[SC-L] more relevant certifications

2009-03-20 Thread SC-L Reader Dave Aronson
Paco Hope p...@cigital.com wrote: just as overly-simplistic as someone who disparages all credentials equally. On that note... my company (BAE Systems) has been pushing for people to become CISSPs, because in turn the main client (US gov) has been pushing for contractors to have a bunch of

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM: Confessions of a Software Security Alchemist(informIT)

2009-03-20 Thread Benjamin Tomhave
I would argue that the security 'bugs' you've described are in fact functional deficiencies in the implemented design. That is, the exploit of them has a direct impact on functional performance of the application, even if it's just a problem with error handling (input validation). I would further

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM: Confessions of a Software Security Alchemist (informIT)

2009-03-20 Thread kowsik
I have to post this blog in response. http://labs.mudynamics.com/2008/07/14/zen-and-the-art-of-fixing-p1-bugs Love the security testing IS functional testing, BTW. K. --- http://www.pcapr.net On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Benjamin Tomhave list-s...@secureconsulting.net wrote: Why are we

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM: Confessions of a Software Security Alchemist(informIT)

2009-03-20 Thread Benjamin Tomhave
So, what you're saying is that security bugs are really design flaws, assuming a perfect implementation of the design. Ergo, security bug is at best a misnomer, and at worst a fatal deficiency in design acumen. :) -ben Goertzel, Karen [USA] wrote: Except when they're hardware bugs. :) I

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM: Confessions of a Software SecurityAlchemist(informIT)

2009-03-20 Thread Pravir Chandra
Well, it seems that there's an interesting nuance here. We don't really have a concrete definition for what software is (code, design, compiled bins, etc.). All of these things plus the subjective expectations from designers, users, and security folks tend to be the domain for how the term is

Re: [SC-L] more relevant certifications

2009-03-20 Thread Goertzel, Karen [USA]
I would refer you to Section 7.2.2.2, Professional Certifications, starting on page 272 of Software Security Assurance: A State-of-the-Art Report which can be downloaded from: http://iac.dtic.mil/iatac/download/security.pdf The report was published in July 2007; there may be additional