the lines
work or not.
When the two theater groups I worked with left town that was the end of that--
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Nora made the most cogent point, given Hopkinson's
comments...but
no
one has responded to it:
On Jun 1, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Nora wrote:
I think I responded to it. She thinks it is a disservice.
I
I don't think she is a sellout. I think she is perhaps a fraud
and is definitely a liar.
Why?
Sometime back there was some unpleasantness in Georgia. There was
this all white county that didn't want black people even going
through it. Forsythe county was the name.
Hosea Williams and
Art:
I hate people who quote from movies.
That said, I will quote from a movie.
Just because you said that with conviction don't mean squat.
Love him or hate him, the Notorious BIG of SF knows how to get a
discussion going--which is more than I can say for you.
Another quote
Contemplate all
What the heck does risible mean? I get a rise from it all?
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Chris Hayden Frofidemus@
wrote:
Don't forget the Canadian label, also.
Never forget
Just got done reading
Carole,
I've done lots of theatre with people all over the world--getting
them to tell their own stories, put themselves on stage--and it is
very amazing to experience the change in the audience when they see
themselves when before they couldn't find themselves for looking.
I am interested
YES, YES, YES!! HHH YES Especially on the Jesse Jackson
bit. Gosh, that guy has self-importance and self-appointment and self-
coronation up the wazoo. -C
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wrote:
First, I find the very titling of this thread to
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Hopkinson sells out?
First, I find the very titling of this thread to be exceptionally
offensive. To have the audacity to even pose this as a question is to
evidence an arrogance bordering on psychopathy.
Unless you spend your day
Okay, me! Me! I'll start first. If I were to be part of a movement, I'd
start a movement of Christian ethnic specfic writers. Just because
that's what I like: specfic, Christian religious fantasy, and
ethnicity. So that's me. I'm kinda tired of the western world...and as
a reviewer I'm always
On Jun 3, 2006, at 10:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nora made the most cogent point, given Hopkinson's comments...but no
one has responded to it:
On Jun 1, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Nora wrote:
I think I responded to it. She thinks it is a disservice. I do
not.
Let us be Frank. Nalo
Good grief! I wonder if there are white authors who rag on each other
about seeling out. I suppose only ethnic and minority writers can be
accused of selling out -- or maybe a white writer who belongs to some
disenfranchised group like when Chabon decided he wasn't gay-- but come
now: this
BTW, sorry to mention Oprah. She was the only interviewer who came to
my mind and I know a few folks on this list probably already think Miss
O is a sell-out because of her primarily white middle-class core
audience.
No one thinks Oprah is a sellout. She's just being herself. That's
First, I find the very titling of this thread to be exceptionally
offensive. To have the audacity to even pose this as a question is to
evidence an arrogance bordering on psychopathy.
Unless you spend your day job working to accelerate human evolution
towards outgrowing ego and it's attendant
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Didn't know they had a blog that would allow interaction with them.
What movement are they selling out to??
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From: Dr. Lester K Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:59:12 -0400
Subject: Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Hopkinson sells out?
Nora made the most cogent point, given Hopkinson's comments...but no
one has responded
was trying not to be labeled.
Tracey
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Nora made the most cogent point, given
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Nora made the most cogent point, given Hopkinson's comments...but
no
one has responded to it:
On Jun 1, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Nora wrote:
I think I
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Chris Hayden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Don't forget the Canadian label, also.
Never forget
Just got done reading through this thread. It's very risible. Mr.
Hayden, you SO do not know Nalo Hopkinson. I'm done.
Community email addresses:
Why not?
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, sancochojo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Depends on how you define movement in respect to the topic of
this
discussion. I think she acknowledges afrofuturism, but why call
it a
movement?
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Chris Hayden
Do you write say the Wachowski brothers a personal note if you
have a comment about the Matrix novels?
I started to post on her blog, you gotta go through some rigamarole
to register to do it, I am registered on enough stuff on the web, I
decided not to do it. End of story.
She never saw
I am not angry. I am stating a possibility. Most people sell out
when somebody names their price. It is part of becoming an adult. I
am not assigning a value judgment to it.
Her blog does sound suspiciously like the kind of talk I hear from
artists, actors musicians when people start
Like I said, leave the movements for the activist.
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Chris Hayden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Why not?
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, sancochojo mccartjf@
wrote:
Depends on how you define movement in respect to the topic of
this
So let me get this straight (no pun intended if she has her hair
straightened on relaxed she is a sell out??? if I decide at the end of
the summer that I am tired of wearing a fro and i want to get a relaxer,
I'm a sell out too? Seems to me that are some pretty superficial
criteria for
Check again. That is not from Amazon. That is from the Afrofuturism
website
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly
Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those are amazon affiliate links amazon books sales. You do not
need
the authors permission for that.
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly
Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So let me get this straight (no pun intended
It took me a while to get that one. Curled my toes
if she has her hair
straightened on relaxed she is a sell out??? if I decide
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, sancochojo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Like I said, leave the movements for the activist.
No. And neither did any of these guys
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_(literature)
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Do you write say the Wachowski brothers a personal note if you
have a comment about the Matrix novels?
If they have a blog, yes.
I started to post on her blog, you
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Chris Hayden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, sancochojo mccartjf@
wrote:
Like I said, leave the movements for the activist.
No. And neither did any of these guys
The link to her book, Brown Girl in the Ring goes to the following link:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0446674338/vietnamgeneratioA/
They do not need her permission to do that
TRacey
Chris Hayden wrote:
Check again. That is not from Amazon. That is from the Afrofuturism
website
Nora made the most cogent point, given Hopkinson's comments...but no
one has responded to it:
On Jun 1, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Nora wrote:
I think it's a disservice, both to authors and to this nascent
movement, to
hijack people into it. A movement doesn't *need* to go hunting for
members,
Depends on how you define movement in respect to the topic of this
discussion. I think she acknowledges afrofuturism, but why call it a
movement?
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Chris Hayden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
My subject line may be a tad provacative--
But I am in a quandry.
My subject line may be a tad provacative--
But I am in a quandry. Does Hopkinson believe there is no such thing
as a movement called Afrofuturism? Or does she believe there is one
and she is not part of it? Or does she believe that there is
something called Afrofuturism which is not a
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