long labored under the same misapprehension as Carey, so Bill's careful
and detailed explanation of the difficulties in scaling up or down an existing
kit was most informative. In fact, it deserves wider dissemination, perhaps in
one of the major periodicals.
Jace Kahn
Many thanks to the list member who posted the listing of Ace parts from the
Steam Depot catalogue in the files; now I have a much better idea of what was
made in the past.
My question is the same: is S scale ever going to see Ace castings again? I
think I read
that Russ Downs sold the line
The 02012 bolster adapters for converting AF cars are set up to take Kadee #5's
(which are really oversize for HO, which is why Kadee eventually came up with
their smaller #58's), back
before Kadee realized (or had pointed out to them) that their On3 couplers
would work fine for S scale with a
Very nice and seems quite reasonably-priced. I just can't imagine what
possible use
I'd make of one.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
I have a tender that I need to unload, no, make that sell, it is located here;
One of the many goodies I found at Duluth during my blitzkrieg visit was a
Chesapeake three-bay rib-side modernish hopper.
Apparently the line was marketed through Des Plaines Hobbies, and I have no
idea whether there were other models in the
line, as this is the first I've come across it. I
It seems reasonable to have sort-of blackout periods, so long as it is clear to
everyone when they are. Without intending criticism of
anyone in the planning of the convention, I was not really clear what was going
on when, and what effect that would have on the rest
of the program. In my
Except perhaps for some organic oven cleaners (which don't seem to work as
well), I do suggest the usual precautions in
handling oven cleaner are worth remembering--the principal ingredient is lye.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
With
Thanks for all the background, Stan; two other list members had also provided
the story of Chesapeake Models (and it appears this was the only kit produced).
I now have four of them (three SSA's and this one--I figured out belatedly
that the kit looked familiar and dug out an SSA and made the
I just finished assembling (not much work, unless the ladders are warped, as
they were on two kits I bought just recently) a pair of AM hoppers and while
there is no question they are not so detailed as SHS hoppers (of which I now
have quite a few), they are good, serviceable
S scale cars. In
SHS caboose trucks are double insulated, and the procedure for electrical
pickup is with metal sideframes and a plastic bolster, so each
set of wheels on each side has a different polarity. Seems complicated, but
I've been assured the rationale is to prevent short-circuits.
If that seems a bit
Thanks, Ed for the latter. As to the former, thirty-five years accumulation of
O SCALE is not only a major financial investment (I have long since stopped
thinking about what I've put into them over the years, but it would almost
certainly buy a house in many areas) but an insuperable
I really hadn't thought about it, but is there an Sn3 list, or does the S scale
list pretty much also cover it?
I now have two RGS #20's and one of Swede Norlin's DRGW #50's (when he sold it
to me almost twenty-five years
ago, he said it was his last complete set of parts, although without the
Who produced the basic body?
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
From: hjsh...@mcn.org
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 12:51:48 -0700
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} 1960's coil flat cars; possble
Hi Group
For those who
I hope this is not the Chicago S scale show that was recently announced as the
weekend of 22-23 October?
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
From: pieter_r...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:21:01 -0700
@yahoogroups.com
From: pieter_r...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:33:00 -0700
Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} 2010 CJSS Get Together
Hi Jace;
No, this is in new Jersey.
Pieter E. Roos
--- On Tue, 8/10/10, JGG KahnSr jacek...@hotmail.com wrote:
I hope this is not the Chicago S scale show
This is at least the second response to suggest the interesting idea that S
scale may have a niche market for those already in scale model railroading
rather than beginners, and that manufacture and marketing should be directed
that way. I suspect that is some of the rationale
for the
I recently bought a built-up Berlyn RGS truss-rod stock car, a type not offered
by PBL. What has happened to Berlyn and their
kits, as I can find no trace of them on the internet?
And is it just summer or what? It is still several weeks until the Narrow Gage
Convention, but no one responded
I got mine yesterday, and from the time Joe notified me the kits were ready
until I had it in my hands was less than a week. It is really impressive, well
worth the modest price (for laser-cut structures), and anyone who has not
gotten one from this run or a previous one
would do well to
Actually, the sideframes result in this being an S-4, since they are AAR
switcher sideframes, yet that is not exactly right, either, as the hood louvres
represent the pre-war kind found on early S-2's only (and the horizontal ones
during some of the WWII era S-2's are presumably unavailable in
Actually, the sideframes result in this being an S-4, since they are AAR
switcher sideframes, yet that is not exactly right, either, as the hood louvres
represent the pre-war kind found on early S-2's only (and the horizontal ones
during some of the WWII era S-2's are presumably unavailable in
Actually, the sideframes result in this being an S-4, since they are AAR
switcher sideframes, yet that is not exactly right, either, as the hood louvres
represent the pre-war kind found on early S-2's only (and the horizontal ones
during some of the WWII era S-2's are presumably unavailable in
Sorry for the multiple messages--hotmail has been acting up.
I was so aggravated I forgot to add the obvious solution noted by Pieter, to
find a Miller and buy a North Coast
drive for it (assuming they continue to be available).
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain
I guess that is what I was saying, that a bit more thought would have resulted
in a better gear tower and orienting the Sagami can motor for a flywheel, as
well as a better alignment of the motor shafts to the gearing. The basic
concept was good.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo
The Miller hood will make either an S-2 or (with replacement AAR sideframes) an
S-4; the S-1 (and S-3) not only have a narrower set of hood louvres but since
they were 660HP units, the exhaust is a conical stack centered rather than the
offset tapered square stack on the turbocharged 1000HP
PM, JGG KahnSr jacek...@hotmail.com wrote:
The Miller hood will make either an S-2 or (with replacement AAR
sideframes) an S-4; the S-1 (and S-3) not only have a narrower set of hood
louvres but since they were 660HP units, the exhaust is a conical stack
centered rather than
Refuge ties are longer ties to provide escape bays at periodic points along a
bridge or trestle so pedestrians can get off the right of way if
a train is approaching.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
found a bag of 500 Kappler bridge and
for $90 a piece plus the cost to upgrade each to S
standard gauge.
Bob Frascella
Wenham, MA
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, JGG KahnSr jacek...@hotmail.com wrote:
Generally, I agree with your conclusions (including the idea I proposed,
that for the same money one could have bought
Has anyone seen a g around? One seems to be missing.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Yahoo! Groups
I've come across the occasional reference to S scale Crown freight cars, and
they appear to be based on the same models in O scale
(later bought out by Weaver); this is the first knowledge I've had that Crown
ever was in S scale.
I know Mike MacCormack produced three cars in O scale in the late
Having recently bought a few items from the Train and Trooper inventory
reduction sale (I have been in On2 for about forty years),
I wonder whether there is any chatlist or other venue for Sn2?
One question is what others have done to attach a coupler to the TNT Forneys;
apparently there is
of
the century.
Have fun!
Bill Winans
Prescott Valley, AZ
- Original Message -
From: JGG KahnSr
To: s-scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:03 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Crown
I've come across the occasional reference to S scale Crown freight cars, and
they appear
As Bill indicated, Crown did; in fact, there is one on ebay right now (Swift),
but the asking price is higher than I am wiling to pay for one
of these.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
I'd like to know who offers a wood side reefer with
I think almost the first famous railroad project was the Gorre and Daphetid,
and those did sell out in almost all the scales
offered, which led the NMRA Board to approve further projects. Although most
of the names were HO (reflecting the
predominant scale in model railroading for some years),
With the SHS car gone, all the rest except for the gondola (American) are PRS
40' cars, either steel refrigerator or boxcar. The NMRA ad
describes which are which.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
Which outfit produced the cars that remain
, 25 Aug 2010 18:01:52 +
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} RE: NMRA S scale cars of famous HO model
railroads
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, JGG KahnSr jacek...@... wrote:
So far as I know, there were no N scale (are there any famous
historical N scale railroads?-
Hi Jace, Rich
Don Heimburger had a set of parts for the superstructure and cylinders for the
Baldwin light 2-8-0 that was apparently available as a set
some years ago, primarily from when Kemtron produced S scale castings. Don
said Sandusky then had it until the owner died, after which
he had no idea where
I rather doubt it, as GE and Alco (later GE alone) built the sideframes for the
steeplecabs and boxcab electric locomotives on which the first diesel switchers
were based, so the
Q-Car shorter GE locomotive sideframe (or Wagner/Current Line equivalent) would
be correct for an O scale model but
Dear Bill
The MaPa #25 and #26 (of which PFM sold many in HO) were standard BLW
products; they sold similar locomotives to a number of roads, especially
shortlines who ordered from the catalogue (sort of a Sears wish book
operation). Muncel Chang told me several years ago that when the
Yes, the shorter GE sideframe (early GE locomotives were built by
Alco--colocated in Schenectady, of course--but from the 1920's on GE's were
built at Erie) is for smaller locomtives--essentially 40T or so--while the
longer is for larger products, such as Q-Car's own steeplecab (not available
.
