Hi Terri,
Ole Bob will make many on the list angry but here are the facts.
Without some type of current measurement and record keeping people don't
know what they are making. One must make seferal btches and have them
tested so you can plot the data and have reasonalbe assurance that you
know
Hi Nick,
It sounds like soap or detergent was left in the bottle.
If you ever wash anything with either of these two it takes about 3 good hot
water rinses to remove the saop or detergent.
Ole Bob
Nick Grant wrote:
Hi again
I have a question please. I gave a friend a bottle of my CS,
Hi Ya'all,
Many thanks to Judith for the
www.home.earthlink.net/~shadOww/nutritian/colloidal fieldtest.hmtl.
If you haven't visited this web site you should.
To me it is an opportunistic attempt or get rich scheme by someone who
knows very little about CS. When I am told to store in the dark in
Sorry Janet,
I have not heard of that. You might check www.colloidalgold.com, and see if Bill
Fernald has any info.
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Hi Bill,
Things are as confused as usual. I have had some strange things happening with
my HVAC ARC CS.
I store the CS in the DW bottles. The run on 8/5 checked out as Ag = 15.4 PPM
ans NO3 = 2.7
When I rechecked the NO3 on 8/25 it was 18 PPM.
On 8/16 I made a 2 gal. batch at Ag = 12.8 and NO3
No Marshalll,
What is CMO andwhere do I get it?
Ole BOb
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Hi Ya'all,
The price of silver is like the price of oats.
Oats that have been through the horse once is cheap, but good quality oats is
expensive.
The same is true of Silver. Not all foreign markets have the control that is in
the USA.
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Hi Aka,
Ole Bob and his wife Audrey uses colloidal gold, and this is our experience
with it.
We both have knee problems, mine is due to insufficient cartilage. Audrey's
appears to be arthritis. We started with CG of about 3+ PPM a light lavender
color. After about 7 to 10 days we both felt a
Hi Gil,
Don't try to pick the fly specks out of the pepper!
In the CS and CG field NO ONE knows exactly what happens in the body or how much
of what kind does what.
If you need that kind of definition you are in the wrong list.
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Wayne;
Go to www.dogpile.com and enter plastic bottles under the search box.
Ole Bob
Wayne Fugitt wrote:
Evening Ole Bob,
At 09:13 AM 08/26/2001 -0500, you wrote:
Hi Wayne
Get up todsate there is nothing wrong with clear platic bottles of the HDPE
Well... I am trying to do that.
Hi Reid,
Just trun the bottles upside down and read the initials molded in the
bottle. They are marked. So no problem. Look for HDPE or PETE. they are OK.
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Get up todsate there is nothing wrong with clear platic bottles of the HDPE
.
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Joanna,
I looked at your website.
Why are you using plastic bottles instead of glass?
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Please fix you computer all i ever get from you are 3 characters
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Hi Tracy;
If you want to do four times the voume of water then have four times the amount
of wet silver and four times the current.
Making CS does scale up.
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Hi Brickey,
You are corrct. Just make sure that the silver wires and connectedto the
positive lead of your supply. If not you will not make CS. You 30
ma.wall transformer is big enough for four 16 oz cells.
I hope that you have a meter in the circuit so you can know what is
going on.
Ole Bob
Marshall,
It looks like we have revived the dead horse again. i.e.. Ag+1 vs Ag0.
I thought that the main burn dressing used by the MD's is Silverdine which is
compound
containing Ag+1.
The Silverlon bandage yields ionic silver, Ag+1.
No one that I know of makes Ag0 except Frank Keys. Where
Ivan,
The cut-off finger is not there andsome new ones added.
One need to go the the bottem item on the left hand clinical ...
Ole Bob
Ivan Anderson wrote:
These pictures can be found at www.silverlon.com
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Hi Beverle,
Ole Bob stands corrected. That was my second mistake that day. The first
was getting out of bed!!!
Ole Bob
Beverle Sweitzer wrote:
Sorry Bob - copper/tin is bronze - brass is copper/zinc.
I have been a metal finisher and plater for 22 years and this I DO know
about.
Beverle
Hello Lim,
The drop in your metere reading is not unusual for LVDC CS. Add so form of
stirring, set the electrode spacing to about 2 to 2 1/2. I f you are using
constant voltage then limit the final current to about 3 to 4 ma. Based on 14
ounces of DW with 5 of wet length using #14 silver wire.
