Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-06.txt

2013-09-09 Thread Murphy, Sandra
[morrowc.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:54 PM To: Stephen Kent Cc: g...@ietf.org g...@ietf.org; sidr Subject: Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-06.txt On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Stephen Kent k...@bbn.com wrote: Dave, Fair questions for a somewhat

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-06.txt

2013-09-06 Thread Dave Mitchell
That's exactly what I meant to say. :) Apologies. Been a long, long week. Being new to the IETF process, but not the industry, I have some confusion about GROW I-D's as they can sometimes be very similar or partially overlapping with IDR and SIDR drafts. Just trying to understand which WG's

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-06.txt

2013-09-06 Thread Stephen Kent
Dave, This is just a cleanup pass on this doc, to address IESG comments. The doc dates back to June, 2011. So, perhaps you mean to say that your doc is related to his one :-). Steve Seems related to our draft on MITM attacks with BGPSEC lacking path validation, but expands on other attack

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-06.txt

2013-09-06 Thread Stephen Kent
Dave, Fair questions for a somewhat complex environment. SIDR develops security standards for inter-domain routing, working within the context of BGP standards developed by IDR. GROW has more of an operations focus, and is intended to provide input to IDR. So, your doc on route leaks, if

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-06.txt

2013-09-06 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Stephen Kent k...@bbn.com wrote: Dave, Fair questions for a somewhat complex environment. SIDR develops security standards for inter-domain routing, working within the context of BGP standards developed by IDR. GROW has more of an operations focus, and is

[sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-06.txt

2013-09-05 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : Threat Model for BGP Path Security Author(s) : Stephen Kent

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-06.txt

2013-09-05 Thread Dave Mitchell
Seems related to our draft on MITM attacks with BGPSEC lacking path validation, but expands on other attack vectors. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-grow-simple-leak-attack-bgpsec-no-help/ Thanks. -d On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:36 PM, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: A New