sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 4

2009-10-04 Thread sanskrit-request
 once again to all scholars who contributed their opinions in this
regard.

With regards
-

 Dear Sanskrit-loving global family,

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymF9myktxXohl=de

 In this cheerful rendering, we hear chAru-bhakShaNam instead of
 sAra-BhakShitam.

 With this shift from eaten to eating (sAra may remain from a grammatical
 point of view, I think), I personally see no grammatical incoherence.

 The syntactical structure seems to be a simple (S)-V-O structure (namAmi +
 6 direct objects describing Lord Ganesha). Please correct me if I am wrong.

 By the way, its metre is vamshasthavilam, a 12-syllabled jagati with
 ja-ta-ja-ra pattern.

 Thank you for this sweet stuti. I have joyfully added it to my repertoire.

 Hera

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-- 
Hari Narayana Bhat B.R.
EFEO,
PONDICHERRY
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   5. Advantages of learning Sanskrit (Anand)

  6. Re: Advantages of learning Sanskrit (Shobha Saraiya)
   7. Re: Advantages of learning Sanskrit (prasanna)
   8. Re: Advantages of learning Sanskrit (Vimala Sarma)
  10. Re: Advantages of learning Sanskrit (Su S.)

 Shobha- Ji

All that is necessary is to say that Sa?skrit is the source of all
Indo-European roots and has a rich culture and long history, great
literature, and can be traced back to the vedic tradition.  It is not
necessary to over-embellish.



Its grammar has some irregularities, it is not the source of all languages
in the world and it is moot point on whether it originated in India or in a
region in  north west which subsequently spread to Iran and India.  Even
though it is  concise, the religious literature can be repetitious and
sometimes prone to  over-exaggeration.  We Indians like to think about the
language as part of the religion, but this aspect may not be of interest to
others.  I am not sure about improvement in mathematical skills, logic, etc
but I am willing to be persuaded.  Any kind of memorization helps keep the
mind in good order.

Vimala
I am certainly in agreement with the opinion of Mm. Vimala.

 1.*Memory improvement - remembering large numbers through katyapayadi*
 2. I*mprovement in mathematical skills*

It is a technical tool to manage a coded writing useful in astrology and
astronomy used in Sanskrit writing.
It is not necessary to learn Sanskrit language, to memorize large numbers as
there are wonderful personages who can calculate any number of
multiplications within seconds are known even without the knowledge of
Sanskrit. It depends upon the faculty of IQ one is endowed with and the
training to the mind one gives. I remember, one lady Shakuntala was popular
for calculating multiplication, division and any mathematical calculation
remembering any large number within seconds she hears the problem. She had
been interviewed by TVs and news reporters also, if my memory is correct But
I have not heard that she endowed the faculty due to learning katapayadi
system of Sanskrit. In our days there is another wonderful person also is
reported who takes any scientific theories as football and Dr. Kalam was
also amazed at her memory power who introduced her to Nasa Center in
America. She had even attempted to emend many Scientific theories prevalent
today by her amazing speed of understanding them and their shortcoming. It
is not reported having any relation to Sanskrit learning;

 2. *Improvement in pronunciation*

 Improvement in logical reasoning

Understanding the hidden meanings of day to day words and thus learning our
 mother tongue better


All the above do not have any direct relation or need not be a direct result
of Sanskrit learning. But they are only intentional objectives desired by
any person aspiring after pure pronunciation in any language. It is not
specific for Sanskrit language. Learning Sanskrit language itself doesn't
form any warranty of correct pronunciation unless the learner willfully
correct his pronunciation according to the phonetical rules for articulation
in the language whether it is Sanskrit or any other language. Hidden
meanings are hidden only because one hasn't tried to understand them with
the available tools and learning Sanskrit doesn't in any way help him unless
he himself wants to dig up the meanings hidden to him. Only he has not
bothered about the day-to-day words even though he used it. That is the only
reason why they are hidden and not the absence of learning Sanskrit.
Logical reasoning is obviously a faculty

sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 5

2009-10-04 Thread sanskrit-request
 literature, and can be traced back to the vedic tradition.  It is not
 necessary to over-embellish.



 Its grammar has some irregularities, it is not the source of all languages
 in the world and it is moot point on whether it originated in India or in a
 region in  north west which subsequently spread to Iran and India.  Even
 though it is  concise, the religious literature can be repetitious and
 sometimes prone to  over-exaggeration.  We Indians like to think about the
 language as part of the religion, but this aspect may not be of interest to
 others.  I am not sure about improvement in mathematical skills, logic, etc
 but I am willing to be persuaded.  Any kind of memorization helps keep the
 mind in good order.



 Vimala



 *From:* sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu]
 *On Behalf Of *Shobha Saraiya
 *Sent:* Saturday, 3 October 2009 1:53 AM
 *To:* Sanskrit Mailing List
 *Subject:* Re: [Sanskrit] Advantages of learning Sanskrit



 Ananaji,



 I tell my students the following why they should learn samskritam.



 1] All the Languages have come from Samskritam.

 2] All our scriptures(i.e slokas,geetam, kritis..etc) are written in
 Samskritam, so it is important to know the meaning when one is  reciting or
 chanting them.



 3] When we listen the commentry translated from Samskritam to English or
 any other langauge the bhava or the original meaning gets lost.



 4] Samskritam is the language of Gods and originated in India.



 5] It is a very sweet and humble loving language.



 7] The Grammer is so perfect...I am only a novice at learning Sanskrit and
 everyday

 I get amazed how perfect  it is mathematically. No wonder it is close
 to computers.



 6] And all the excellent reasonings  below.



 _Shobha_.

 --- On *Fri, 10/2/09, Anand synet...@mtnl.net.in* wrote:


 From: Anand synet...@mtnl.net.in
 Subject: [Sanskrit] Advantages of learning Sanskrit
 To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
 Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 2:39 PM

 Dear Friends ,

 I am putting together a little presentation on the advantages of learning
 Sanskrit in day to day life . Can you please help me by adding to the
 advantages and sharing examples . I am giving some application / advantages

 below .


 Memory improvement - remembering large numbers through katyapayadi

 Improvement in pronunciation

 Improvement in mathematical skills

 Improvement in logical reasoning

 Understanding the hidden meanings of day to day words and thus learning our

 mother tongue better

 Understanding the beauty underlying the religious poems and their
 coorelation to learning e. g. Ramo Rajamani sada vijayate ..
 connected to Vibhaktis

 Raising the just pride in our heritage

 Ease of realising philological and philosophical thoughts

 Quality of Conciseness



 Thanks in advance.

 Regards ,

 Anand

 A. K. Ghurye
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Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:50:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dr P Narayanan ayurvedanaraya...@yahoo.co.in
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 54,Issue 3 umasutam -
Clarification . reg
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No, it is not the case. Only the avyaya word namaH is governed by the pANini 
rule namaHsvastisvAhAsvadhAlaMvashaDyogAcca (2.3.016). The root nam takes 
dvitIyA vibhakti.





From: Vimala Sarma vsa...@bigpond.com
To: Sanskrit Mailing List sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Sent: Mon, 5 October, 2009 6:15:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 3 umasutam - 
Clarification . reg

 
I realise now nam?mi must take dative, so I ma not sure now
about my explanation.
Vimala


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