Eleanor;
You need to supply more data about the cat and how it was treated.
Ionic silver is a fantastict would dressing. In an earlier web page they
had pictures if the resukts if using silverlon. I have the pictures on
my hard drive. Unfortunately they are too large for the list, the best
one
Ivan,
In the USA only Admriality brass has zinc. The standard brass is copper tin.
Ole Bob
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Some people are squeamish about using brass for one
electrode as long as it is definitely
Cheli,
I am sorry but there is not inexpensive way to measure PPM. The cheapest
instrument is the Hanna single frequency spectrophotometer for $150.00 plus
another hundred for chemicals.
DO NOT use color as an indicator for PPM , it is telling you that your CS is
forming large particles.
Ole
Wayne,
There will be be not ill effects from any CS unless it has nickel in it and
even them people would probably no suspect nickel poisoning, which could be
fatal.
To check your wire size #14 is 0.63 diameter.
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Hi Eleanor,
Fortunately any process to make CS makes a material that worksd wonders. There
happens to be peole like me who have
engineering degrees and industrial experience that like to squeeze the last
ounce of juice out of an orange. i.e. to make a process as effective as
possible.
I quess
Hi Eleanor,
I answered you post before reading this one. That 17 volt adapter probably has
about 19 to 20 volts and it will work great.
Maybe a little slower but that is no problem. If you want to make small lots
i.e. 14 oz then get the clear SOLO cups from the
paper section of your grocery
Hi Bill,
My supplier is the Jules Borel Co. Order desk is 1-800-776-6858. The stock
number is IN 844-14/FS.
It usually ships the same day.
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DO NOT USE COPPER TUBING unless you want about 6 ppm of copper in your CS!!
Ole Bob:
Ed Kasper wrote:
for cheap steam distilled water try hooking up a tea kettle. Run copper
tubing out the top and up about 2-3 feet. Keeping the water just at boiling
(not rapid) helps keep the heavy
Nina,
There is nothing wrong with a good stainless boiler. The porblem comes in with
the steam which is hghly reactive, not the hot water.
Ole Bob
Nina Silver wrote:
Does anyone have a suggestion on where to buy a good, CHEAP distiller whose
chamber doesn't outgas (if it's plastic) or
14 0.0641 1.63
Regards
Gaston
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Subject: Re: CSPrice of Silver Wire
Wayne
Wayne;
Why fiddle around with such a complex circuit when all you need is an LM317T
and one resistor connected between the ADJ. and the OUTPUT with the output
voltage taken off the the ADJ terminal. The value of the resistor is as
follows;
R = 1200/ desired limited current. For 2 ma. the R=
Hi Grant,
My basement stays 68 to 70 year round. That' pretty close to the Std. 20 Deg C.
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Hi there Nancy,
I have not found an instantaneous dentist appointment book. Have you??
When the tooth became sensitive to pressure I made my appointment. I was using
CS with extended swish time.
When the second dentist started a root canal she showed me the puss from the
dead nerve, which had
Stephen,
How can you mke sure that buying foreign silver has the desired purity? If
it conatins nickel you are endangering peoples lives.
I pay $32.00 for 10 ft #14 gauge,.999, in KC from the Jules Borel co.
Ole Bob
Stephen Hessler wrote:
Hi Cris, Where can you get Mexican Silver and how
Eleanor;
Pardon my French but why in the H-ll are you worried about cost
effectiveness?
Ten feet of #14 gauge cost $30.25 plus postage here in KC MO. Coins present a
holding problem, and wire solves this very effectively. Ten feet of #14 will
make several thousand gallons of CS, and that is
Hi there Quietcove,
What you THINK makes better quality CS is for the birds.
Whether its .999 or .9 the end result is the same.
If you want an answer as to particle size all you have to due is send a sample
to Stephen Quinto and he will do a T.E.M. for only $75.00. That's cheap for the
Hi Terry;
If you have to filter then your process is away out of control!!!
If you have junk in the CS just slowly decant and leave the residual
behind.
Filtering with coffee filters is bad news. If you have a Hanna meter
check the conductivity before and after filtering to see how much junk
Hear ye, hear ye all newbies et al,
In my four years of investigation of various protocols for making CS I
have made and data logged over 400 runs of CS, using voltages from 12 v
dc to 380 v dc, 780 v ac to 15,000 v ac. I test every batch with my
spectrophotometer.
