Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-13 Thread Robert van der Veeke
Van: Dave Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: about that planned elite conversion Datum: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 12:09 unconvinced - i expect the scan conversion could handle two sets of data with only a minor decrease in speed, eg 12 frames - 10 frames

Re: About that planned Elite conversion

1998-12-13 Thread David Laundon
Call me thick if you like uncomfortable pause but what is all this Elite business anyway? I have to admit, I've never played Elite before, so what's the game all about, and why all the fuss about it? (I've led a sheltered existence y'know!) Dave (Laundon)

Re: About that planned Elite conversion

1998-12-13 Thread David
Laundon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 13 December 1998 15:15 Subject: Re: About that planned Elite conversion Call me thick if you like uncomfortable pause but what is all this Elite business anyway? I have to admit, I've never played Elite before, so what's the game

Re: About that planned Elite conversion

1998-12-13 Thread Andrew Gale
I have to admit, I've never played Elite before, so what's the game all about, and why all the fuss about it? (I've led a sheltered existence y'know!) It's another one of these over-rated speccy games, like Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy :) We all know that the best games *ever* are writeen

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-10 Thread Frode Tenneboe
OnWed, 9 Dec 1998 16:00:28 +0100, Frode Tenneboe said: 6MHz in theory. I can't remember the exact details, but I think it was possible to achieve speeds close to that by using uncontended banks and turning off the screen duing border updates. There are no uncontended banks on Sam

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-10 Thread Frode Tenneboe
OnWed, 9 Dec 1998 14:17:17 +0100, Frode Tenneboe said: OnWed, 9 Dec 1998 10:14:01 +0100, Frode Tenneboe said: At one point I asked David Braben to do a conversion. He said no. Uhm...explain? David Braben said no to me doign an conversion to the SAM. Am I still unclear?

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-10 Thread Edwin Blink
... Hmm...I was pretty sure about the contention, either every second block or page I seem to recall. However, it's been a while so I might be wrong. For the screen off, I am again wrong. :) I just remember using it on a mandelbrot generation program some years ago to speed up things. Thats

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-10 Thread Ian Dalziel
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Okay, okay... That does sound a bit bitchy to be honest! David? Bitchy? Surely not... -- Ian Dalziel

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-10 Thread PersonaHQ
If anyone is realy interested in doing a version of ELITE for the SAM, then send me a private e-mail, and I will put you in touch with the man who may be able to help you. M.D.L.M

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Frode Tenneboe
A *real* SAM version? That'd be nice :) Well, -at the risk of incurring the wrath of david braben - would anyone happen to have the source for Elite? At one point I asked David Braben to do a conversion. He said no. -Frode

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Frode Tenneboe
A *real* SAM version? That'd be nice :) Yeah. when using mode 4. How about a 3D vision version ( with a green(or blue) and red 3D glasses) ? In mode 4 at about 12 frames/sec? ;) -Frode Edwin Blink

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Robert van der Veeke
Van: Frode Tenneboe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: about that planned elite conversion Datum: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 10:45 when using mode 4. How about a 3D vision version ( with a green(or blue) and red 3D glasses) ? I messed with Red/Green 3D for while

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Frode Tenneboe
I messed with Red/Green 3D for while. With red and green it works best on a white-background so that would not be very usefull for Elite, maybe Blue and Red 3D works better, never tried that one. I messed with it quite a lot in the early days. The trouble is that different people percepts the

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Dave Hooper
I messed with Red/Green 3D for while. With red and green it works best on a white-background so that would not be very usefull for Elite, maybe Blue and Red 3D works better, never tried that one. i did some fun experiments and they worked great. used red/blue tho, and on a black background,

RE: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Smith, Gavin [IRE07:8939:EXCH]
hee hee hee - 12 sec/frame more like (anyone remember the F16 Interceptor demo?) Which reminds me - does anyone have this demo or has it been uploaded to NVG? I've been looking for it for ages (it's one of the few covertapes I don't have...which also reminds me - send me

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Ian Collier
On Wed, 9 Dec 1998 10:14:01 +0100, Frode Tenneboe said: At one point I asked David Braben to do a conversion. He said no. Last time you mentioned this I understood - wrongly it seems - that you had merely asked him for permission to do a conversion and he had said no. This puts a

RE: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Dave Hooper
i wrote a prog some time ago which reads in a speccy cassette via a PC's soundcard and converts it into a .TAP file on the pc. i'm wondering - does simcoupe support some kind of .TAP file? i could convert the demo this way since i still have the original cassette and i'm not sure if my sam still

