The whole silly micro-debate over wattage evolved from this simple mis-
statement by Sunny...
Is that 2 watts an hour? sounds great!
Trem had answered:
2 WATTS
Sunny previously asked:
Does anyone know how many watts a silver gen or similar might use.
We are moving off grid ... getting a
John writes:
Plastic draws the silver to the sides of the plastic bottle. If used
for your horses (or humans) and don't store in glass, use as quickly as
possible. Amber bottles, I feel are best, and stored in a dark cabinet
away fron light and the sun and your CSW can last a long, long
Heya Mike:)
It's good to hear from you:)
Errr, what's wrong with regular old fashioned pint
size, and quart size, glass canning jars? They're
cheap too.
You're right, of course, Annie. The only drawback I ever saw in them
was the tendency of the lids to eventually rust on the inside.
Calm down folks. Steve Barwick/Spencer Jones (same guy) is not a
reliable source of news about CS. He writes a lot of scaremongering
rubbish, probably with the aim of boosting sales of his second rate
generators. Europe hasn't banned the sale of colloidal silver
although thats what
Oh Thank Heavens! I've never seen a report on his
reliability. Thank you. So now I know to discount
much of what he says.
Annie
Not everything that counts can be counted, and
not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign
hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton)
Alchemysa wrote:
Calm
Heya Mike:)
It's good to hear from you:)
Errr, what's wrong with regular old fashioned pint
size, and quart size, glass canning jars? They're
cheap too.
Annie
Not everything that counts can be counted, and
not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign
hanging in Einstein's office at
Never has for menor have I heard of it before.
Ode
At 09:45 AM 1/13/2010 -0600, you wrote:
Several of my family have been battling bronchitis for the last week or
so. My husband put some CS in a teaspoon, and inhaled it.
He did this maybe 4 times over the last few days, and now says
Someone on the list said they were new to CS, and ask if anyone had info on its
use. I found this article, which I think is good, so am forwarding it on.
http://utopiasilver.com/laymansguide.htm
I read that chondroitin is too big a molecule to get through the tissues, and
is an over-priced waste of money. dee
On 13 Jan 2010, at 11:01, arthur rambo wrote:
I went through one bottle so far, of Jarrow True CMO, and have not
experienced any benefit so far. I am using Knox gelatin,
It is a good article, but the part in this article which discusses chloride in
the blood and hydrochloric acid in the stomach rendering ionic silver inactive
is still open to conjecture as far as I know as there was an hypothesis
regarding ammonia in the body counteracting that to a degree put
I'm sorry John, but this is so wrong! If you are making stable EIS as most of
us do on this list, then the silver will stay clear in plastic clear bottles
for ever almost! There is NO need to use glass OR amber bottles at all. dee
On 13 Jan 2010, at 23:13, John E. Stevens wrote:
Plastic
Dee:
I totally disagree with you. Glass and preferably dark amber colored glass
is the only I will ever store my CSW. I'm not interested in getting a
little estrogen from BPH (bephenols) from plastic containers. I use no
plastic to store food in the fridge - only glass, There is no safer way
But aren't these essential minerals? dee
On 14 Jan 2010, at 02:24, Day Sutton wrote:
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:
How about, 'Any info that supports this claim?'
You are right not to believe anything you hear or read without doing your
own
I agree with Dee on this one. There's also an outside chance that
chondroitin may also cause certain cancers. I'm waiting for more reorts on
this one.
John
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:07 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:
I read that chondroitin is too big a molecule to get through
Thanks for that reassuring post David! dee
On 14 Jan 2010, at 08:28, Alchemysa wrote:
Calm down folks. Steve Barwick/Spencer Jones (same guy) is not a reliable
source of news about CS. He writes a lot of scaremongering rubbish, probably
with the aim of boosting sales of his second rate
I've been using Zicam rapidmelts for the past couple of years (not so much
after finding out about CS this fall) and I've had no problem. Of course that's
not the nasal version.
Snopes finding is Undetermined. http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/zicam.asp
Zicam is a big sponser of Rush
Well that's you against almost everyone else on this list then! As Mike said,
its ok that *you* will only use this method but its different when you are
telling others that this is the ONLY correct way, when it isn't! dee
On 14 Jan 2010, at 13:20, John E. Stevens wrote:
Dee:
I totally
Hey, Dee:
So it's against everyone else on this list. so what? Bothers me not...
Ha... Ha... I said it's *the only way I will store my CS.* What others do
is their business. I don't trust plastics in any form or or matter and I do
not use them - but that's just me... what others do, they
Thanks for the info
Cubby
In a message dated 1/14/2010 6:27:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tanke...@iland.net writes:
Someone on the list said they were new to CS, and ask if anyone had info
on its use. I found this article, which I think is good, so am forwarding
it on.
