RE: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-30 Thread Adrian Brown
19:31 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...) Oh, but I haven't actually tested the output stream yet. So for all I know, some error is lurking somewhere making my numbers smaller by accidentally throwing data away... On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Thomas

Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-29 Thread the_wub !
Actually, late night spurt — with Huffman trees it's 5,528 bytes and 6,653 bytes respectively. So going with the lowest figure I make that 330k for the whole map. The watermark isn't a problem as I'd want to make up each screen by hand anyway. I'd be happy to make a couple of test screens up

Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-29 Thread the_wub !
Actually, I guess you don't really need test screens for what you're doing. the offer is there anyhow :)

RE: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-29 Thread Adrian Brown
- From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Thomas Harte Sent: 28 July 2010 22:31 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...) Hmmm, not doing very well with the Flashback image I chose to test (the top left screen

Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-29 Thread Thomas Harte
. Anybody send me a link? Andy -Original Message- From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Thomas Harte Sent: 28 July 2010 00:11 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...) Actually, late night spurt

Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-29 Thread Thomas Harte
hoping to get some more time on Sam Uip soon Adrian -Original Message- From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Thomas Harte Sent: 28 July 2010 22:31 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...) Hmmm

RE: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-28 Thread Andrew Park
send me a link? Andy -Original Message- From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Thomas Harte Sent: 28 July 2010 00:11 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...) Actually, late night spurt — with Huffman trees

RE: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-28 Thread Stefan Drissen
[mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Andrew Park Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:29 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...) It is great to see some activity on here again, 1 quick question where did the amiga dizzy map come from to get screens, i've been

Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-28 Thread Thomas Harte
-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Andrew Park Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:29 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...) It is great to see some activity on here again, 1 quick question where did the amiga dizzy map come from to get screens, i've been

Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-28 Thread Thomas Harte
previous post). Stefan -Original Message- From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Andrew Park Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:29 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...) It is great to see some

RE: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-27 Thread Stefan Drissen
: Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...) If png's can be used then I think we should do it even if using an image of tiles is a bit ironic! It would allow changes to be made to the image in the gimp rather than flash! if nothing else! ;) If a success, I don't dare to dream about scumm

Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-27 Thread Thomas Harte
@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...) If png's can be used then I think we should do it even if using an image of tiles is a bit ironic!  It would allow changes to be made to the image in the gimp rather than flash! if nothing else! ;)  If a success, I don't dare

Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-27 Thread Thomas Harte
: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of the_wub ! Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 19:21 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...) If png's can be used then I think we should do it even if using an image of tiles is a bit

Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-27 Thread Stefan Drissen
... :-) -Original Message- From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of the_wub ! Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 19:21 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...) If png's can be used then I think we should do it even

RE: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-26 Thread Stefan Drissen
Ummm... whats the point in using a png map if the png is based on tiles?!? I thought the idea for using png was to allow some really nice authentic graphics to be used that do not look tiley - which the Dizzy map obviously does. The png idea could be very good for something NOT tile based

Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-26 Thread Thomas Harte
The gamble is that anything cartoony compresses better than anything photographic, that PNG is work subsequent to the Sam's heyday, explaining why we're able to be much more bullish about compression rates and that if the map stops fitting we can just break it into multiload. It may not work, but

RE: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-26 Thread Stefan Drissen
: maandag 26 juli 2010 11:19 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...) The gamble is that anything cartoony compresses better than anything photographic, that PNG is work subsequent to the Sam's heyday, explaining why we're able to be much more bullish about

RE: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-26 Thread warren
no sense since it is originally tile based. -Original Message- From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Thomas Harte Sent: maandag 26 juli 2010 11:19 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...) The gamble

Re: Dizzy (was: Porting spectrum games...)

2010-07-26 Thread the_wub !
If png's can be used then I think we should do it even if using an image of tiles is a bit ironic! It would allow changes to be made to the image in the gimp rather than flash! if nothing else! ;) If a success, I don't dare to dream about scumm but another possible port would be Flashback, I