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Frode Tenneboe
OnWed, 9 Dec 1998 10:14:01 +0100, Frode Tenneboe said: At one point I asked David Braben to do a conversion. He said no. Last time you mentioned this I understood - wrongly it seems - that you had merely asked him for permission to do a conversion and he had said no. This puts a

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Dave Hooper
At one point I asked David Braben to do a conversion. He said no. Uhm...explain? David Braben said no to me doign an conversion to the SAM. Am I still unclear? :) er... now i'm confused. did you or did you not ask Dave Braben to do the conversion? If you asked him for permission to do

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Frode Tenneboe
At one point I asked David Braben to do a conversion. He said no. Uhm...explain? David Braben said no to me doign an conversion to the SAM. Am I still unclear? :) er... now i'm confused. did you or did you not ask Dave Braben to do the conversion? If you asked him for permission

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Frode Tenneboe
snip... Possibly. But you might be able to do some clever stuff, but it will still be too slow. 6MHz is not enough for 24K of screen actually you might say 4.5 MHz. But with with at least 256K to waste some fast memory wasting routines would increase speed. The spectrum only had 48K

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Ian Collier
On Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:00:28 +0100, Frode Tenneboe said: 6MHz in theory. I can't remember the exact details, but I think it was possible to achieve speeds close to that by using uncontended banks and turning off the screen duing border updates. There are no uncontended banks on Sam unless

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Ian Collier
On Wed, 9 Dec 1998 14:17:17 +0100, Frode Tenneboe said: On Wed, 9 Dec 1998 10:14:01 +0100, Frode Tenneboe said: At one point I asked David Braben to do a conversion. He said no. Uhm...explain? David Braben said no to me doign an conversion to the SAM. Am I still unclear? :) OK, so

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Dave Hooper
since i'm, ahhhmm, more than a little out of touch with the sam 'scene', could someone tell me what, for the record, the difference actually is between the sam version and the real speccy version? Now that the Sam-hacked Speccy version is officially harmless I suppose a Sam Elite would be

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread David
: about that planned elite conversion since i'm, ahhhmm, more than a little out of touch with the sam 'scene', could someone tell me what, for the record, the difference actually is between the sam version and the real speccy version? Now that the Sam-hacked Speccy version is officially harmless I

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread David
PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09 December 1998 21:29 Subject: Re: about that planned elite conversion The SAM Version is actually the Spectrum version which has hacked code for saving and loading. Errr... I think that's the only change actually. Well it's a great bargain for 15 quid for a fab

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-09 Thread Colin Piggot
-Original Message- From: David [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: or u could just spend a few quid more for a REAL MODE 4 3D game I suppose Stratosphere anyone? ... Not just called the Best for nothing (See www.quazar.clara.net for more info). I couldn't have really said that better

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-08 Thread David
Ah, but some people are no-wimps are they Chris? ;) A *real* SAM version? That'd be nice :) -Original Message- From: Chris Pile [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 07 December 1998 22:40 Subject: Re: about that planned elite conversion -Original

about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-08 Thread S . D . Birchall
A *real* SAM version? That'd be nice :) Well, -at the risk of incurring the wrath of david braben - would anyone happen to have the source for Elite? I'm very interested in the anatomy of such a game, and being a self-confessed wimp, I don't mind passing over the kudos of reverse engineering

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-08 Thread Edwin Blink
A *real* SAM version? That'd be nice :) Yeah. when using mode 4. How about a 3D vision version ( with a green(or blue) and red 3D glasses) ? Edwin Blink

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-08 Thread Martin Fitzpatrick
[Edwin Blink] A *real* SAM version? That'd be nice :) Yeah. when using mode 4. How about a 3D vision version ( with a green(or blue) and red 3D glasses) ? i tried that once holding sheets of plastic (folder wallets) over my eyes and drawing different coloured lines on the screen it didn't

about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-07 Thread stu
Hi everyone, I remember a little while back, plans to do a conversion of Elite for the SAM. Is this any further down the road? Would you need the original source code for such a task? ttfn, Stu.

Re: about that planned elite conversion

1998-12-07 Thread Chris Pile
-Original Message- From: stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 07 December 1998 21:46 Subject: about that planned elite conversion Hi everyone, I remember a little while back, plans to do a conversion of Elite for the SAM. Is this any further down the road