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once again to all scholars who contributed their opinions in this regard. With regards - Dear Sanskrit-loving global family, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymF9myktxXohl=de In this cheerful rendering, we hear chAru-bhakShaNam instead of sAra-BhakShitam. With this shift from eaten to eating (sAra may remain from a grammatical point of view, I think), I personally see no grammatical incoherence. The syntactical structure seems to be a simple (S)-V-O structure (namAmi + 6 direct objects describing Lord Ganesha). Please correct me if I am wrong. By the way, its metre is vamshasthavilam, a 12-syllabled jagati with ja-ta-ja-ra pattern. Thank you for this sweet stuti. I have joyfully added it to my repertoire. Hera - -- Hari Narayana Bhat B.R. EFEO, PONDICHERRY -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/attachments/20091004/044779c2/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:39:36 +0530 From: hn bhat hnbha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 3 To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Message-ID: b1ef99310910032309i633013cbg16733a57de975...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 5. Advantages of learning Sanskrit (Anand) 6. Re: Advantages of learning Sanskrit (Shobha Saraiya) 7. Re: Advantages of learning Sanskrit (prasanna) 8. Re: Advantages of learning Sanskrit (Vimala Sarma) 10. Re: Advantages of learning Sanskrit (Su S.) Shobha- Ji All that is necessary is to say that Sa?skrit is the source of all Indo-European roots and has a rich culture and long history, great literature, and can be traced back to the vedic tradition. It is not necessary to over-embellish. Its grammar has some irregularities, it is not the source of all languages in the world and it is moot point on whether it originated in India or in a region in north west which subsequently spread to Iran and India. Even though it is concise, the religious literature can be repetitious and sometimes prone to over-exaggeration. We Indians like to think about the language as part of the religion, but this aspect may not be of interest to others. I am not sure about improvement in mathematical skills, logic, etc but I am willing to be persuaded. Any kind of memorization helps keep the mind in good order. Vimala I am certainly in agreement with the opinion of Mm. Vimala. 1.*Memory improvement - remembering large numbers through katyapayadi* 2. I*mprovement in mathematical skills* It is a technical tool to manage a coded writing useful in astrology and astronomy used in Sanskrit writing. It is not necessary to learn Sanskrit language, to memorize large numbers as there are wonderful personages who can calculate any number of multiplications within seconds are known even without the knowledge of Sanskrit. It depends upon the faculty of IQ one is endowed with and the training to the mind one gives. I remember, one lady Shakuntala was popular for calculating multiplication, division and any mathematical calculation remembering any large number within seconds she hears the problem. She had been interviewed by TVs and news reporters also, if my memory is correct But I have not heard that she endowed the faculty due to learning katapayadi system of Sanskrit. In our days there is another wonderful person also is reported who takes any scientific theories as football and Dr. Kalam was also amazed at her memory power who introduced her to Nasa Center in America. She had even attempted to emend many Scientific theories prevalent today by her amazing speed of understanding them and their shortcoming. It is not reported having any relation to Sanskrit learning; 2. *Improvement in pronunciation* Improvement in logical reasoning Understanding the hidden meanings of day to day words and thus learning our mother tongue better All the above do not have any direct relation or need not be a direct result of Sanskrit learning. But they are only intentional objectives desired by any person aspiring after pure pronunciation in any language. It is not specific for Sanskrit language. Learning Sanskrit language itself doesn't form any warranty of correct pronunciation unless the learner willfully correct his pronunciation according to the phonetical rules for articulation in the language whether it is Sanskrit or any other language. Hidden meanings are hidden only because one hasn't tried to understand them with the available tools and learning Sanskrit doesn't in any way help him unless he himself wants to dig up the meanings hidden to him. Only he has not bothered about the day-to-day words even though he used it. That is the only reason why they are hidden and not the absence of learning Sanskrit. Logical reasoning is obviously a faculty
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literature, and can be traced back to the vedic tradition. It is not necessary to over-embellish. Its grammar has some irregularities, it is not the source of all languages in the world and it is moot point on whether it originated in India or in a region in north west which subsequently spread to Iran and India. Even though it is concise, the religious literature can be repetitious and sometimes prone to over-exaggeration. We Indians like to think about the language as part of the religion, but this aspect may not be of interest to others. I am not sure about improvement in mathematical skills, logic, etc but I am willing to be persuaded. Any kind of memorization helps keep the mind in good order. Vimala *From:* sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] *On Behalf Of *Shobha Saraiya *Sent:* Saturday, 3 October 2009 1:53 AM *To:* Sanskrit Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Sanskrit] Advantages of learning Sanskrit Ananaji, I tell my students the following why they should learn samskritam. 1] All the Languages have come from Samskritam. 2] All our scriptures(i.e slokas,geetam, kritis..etc) are written in Samskritam, so it is important to know the meaning when one is reciting or chanting them. 3] When we listen the commentry translated from Samskritam to English or any other langauge the bhava or the original meaning gets lost. 4] Samskritam is the language of Gods and originated in India. 5] It is a very sweet and humble loving language. 7] The Grammer is so perfect...I am only a novice at learning Sanskrit and everyday I get amazed how perfect it is mathematically. No wonder it is close to computers. 6] And all the excellent reasonings below. _Shobha_. --- On *Fri, 10/2/09, Anand synet...@mtnl.net.in* wrote: From: Anand synet...@mtnl.net.in Subject: [Sanskrit] Advantages of learning Sanskrit To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 2:39 PM Dear Friends , I am putting together a little presentation on the advantages of learning Sanskrit in day to day life . Can you please help me by adding to the advantages and sharing examples . I am giving some application / advantages below . Memory improvement - remembering large numbers through katyapayadi Improvement in pronunciation Improvement in mathematical skills Improvement in logical reasoning Understanding the hidden meanings of day to day words and thus learning our mother tongue better Understanding the beauty underlying the religious poems and their coorelation to learning e. g. Ramo Rajamani sada vijayate .. connected to Vibhaktis Raising the just pride in our heritage Ease of realising philological and philosophical thoughts Quality of Conciseness Thanks in advance. Regards , Anand A. K. Ghurye ___ To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit and follow instructions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit and follow instructions. ___ To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit and follow instructions. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/attachments/20091004/fb37fdc9/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:50:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Dr P Narayanan ayurvedanaraya...@yahoo.co.in Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 54,Issue 3 umasutam - Clarification . reg To: Sanskrit Mailing List sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Message-ID: 297404.26773...@web95312.mail.in2.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 No, it is not the case. Only the avyaya word namaH is governed by the pANini rule namaHsvastisvAhAsvadhAlaMvashaDyogAcca (2.3.016). The root nam takes dvitIyA vibhakti. From: Vimala Sarma vsa...@bigpond.com To: Sanskrit Mailing List sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Sent: Mon, 5 October, 2009 6:15:21 AM Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 3 umasutam - Clarification . reg I realise now nam?mi must take dative, so I ma not sure now about my explanation. Vimala Keep up with people you care about with Yahoo! India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview.mail.yahoo.com/connectmore -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail