oh, ok.
the part where he quoted from my post had me confused.
bob
Perhaps this unnatural leaping is a clue that Ian was not responding to
your message, but to things he has heard elsewhere?
Aye, tis at tha!
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jwa wrote:
oh, ok.
the part where he quoted from my post had me confused.
bob
It's very easy to get confused as to who said what when there is a
thread with lot's of posts and quoting like this one on Burns.
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the above.
bob
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Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: [scots-l] Was Burns a racist?
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Derek Hoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I played in a show several years ago about his life (sponsored by the Post
Office :) It is crying out to be turned into a screenplay.
Incidentally, there is a Scottish country dance called Indian Peter's
Reel, devised by the
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:37:15 +, David Kilpatrick wrote:
Buchan's note implies that it might well have involved ANY children, of
ANY families. Given the strong family ties present in any town, even as
big as Aberdeen, and the propensity of families for direct revenge it
seems unlikely that
Was Burns a racist? Just before his Kilmarnock edition came out - his first
collection of poems - he hoped that the money from it would be enough to
start a new life in Jamaica as a 'Negro-driver', a slave owner. Was it a
case of, 'A man's a man for a that - exept negroes'? Did he change his
Jack Campin wrote:
Peter Williamson, aka "Indian Peter", who went on to set up a postal
service and published the first postal directory of Edinburgh. See
Kay's "Edinburgh Portraits", or pretty much any book about 18th century
Edinburgh, he was a very well-known character. He turned into
David asked:
Do I take it, basically, that Peter Buchan's notes to his Ballads in
1828 are as badly researched as they are badly written? Williamson's
story, and Buchan's notes, bear hallmarks of exaggeration and maybe the
magistrates of Aberdeen were quite right to burn his book.
Peter
In a message dated 1/16/01 3:09:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
In Maryland, at least, they are beautifully indexed, so you're not hunting
needles in haystacks looking for reference to your folks.
I'm in Maryland, but my Grandfather lived most of his life in
Are you really comparing being a Negro-driver to working for a brokerage
firm? That latter might be closer to being an exiseman. But a slave owner?
OK, maybe you were only kidding...
Rob
I was kidding... though as I think about it now it's not entirely off-base, since in
the
context of
Was the slave ship anything to do with negroes?
All the comments about Gaelic slaves are really interesting and I hope to
read more about them on this List. Keep them coming.
However, I orginally asked about Burns the 'Negro-driver' - no Gaels
mentioned there, nor in his 'Slaves Lament' which
In a message dated 1/16/01 4:28:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He may have thought, in an
idealised moment, that slavery was wrong, but he obviously was prepared to
accept it and engage himself in its practices had his poems failed to sell.
Reminds one of Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
whether they
decided to stay or go home once freed
Now this is a piece of the puzzle we had lost! My Grandfather's grandparents
must have (might have?) gone back to Scotland. 'cause the thing that has
confused me is how his grandparents were here, yet he was
Susan Tichy wrote:
...or thought in a despairing moment that he would have to do whatever
offered itself... much as a musician might contemplate a brokerage firm
on a really, really bad day.
Are you really comparing being a Negro-driver to working for a brokerage
firm? That latter might be
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Gaelic speaking Scottish slaves, children rounded up by the burgesses of
the port towns and shipped to the Americas for cash.
This is really interesting to me. My grandfather Ogilvie always told me his
grandparents came to this country as indentured servants or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Gaelic speaking Scottish slaves, children rounded up by the burgesses of
the port towns and shipped to the Americas for cash.
This is really interesting to me. My grandfather Ogilvie always told me his
grandparents came to this
Cynthia wrote:
This is really interesting to me. My grandfather Ogilvie always told me his
grandparents came to this country as indentured servants or sharecroppers,
and then he'd snort and say, "which meant SLAVERY!" The deal,as he told it,
was that eventually you could purchase yourself,
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