The boxcabs used an 8' version of that frame. Q-Car makes a 78
version used under GE 30 ton locos. Works out to 8.66 feet. What we
need is a 72 in O scale. Or a correct 96 one in S. BTW; the one
for the 50/60 ton steeple cabs is too short at only 84.
TCC:}
On Sep 4, 2010, at 5:05 PM, JGG
I was at the convention and got around to some of the railroads on exhibit but
not all--I'm sorry to say I didn't make it to yours (probably on the wrong side
of St Louis from where I was staying with family).
I suspect you have a point that those specializing in Sn3 often don't seem to
have
Actually, that was Ed L. quoting my original post.
It is even more striking with two-foot: one of the iconic images in railroading
(I think taken by Lin Moody) is a standard gage MEC steel
boxcar next to a two-foot version. It has been reproduced in many discussions
of narrow gage as an
S
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, JGG KahnSr jacek...@... wrote:
I was at the convention and got around to some of the railroads on exhibit
but not all--I'm sorry to say I didn't make it to yours (probably on the
wrong side of St Louis from where I was staying with family).
I
I have a good sense of model railroad (especially O scale) history, having
probably lived more than half of its existence, starting early and now having
been an addict off and on for fifty-five years or more. there is supposed to
be a museum dedicated to him in Cedar Falls IA--and I drive
, 2010 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} 2010 National Narrow Gauge Convention St Louis
Great,
Give me a heads up just before you come back to St Louis.
Mike S
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, JGG KahnSr jacek...@... wrote:
Right now I've got early February
The wire was long down by the late 1960's and the cars in museums. The Crandic
SW-8/9's in yellow and red doubleheaded regularly right through the University,
however, crossing the Iowa River on a long viaduct. Atlas once offered them in
O scale factory-painted for Crandic and I was tempted,
It looks as if I shall be acquiring my first S scale steam locomotive, one of
Don's excellent 2-8-0's. Unhappily for me, I operate only
plain-vanilla DC and am not likely at this late date to change to DCC with all
the attendant trouble and expense (I literally could not
tell you how many
Yeah, right. And for every three O scale brass locomotives I sell I can buy
one S scale one...
You and Dave.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
Posted by: JGG KahnSr jacek...@hotmail.com jggksr
Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:04 pm (PDT)
. . . I
Dear Ken
Many thanks for your kind offer--that makes a lot of sense, although I probably
won't have the daylight to try that until mid-October or so (dreadful being
semi-retired--less than time than when I was working 50-60 hours/wk).
Something of the sort has been suggested for an O scale
I don't know the answer to that (having been a life member for over thirty
years); I suppose one could find out by opening the NMRA website and checking
the non-member hotlink--they do sell other merchandise to non-members, some at
the same price, some slightly higher (e.g., standards gages).
Last month's NMRA Bulletin listed the S scale cars available; the only SHS car
was painted for Ed Ravenscroft's railroad and those were sold out before I
first ordered weeks ago (it was an outside-braced boxcar). Most of the
remaining cars are either PRS 40' steel boxcars or refrigerator
Let me try again, as I got no nibbles when I asked a while ago.
Don Heimburger had a set of parts for an S scale 2-8-0, mostly Kemtron, some
Sandusky; he told me that apparently there was most of
a complete kit once offered, taken over by Sandusky years ago after the Kemtron
assets were sold,
I just received my SHS 2-8-0 and in the flesh/metal and plastic it is at least
as impressive as I had been led to believe by looking
at Don's website. Haven't run it yet--that will require a DCC installation at
some kind soul's venue--but I don't doubt it will run
as well as my SHS diesel
Didn't think to try them, just the outside drivers. I suppose I should be more
bothered by the lack of flanges
on #2 and #3 than I am, but this is such a common compromise for scale model
locomotives for most of the
history of model railroading it is a non-starter issue for most of us.