I haven't heard that expression sine my dad passed away. Only he always
said a sharp stick. :-)
Samala,
Renee
---Original Message---
, better than a poke in the eye with a blunt stick
I am not arguing the point but I am curious. If EIS caused bluing of your
fingernails the same as Marshall shows, how would you describe it to others?
- Steve
From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed
http://www.newsmaxhealth.com/health_stories/loss_smell_Alzheimers/2010/01/14/308391.html
--
Day Sutton
day.sut...@gmail.com
Glass is good. Bet you didn't know that Chrystal will leach lead out did
you?
--
Day Sutton
day.sut...@gmail.com
John E. Stevens wrote:
Plastic draws the silver to the sides of the plastic bottle. If used
for your horses (or humans) and don't store in glass, use as quickly
as possible. Amber bottles, I feel are best, and stored in a dark
cabinet away fron light and the sun and your CSW can last a long,
The spelling is biphenol, specifically biphenol A. It is used in many
plastics, but is not used in polyethylene, which is the plastic of
choice for CS and the one we use. Specifically it is used in
polyesters, polysulones, polycarbonates, PVC and epoxies. Specifically
PET, HDPE, LDPE,
My daughter, my wife and I all have developed the gray moons. None of
use use alcohol or illegal drugs or anything else out of the ordinary.
We all developed them at the same time, when I switched from 5 ppm CS to
20 ppm CS. The darkness of the moons is proportional to the amount of
CS
Marshall,
Does the grey moon start at the top of the moon and progress towards the
inner nail as it gets more pronounced?
Thanks,
Steve N
-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 7:55 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
The moons are gray. Initially only the moons were grey, starting at the
root and progressing out. Over time it progressed until the gray
actually now extends past the moons. The color is different though
because the moons are pure gray, but outside the moons you have the pink
underlaying the
Perhaps this guy is working with the administration to promulgate that the
'stimulus package' has created or saved 2 million jobs, while at the same time
US unemployment keeps rising.
--- On Thu, 1/14/10, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
Isn't it biSphenol?
Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
=
The spelling is biphenol, specifically biphenol A. It is used in many
plastics, but is not used in polyethylene, which is the plastic of
choice for CS and the one we use. Specifically it is used in
Hi Everyone, I'm new here and am interested in hearing from anyone who has
successfully (or not) treated their asthma using CS and/or DMSO.
I just started nebulizing CS and lobelia extract a few days ago.
I'd love to hear what protocols people have tried.
Thanks! Lisa Marie
The graying on my children's and wife's nails is totally within the
moons. It starts at the root of the nail and progresses out toward the
edge of the moon, and eventually outside the moon over time. There does
not seem to be a significant amount of drop off in the coloring from the
root to
Marshall,
Thanks so much for the detailed description. Now, do the discolored moons
concern you? Are you planning on changing your strategy? I'm curious how or
if you are planning on addressing this.
My goal is to optimize my health without having indications like this that may
have
I've put CS up my nose dozens of times without any side effects whatsoever.
Stings for a few minutes, but that's all.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: CSCS and sense of
Marshall Dudley schrieb:
gallon to use to soak my horse's feet? Should I throw away the
half gallon I have stored in plastic for the last month?
TIA,
Teresa
I have stored CS in hd polyethylene for months and in some cases years
with no dicernable effect. All plastics are not the same, which
HI Lisa! I had asthma/copd. Baught a Silver Puppy. Started spraying my throat
and nostrils a few times a couple of times a day. Plus 1 shot under my tongue.
I had instant success. Then i baught a nebulizer. That seemed to go deaper and
more results. Used it a few times. Went to see my Dr. at
Thanks for the info Larry. Wow, what great results! I started nebulizing
Utopia Naturals Ionic Silver (20 ppm) twice a day a few days ago and it seemed
to help at first but today I'm a little worse again. I'm nebulizing about 3 mL
twice a day.
I can't really see myself making cs at this
Interesting. dee
On 14 Jan 2010, at 15:03, Day Sutton wrote:
http://www.newsmaxhealth.com/health_stories/loss_smell_Alzheimers/2010/01/14/308391.html
--
Day Sutton
day.sut...@gmail.com
Everyone to their own...
John
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:26 AM, slickpic...@cox.net wrote:
Isn't it biSphenol?
Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
=
The spelling is biphenol, specifically biphenol A. It is used in many
plastics, but is not used in polyethylene,
Steve G wrote:
Marshall,
Thanks so much for the detailed description. Now, do the discolored
moons concern you?
Not really. Others in my family are more concerned.
Are you planning on changing your strategy?
I no longer take CS as a preventative. I take D3 instead and have found
the
That's fairly common knowledge about crystal. I've only known that for
about 40 years... but thanks for the input.