All of this is to say that I
Arthur et all,
The three tests tha I reported on were supplied by one individual.
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Wayne,
I make my readings with a 1 cm X 1 cm X 1cm probe (hoem made with brass
electrodes). Powered by a regulated
10 v ac supply and I measure the ac current. When all of the math is wrung out
one ma is one microSeimen per cc.
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Hi Ya'all,
During my stint as Engineering department Chief of Electron tube
manufacture at Western Electric in Lee's Summit, Missouri, we made
mercury vapor rectifiers (big ones) and we constantly monitored the area
for mercury fumes. The equipment was so sensitive that one could measure
mercury
Eleanor,
When CS first came out people used tap water.
Ole Bob
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Tracy;
If one is sick and starts with BIG doses they will most certainly get a
Herx reaction, so its best to sneak up on it, increasing the dose as
one goes. If one is well then drink CS as water.
In regards to charting. Roger is right, we need a standardized method of
making CS. About 3 years
Hi Ya'all,
There is much confusion on this list about ionic vs particle CS. So in
an attempt reduce the confusion, I am presenting the following.
My HVAC ARC processed makes almost pure ionic silver, and Frank Keys'
Mesosilver is almost pure particles. Frank has supplied me with a sample
for
Can anyone supply Steve's email address?
Thanks,
Ole Bob
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Hi Chris,
Yes, the part that goes into the DW is ceramic, and is availbe at any
aquarium supply store.
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Roger,
That all happened back in 1962 era. Please do not expectme to remember that bit
of data.
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Tracy,
Just be careful. If you have something seriousyou will have a Herx reaction. At
least you nowknowwhast to do if it happens.
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Bill,
As one engineer to another, GET OVER IT!!! You will never see a table
published like you want
Maybe people on this list will share their data to you off list. The
stuff is innocuous. If one is not sick then you can drink it by the
pint. If you are sick the one tablespoon twice a day
Allen,
Dishwasher clean is not clean enough to make CS
Rinse several times with very hot water and do not dry with anything.
Just let it air dry upside down.
Ole Bob
gallen4...@aol.com wrote:
I have been making CS for about two years, the past year using a
silverpuppy
generator, which
Listees;
The blueness, Argyia (sp) is caused by silver compounds. and not CS. When are
you people going to learn this
The archives have discussed this many times. MD's really stands for Mighty
Dumb. They are pawns of the pharmaceutical industry and all they know is what
a detail man tells
Jerome;
What do you have to loose other than the persons life with the progress of the
MRSA??
Dr Bill Baigoli NMD has cured Staph A in wounds with 12 ppm CS.
CS will not hurt anything, and it does kill many diseases.
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The 250 ppm that you have is a silver protein and not colloidal silver. It is
very unusual to find a true CS over about 20 ppm.
Most people make a water clear CS that ranges from about 5 to 15 ppm.
Unfortunately none of them have a true measuring instrument, so they guess at
what they
Bluesman,
If you test high for lead and cadmium then you need to take IV chelation. It
will
strip that stuff out of you body in no time.
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ears - twice actually cut out, but keeps returning. I'm afraid it
will burn him or cause him pain.
Dottie
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Hi Nina;
That should have been 1 ppm. the material that was sent was 12 ppm HVAC ARC CS.
If you wan to know what you are making in you standard process send me a
sample, my fee isn't excessive.
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Hi Lynda;
There is a citrus grove in Hawaii that has used a 1% CS to great
advantage for tree spray.
Ole Bob
Lynda Khula wrote:
need any info,,, have fruit trees and they have brown rot which from
all the reading I am doing is a fungus any one know if the cs will
help that just a thought.
Ken;
The moral is LEAVE THE H2O2 ALONE !!
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Hi Ya'all,
Just some more fuel for the fire on the subject of ionic silver. My
HVAC ACR CS is almost pure ionic.
Went to the dentist with a sore tooth. The X-rays showed some infection
on the tip of the root. Gave me 28 penicillin pills and said come back
in 7 days for tooth cleaning. By the 7th
Nina;
H2O2 attacks only the metallic silver particles, not the ionic silver. The T.E.
beam that you see when the laser pointer is shown thru the CS is caused by
particles and not ions as they are in solution. A true ionic solution has no
TE. My HVAC ARC CO2 Cs has almost no T.E. even in a black
Hi Ya'all;
I have found that Brook's method of 20% DMSO and 80% ionic silver does a great
job of penetrating both layers of the skin.