Jace
at 8:36 AM, JGG KahnSr jacek...@hotmail.com wrote:
Didn't think to try them, just the outside drivers. I suppose I should be
more bothered by the lack of flanges
on #2 and #3 than I am, but this is such a common compromise for scale
model locomotives for most of the
history of model
%40yahoogroups.com, JGG
KahnSr jacek...@... wrote:
the lack of flanges...snip a common compromise for scale model
locomotives skip
Just as there are examples of prototype steam locomotive's having
drivers with out flanges; there are several S scale steam locomotives
that have all
Getting away from electronics for a moment, since my 2-8-0 is painted for WM I
think I should have a matching caboose. Happily, the
standard WM steel caboose is one of the Northeastern pattern, along with RDG,
LV, LHR, and many others (mostly secondhand owners),
produced as the stock AF. As
) on this site, much
usable in S.
Pieter E. Roos
--- On Wed, 9/22/10, JGG KahnSr jacek...@hotmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Even P/48 drivers in O
scale have flanges that are oversize (just rather less than
standard O ones), requiring some
compromise on spacing. I doubt even large scale/G
Darn!! Just when I finally bought one, and two/another one is probably out of
the question, especially since I blew a bundle at the Narrow Gage Convention,
then bought two Sn3 brass locomotives in the same period as the SHS 2-8-0. If
my dear wife were still around to mind
the monthly budget
[Probably] a relief I shall not need to bust the piggy bank or go into
principal for another 2-8-0; Don is saving me from myself..
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
Seems I missed something in our announcement. The sample engines
are
Not a chance, either because I have two lifetimes' worth of projects (and that
was probably before I started acquiring any S scale) or
because it is not just the deep flanges but also insulating for two-rail. Even
the couple of times I've converted an O scale steam locomotive
I've been happy
-rail track around.
At least that's one issue O Gauge has that S doesn't!
Pieter E. Roos
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, JGG KahnSr jacek...@hotmail.com wrote:
Not a chance, either because I have two lifetimes' worth of
projects (and that was probably before I started acquiring
any S scale
Off the top of my head, I believe CDS offers dry transfers for data-only
freight car lettering.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com; ss...@yahoogroups.com
From: edandhda...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, JGG KahnSr jacek...@hotmail.com
mailto:jacekahn%40hotmail.com wrote:
If you say so--I hadn't really paid much attention to the
trucks I took off AF cars but checked now and see they are
plastic wheels. Never owned any AF locomotives.
Still am not going to take
4 years. I am sure that has a lot to do with it. As far as DCC vs all
others, DCC is now 90% of our 2-8-0 sales.
Don
On Sep 27, 2010, at 2:20 PM, JGG KahnSr wrote:
It is instructive that (not surprisingly) Don still has enough AC
deep flange 2-8-0's to offer a demo closeout
Good prices all. Makes me wish I modeled CO (or felt like painting in S
scale).
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
From: teddym...@aol.com
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 00:57:55 +
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re:
Umm--just to pick nits, it is Blenheim PALACE (built in the early
eighteenth-century, long after the age of castles, by the first Duke
of Marlborough, John Churchill, to commemorate his great victory at Blenheim on
the Continent). Been there.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR
Yes, the selection under the S scale listing keeps growing, and the seller has
even branched out into O scale.
This is an ancient technology, going back to the 1930's in model railroading,
when decal lettering was in its infancy
and those who had the skill often hand-lettered cars (some quite
Either on this list or one of the O scale ones, someone suggested the Bachmann
EZ Command system as a simple and relatively inexpensive
way to operate my SHS 2-8-0. I bought a used one, which seems all right, but
it came without the instructions, and the plug on the track
cord apparently is
After my monthly budget was replenished I was feeling acquisitive and thinking
about even more of them, but so far as I can tell from
the NMRA website, they are all gone.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
Perhaps it is another aspect of the relatively small size of the S scale market
that there are no more importers with deep pockets who
can bankroll new developments without what too often looks like a ponzi scheme,
taking in money not really as deposits of earnest
commitment to buy but as
There is a very good reason that most model railroad items now have that
specific warning about not suitable for under fourteen:
recent federal safety regulations have targeted toys (given the well-publicized
PRC use of lead, etc) with onerous reporting requirements
which would drive most
I suppose nothing like the Chinese turning off the new production tap to afford
the chance to check existing inventory...