John
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote:
Glass is good. Bet you didn't know that Chrystal will leach lead out did
you?
--
Day Sutton
Guenter Poelz schrieb:
Marshall Dudley schrieb:
gallon to use to soak my horse's feet? Should I throw away the
half gallon I have stored in plastic for the last month?
TIA,
Teresa
I have stored CS in hd polyethylene for months and in some cases years
with no dicernable effect. All plastics
Not in the field of chemistry. Biphenol and bisphenol are different things.
Bisphenol A is the compound used in plastics that has caused concern.
TW
John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com wrote:
=
Everyone to their own...
John
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:26 AM,
Well, that clarifies it ...I think
I have a purplish darkening of the area immediately above the moons
but the moons look fine to me.
I'm sure it is not a vascular problem, it is probably from the silver.
Perhaps the moons actually are affected,
but they look the same as ever to me.
Dan
On
Do you know if this is in the PET 1 plastic? thanks. dee
On 14 Jan 2010, at 18:20, slickpic...@cox.net wrote:
Not in the field of chemistry. Biphenol and bisphenol are different things.
Bisphenol A is the compound used in plastics that has caused concern.
TW
--
The Silver List is
It was a c+p but had a fda link which I did not check out. I just saw this
thread and had just gotten this email from another group.
http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm
- Original Message -
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
To:
A friend sent this out as a herbal mix to smoke in place of tobacco... you
might want to pass it on to smoking friends who want to quit..
Smoke in place of tobacco products, in either a pipe or rolled with rolling
papers. It is pleasantly fragrant while burning. Alternatively, brew as you
Hey all you health seekers,
I've got a few questions about silver before I buy my machine.. as I'm gonna
get all the associated 'stuff' as well..
1. STORAGE I'm thinking I should store in glass. I just washed out a nice
apple juice glass bottle with a handle and thought should the glass be
I have a diminished sense of smell from HCV, never goes away completely. Also
some loss of taste, increases/decreases. 12-15 years that I have tracked.
From: Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
To: Silver Post silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010
Sunny,
#2 NEVER wash the production or storage vessels with liquid soap or
detergent. They contain surfactant which is very difficult to remove. Rinse
with hot tap water. Do NOT use any vessel that has contained acidic items such
as pickles or tomatoes. The acid is very hard to remove.
MaryAnn, Sunny, and Dave D. each just sent a message that (barely)
busted the message size limit for the list, which is 18k bytes.
That amounts to a page or two of fancy formatted text, and up to a
dozen pages or so of plain-text. Add any kind of graphics or
attachments and all bets are off!
Thanks so it's new production and storage jars..OK.. I actually googled
'vwaals' then realized it was vessls' fingers one key over... ha ha
A peek into our world..
Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All
Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest
Okay, folks! I'm glad I happened to be here and able to deal with this
more or less in real-time. I've blocked Larry until he can explain his
outburst to my satisfaction and convince me it won't be repeated.
Trem, I certainly saw nothing to justify this, so please accept my
apology as your host.
Yes, if you put even your one-liner with several pages of quoted text,
the whole package will quickly exceed the limit. I recommend making it
a habit to delete most quoted text and include just enough of the
original to establish the context of your answer.
Mike? Mine were one-liners. Could it
Deborah wrote:
How old did you say you are Larry?
Now now, let's settle down! wink He's not here to hear you, anyway.
Stuff like this happens... Thankfully it's pretty rare in this
community.
At this point, the less energy expended in this direction, the better,
as far as I'm concerned.
[None of use use alcohol or illegal drugs or anything else out of the ordinary.]
-I would hope you didn't misunderstand me there Marshall, I certainly never had
that in mind.
N.
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:54:42 -0500
From: mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:
So much for automatic spell checking. I need to proofread before sending.
Trem
- Original Message -
From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: CSA few more questions about CS production
Thanks so it's
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:04:58 -0800
From: sunwatercl...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSA few more questions about CS production
Hey all you health seekers,
I've got a few questions about silver before I buy my machine.. as I'm gonna
get all the associated 'stuff'
Hey Trem -- how about vodka??? I store my CS in beautiful cobalt blue Sky
vodka bottles!! There's no acid in vodka, is there?
MA
From: TREM t...@silvergen.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 3:12:09 PM
Subject: Re: CSA few more
Re:
CSLoss of Smell Signals Alzheim [ arthur rambo
alqui...@yahoo.com ]
I have read a number of times in recent years that senior citizens'
ability to smell often decreases, or vanishes altogether. I also
have read that it may be a precursor to Alzheimers' Disease. It
can't be helped by CS, but
Hi Mary Ann,
Good choice as long as you don't wash them. Just rinse.