That puts the CS where you want it, ina both layers and inside.
My dog, a Great Pyrenees, had some red spots on her stomach about a 1/2 dia. I
sprayed it with
Ken;
I have the data sheets and theTEM for CS made with 380 v dc. the CS is
colorless just like water but the TEM from Texas
show particle size ranging form 18 nm to about 86 nm. Somuch for particle size
and color. If you want a pix of it I will send to individuals as it exceeds
Mike's
DeadTiredCaregiver ,:
Does 2 teaspoons of 50 ppm equal 1 teaspoon of 100 ppm?
Yes, but where are you going to find 100 ppm CS or even 50 ppm???
I would be very carefull of it!!
Ole Bob
Strawed, Hebrew is zarah (zar raw) meaning to toss about.
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Hi Ya'all,
I have funds to support about 38 volunteers for the Gaterado-CS
test!!!
If you newbies don't know what it is all about then go to the archives
and find Roger Altman's post of Tue,17 Jul 2001 13:18:37 -0700.
I can't have this money in my company account at tax time.
Ole Bob
Hi Ted,
Send me your post office address and two bottles will be on the way by
Tuesday.
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Hi Ya'all,
After reading all 27 pages of this report I had to put the URL on the
list.
In case anyone on the lsit is a greenie this will be most distrubing
as it recaps the data for 66 published papers on the
value of increased CO2 !! It has been a boon to humanity.
Print it out and read
Jr,
PWT means Pure Water Tester. Absolutely pure water will not conduct
electricity. It is very difficult to make as water is a universal solvent.
Pure water would measure in many many millions of ohms. In fact it could not
be measured. However water
that pure will leach glass or any metal until
Nancy,
I have very serious questions on your testor.
Wal-Mart and Walgreen Drugs sell excellent DW. I measure with a conductance
meter not a cheapie PWT They are not worth the powder to blow them up.
Wal-Mart checks in a 0.02 to 0.03 uS/cc. Your PWT can't read that low.
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Hi Ya'all,
Has anyone had any success treating fibermylysia (sp) with CS? If so
what protocol is recommended.
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Tony,
This web site does not like Netscape 2-4 versions.
It is a worthwhile learning site but hopefully those who view it will
advance to it right.
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Hi Gallen,
Yes, Dr. Bill Biagioli NMD at, an...@webworkz.com, has cured staph A
infections with CS.
There should be a post of mine in the archives to that effect. Look it
up.
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Coumaden is warafrin!
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Greetings Ya'all.
Does anyone have information as to the safety of using CS when a person
has Lupus??
The present medicine is to stop the autoimmune system from attaching and
destroying her vital organs.
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Arthur;
Unless you have had your CS tested by AA or spectrophotometricly you have
no idea of what you are making.
I do the spect. method.
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Wayne;
Hanna makes a single frequency spect for about $150.00 and the chemicals for 50
tests is about $105.00. You will need several other items which I will not go
into
here. If anyone is interested in buy the Hanna unit I will help them get
started.
It is not difficult but time consuming to
Arthur;
I did not say your meter is worthless,only that until you have established a
benchmark with a true ppm measurement can you infer a meaning to the
readings.
Many people use them but only the ones who have had their product check over
a period of time can say with reasonable doubt what the
Arthur;
How many square inches of wet electrodes to you have to support 300 ma at 30
Vdc???
Are you sure its not 30 ma or 3 ma or 300 micro amperes
One more item, how are you measuring the ppm of your CS, with a Hanna meter?
Ole Bob
Arthur Rambo wrote:
I use the bubbler and get
Jr.
As of today no one has been successful in making CG with DC.
Ole Bob
jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote:
Do you think 2 gold electrodes, 27 volts DC, and distilled water, will
give
one ppm for each minute of charge?
Thanks,
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When you post all I ever receive is three strange characters. Why???
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Roger Daymude;
Your ignorance is showing !! I suggest that you look into shipping costs. The
6 pounds for the two liter bottles for the gatorade test is about $8.50 plus
$1.34 for the box. Now add in the plastic peanuts, the label, and taking them
to the post office is not free.
Maybe I better
Wayne;
On this list HVAC generally means using a 12 kv of 15 kv NST.