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
We recently found some sold out standard flat cars with can sell
with our loads.
I suspect an irony here, as my understanding was that AM started out with the
idea of being produced entirely in the US.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
American Models has discontinued sales to dealers on a number of products,
primarly
!
Always something . . .
String Bob __
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, JGG KahnSr jacek...@... wrote:
While I cannot discount the wheels themselves, the symptom often comes from
split gears. Is it possible that as the plastic has aged
Still a fascinating memory of riding behind them a few times from the Jersey
Shore into NYC (where I visited Carmen Webster's, to give some idea how long
ago that was--late 1970's, I think) where they changed power with the diesels
at Bay Head (?), watching them at the head end of a long
Dear Wes
One of my Kidder 44-tonners with Wagner drive is painted for SV #3; the
lettering (individual letters) came out nicely except for the #3 on the cab
sides. Not sure what to do about that.
The RR brass 44-tonner has Ph III hoods, while the SV #3 was a Ph IV with
shutters and screening
I have a blind spot about New Jersey that I have no urge to correct--may have
something to do with my first wife being from there...
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
On Oct 29, 2010, at 12:14 AM, JGG KahnSr wrote:
... from the Jersey
as is, knowing
how few people would know the difference between a Ph III and a Ph IV. Check
back once a month or so for updates on the drawings. I had the plow drawing
nearly completed before I realized it was only 30' long and not 36'. -Wes
--- On Fri, 10/29/10, JGG KahnSr jacek...@hotmail.com
Something Don Thompson is the expert on but I am asking publicly because his
answer may be informative
to others: I just bought a NASG convention car, the MStL cement car, which I
notice has heavy-duty Bettendorf
trucks, which I didn't recall seeing on any other SHS cars. I checked my other
In replying to a question on the Sn2 list I started to figure out more clearly
where I am going in S scale. From time to time since I joined the list some
other members have encouraged (probably some in earnest, some tongue-in-cheek)
me to dispose of my very considerable accumulation of O
I am feeling unusually dumb, even more than usual, about the electronic end of
the hobby.
I read the Bachmann manual on the basic system I bought, and I read the manual
with my SHS
2-8-0, and I am obviously missing something, as I cannot get the locomotive to
move.
The SHS manual says that
Since I don't find the BM on the website, I'd guess someone or someones
cleaned you out as soon as you posted them.
Probably just as well, saved me from myself.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
We have a few first and 2nd run sold out SW1s
SECTOR plates. Very common in British modeling where space is even more
limited than in the US or Canada (or Australia). I've always
enjoyed reading British modeling magazines (MRJ is the most sophisticated) and
model railway books for ideas. Iain Rice, who has published some things
through
The question keeps coming up on the O scale lists, too (doesn't seem to be
quite so much an object of discussion among HO or N modelers, but then I know
about what goes on there mostly from the NMRA Bulletin or RMC). Granted, there
tends to be a lot more commercial products for contemporary
Off the top of my head without digging into references, I think the real
difference (and visible if a USRA and a GLa are put next to each
other) is that the GLa is about a foot shorter in height.
I finally paid more than I wanted for a Yoder GLca in O scale (and ended up
with two GLa's as
Yes, I'd known that Jim King had done the wagontop in urethane, although where
there have been such productions, the kits have not been inexpensive. Urethane
limited-runs tend to be larger than brass (and accordingly cheaper) but not so
great as to afford economies of scale;
probably S scale
County Traction Co.
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, JGG KahnSr jacek...@... wrote:
Off the top of my head without digging into references, I think the real
difference (and visible if a USRA and a GLa are put next to each
other) is that the GLa is about a foot shorter in height.
8
It is hard to think what would have been left of the poor AAR offset-side twin
with some of those conversions; almost easier, I would think
to scratchbuild, although when Frank Titman was pioneering S scale, the
extensive use of styrene now common was almost unthought of.
Jace Kahn
General
distribution among modelers, but otherwise
I'd think the higher numbers would be for boxcars and hoppers, at least for
those who model the transition era.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, JGG KahnSr jacek
I already own one of the Miller S-4's with replacement drive but might be
interested in another. What kind of price were you
thinking of?
The price on the Overland seems very good, but, sadly, it is just too modern
for me.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County
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