Trem
- Original Message -
From: MaryAnn Helland
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: CSA few more questions about CS production
Hey Trem -- how about
Trem, i don't know who you are or what you think you are. But your a moronic
low cast dispicable low life! If you can't post a notice or question. In normal
type and in a civil manner. I don't think you should be welcome here! What ever
or who ever created you. Needs to put you back in the test
WOAH...!! SOMEONE got out on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
Hope your day ends better than it started.
Smile, it may never happen!
Things just keep getting better all the time here aye? g.
{Sorry Boss, this was just too good to pass up, gotta crank that sense of
humour up once
Wow. Where did that come from?
MA
From: Larry Biggar lbig...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 8:19:04 PM
Subject: Re: CSA few more questions about CS production
Trem, i don't know who you are or what you think you are. But
Mike? Mine were one-liners. Could it be because Sunny's message was included
at the bottom of my remarks to Trem? And because Sunny's message was long and
in huge letters? If so, I need to trim my posts.
MA
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
To:
LOL Neville... I'm trying to think how the saying 'Happy as
Larry' would fit in but cranky was cranked more so.
I hope Larry knows not only how to bark but also how to
apologise.
At 01:32 PM 15/01/2010, you wrote:
WOAH...!! SOMEONE got out on the
wrong side of the bed this morning?
Hope your
Wow. Where did that come from?
MA
From: Larry Biggar lbig...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 8:19:04 PM
Subject: Re: CSA few more questions about CS production
Trem, i don't know who you are or what you think you are. But
How old did you say you are Larry?
From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 10:14:16 PM
Subject: Fw: CSA few more questions about CS production
Wow. Where did that come from?
MA
Sorry for the double post. I thought the original didn't come through because
of the afore-mentioned size limitations, so I trimmed it all out and sent it
through again. Sigh. But still...Wow!! Where did that come from?
MA
From: MaryAnn Helland
Hi there Hanneke,
LOL...Strike me lucky!, the first thing that sprang to mind when reading that
was old Mo McCackie (Roy Rene).
N.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:39:31 +1030
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
From: bloss...@internode.on.net
Subject: RE: CSCop that young Harry!!
LOL Neville...
What kind of sauce would you like sir...
sorry Mike..lol
attachment: foot in mouth.jpg
I can do that. (And did, actually). But had no idea that the quoted text
comprised several pages. How would one recognize that?
MA
P.S. Glad you were onboard to deal with Larry's remarks. Holy cow.
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
To:
At 08:31 AM 1/14/2010, you wrote:
John E. Stevens wrote:
Plastic draws the silver to the sides of the plastic bottle.
That happens to my glass brewing jars, over long periods of time
without cleaning the jar (usually when I have had to use less than
ideal distilled water) and has happened
At 09:04 AM 1/14/2010, you wrote:
Does the grey moon start at the top of the moon and progress towards the
inner nail as it gets more pronounced?
I'm not Marshall, but I'm sending you a photo of my thumbnail. Let me
know what you think.
sol
--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for
Oops, am I showing my age or what?
A blunt stick won't hurt as much I guess, unless one's into toasting
marshmallows...there's a visual for ya g.
N.
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:41:34 -0600
From: gaiac...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSTo believe or not to believe?
Ok, please forgive my ignorance. We do have a dishwasher, and I have been
using quart mason jars,
clean from the dishwasher, dried on high heat, for production of our CSW. Is
this not acceptable?
If not, why not? When it's done, we remove the generator thing and put a lid
on it, and just
You looking for a Thumbs Up or Thumbs down?
Sorry, saw a chance for thumb fun...
Chuck
I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder
to find one.
On 1/14/2010 10:54:35 PM, sol (sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com) wrote:
At 09:04 AM
At 09:33 AM 1/14/2010, you wrote:
The graying on my children's and wife's nails is totally within the
moons. It starts at the root of the nail and progresses out toward
the edge of the moon, and eventually outside the moon over
time. There does not seem to be a significant amount of drop off
Mercury in Retro until Jan 15 but doesn't go
forward until Feb 4. I know it's superstitious but
dang I've noticed a lot of miscommunications
lately, and extra problems with emails and stuff.
Annie
Not everything that counts can be counted, and
not everything that can be counted counts.
LMAO @ Chuck's siggy:)
Annie
Not everything that counts can be counted, and
not everything that can be counted counts. (Sign
hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton)
If we could sell our experiences for what they
cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
Abigail Van Buren
Oops, am I showing my age or what?
Lol--I never thought of it that way.
Once I was at an encampment and it was raining. Most everyone was huddled
under trees, umbrellas, hoodies, sitting around campfires. One guy was
walking by our fire, all hunched over, and said think the rain will hurt
the
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