From my investigations of HVAC, I have tried the two wet electrodes, the one
wet with the other slightly above the surface of the due so as to form a cone,
an the arc method where the arc electrode is about 0.40 above the DW.
Hi Ya'all,
Ole Bob hee uses Netscape 4.7 and while people talk about virius, at this
point I have never seen on. It maybe because I have Zone Alarm running. Its
free so maybe some of you should install it.
Before I put it in the background on one saturday morning Itpicked up 80+ hits
in about an
Roger;
WHY do you boil the water It is not needed.
The gold color says large particles. Did you continually stir the CS?? If not
then you got what you have. Stirrin gis some form is a must. WQhat di the
T.E. look like before and after the color change??
I don't know where you
Hi G.T.
According to the article by Dr.David Williams on the use of H2O2 in
curing various deseases he stated the following;
3.5% Pharmaceutical Grade may have the following, acetanilide, phenol,
sodium stanate, and tetrasodium phosphate.
6%, 30%, 32%, 35% Technical all contain stablizers.
Gaston;
Food grade is 35% with NO additives and generally available from agricultural
sources as they use it by the 55 gallon drums.
Any other grade of H2O2 has additives that we do not want to take.
My last reference was; Jim Haigh; 6511 Manchester Lane; Eden Praire, MN 55346;
Tel
To those participating in the test, the first set of three two liter
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Frank;
Silver oxide is not stasble at room temperature.
Ole Bob
Frank Key wrote:
Ken wrote:
This is called plateout or electroless plating where a certain amount of
metal sticks to non conductive surfaces.
Ken
When the water is evaporated from a highly ionic silver solution the
Roger:
I can't get you on your telephone and my emails asre not getting through
to you.
What's going on
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Frank;
Back in the 20's when Western Electric was making silver oxide photo cells used
in the sound motion pictures the only way
to make them was to vacuum deposit and oxidize at a high temperature and then
seal.
Yes it is stable. I didn't run the spell checker.
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Arthur;
The three 10 ohm resistors are in parallel (lay them side by side and twist
the three wires on one end together. Then do the same for the other three.)
This package of three parallel resistors go in series with one lead that
goes from the motor to the battery. The other battery lead goes
Marshalee;
Sorry, you are the one that is confusing things. Christiane thought that sodium
was the guilty one. Both Ivan and myself have corrected her as the problem with
salt is the chlorine.
Bicarbonate of soda does not have chlorine in it. Yet as I reported that HVAC
ARC cs when brought to a
Hi Ya'all;
On May 22 I made two gallons of HVAC ARC CO2 cs and it measured 14.5
ppm. I proceeded to adjust the pH with bicarb to about 7.0. I left the
cs in the tank with a paper cover to keep out any dust. After several
weeks I noticed trash on the bottom, but did not examine it.
Today June
Hi Christiane;
Using salt to speed up the making of CS frist produces silver chloride
before any CS is formed.
Sodium bicarbonate does not have any chloride in it so that it cannot
make silver chloride.
After Making cs with the HVAC process I adjusted the pH with bicarb. for
some reason it
Nina;
The URL worked for me and I have received his book.
Ole Bob
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From: spiroflx spiro...@tampabay.rr.com
To: Bob Berger bober...@swbell.net
Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 3:02 AM
Subject: CSOzone versus
Sorry Joey;
But you have no idea as to what you are making if infact you are making CS.
So please do not condemn CS for no healing your cold.
Search the archives and learn how to make CS.
Ole Bob
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Frank;
Welcome Home.
You are correct Frank, the sjies of the future are darker than most people
realize.
Ole Bob
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Roger;
This smay sound a bit arrogant, but I believe that my HVAC ARC CO2 method is one
of the more consistant methods for making nearly total ionic CS. Besides I have
the spect. to test it, and if desired I will get a pH meter.
So, if desired I would supply the CS required.
Ole Bob
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Roger;
I reported about 6 months ago that Dr. Bill Biagioli had a patient with a
serious
staph A infection. He packed the wound with gauze and flooded it with 12 ppm
silver ( that is all he will use), and kept it bandaged for 5 weeks. Complete
cure, it worked like the Silverlon bandage.
Ole Bob
Ed;
That is an untrue statement about baby urine. One's own urine works for
the illness thatone has. I speak from experience.
Ole Bob
Ed Kasper wrote:
The body gets rid of the toxins. It is not good UNLESS it is from baby
- prior to learning how to put all the crap into our system so in
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