Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-04 Thread Dee
Any CS made with a generator such as we use ie SilverPuppy, Silvergen etc will be perfectly safe to ingest on a daily basis as most of us on this list and family and friends do. As long as it is clear or pale yellow and you don't drink a gallon a day, then you should get great health

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-04 Thread Sandra George
Subject: CSNew Generator choice of three? From: Top Dog rsh...@gmail.com Date: 30/09/2014 4:18 AM 3. Silver Lungs: Watched the videos and read a few websites that tout the commercial like nature of this machine and it's reliability. I do like the bigger silver rods as it should keep

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-04 Thread Ode Coyote
Worse than that...the particles in a TEM photo were MADE by preparing the sample and were never in the water. Ode On 10/3/2014 10:09 AM, John Popelish wrote: On 10/03/2014 04:32 AM, Debra David wrote: (snip) - It makes a litre of 10ppm in about 90mins. This is almost too quick. 1 mA at

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-04 Thread Alan Faulkner
That made me think. I wonder if CS could be used to clear bacteria in a pool? Chlorine is so disgusting. Alan On 2014-10-03, at 18:02 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: Y'all are so smart so if this isn't pertinent to this conversation, just say so won't hurt my feelings. :) I was a

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-04 Thread Alan Faulkner
So are you saying that you simply keep the buffer solution in a bottle and open it to check/calibrate the meter periodically or before using? Alan On 2014-10-03, at 17:32 PM, John Popelish wrote: On 10/03/2014 06:03 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote: Thanks John. I wonder if the calibration would be

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-04 Thread Dee
You'd need an awful lot.?dee Sent from my iPad On 4 Oct 2014, at 19:42, Alan Faulkner ala...@gmail.com wrote: That made me think. I wonder if CS could be used to clear bacteria in a pool? Chlorine is so disgusting. Alan On 2014-10-03, at 18:02 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote:

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-04 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
Hi, Alan. But it would take a ton of cs, I imagine. Yes, chlorine is and it is hard on your liner, your skin, hair and eyes. It's killing power is also affected by activity in the pool as well as heat. And you have to shock it regularly. We sold Baquacil which is hydrogen peroxide based. It

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-04 Thread Sandra George
Hi Alan they actually make silver filters for swimming pools - friends of mine use them only in their outdoor pool here with huge success - check out the availability on the internet as I do not remember off hand where they get them from so you have a try and if you do not have any success then

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-04 Thread PT Ferrance
Ozone would probably be easier since there are ozone units for pools. PT From: Alan Faulkner ala...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 2:42 PM Subject: Re: CSNew Generator choice of three? That made me think. I wonder

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-04 Thread John Popelish
On 10/04/2014 03:06 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote: So are you saying that you simply keep the buffer solution in a bottle and open it to check/calibrate the meter periodically or before using? I think it last a a long time, in sealed, glass storage. But I usually pour a little into a shot glass,

CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread Debra David
From: Top Dog rsh...@gmail.com Date: 30/09/2014 4:18 AM 3. Silver Lungs: Watched the videos and read a few websites that tout the commercial like nature of this machine and it's reliability. I do like the bigger silver rods as it should keep from having to buy a new set for a while.

RE: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread Neville
, and in all likelihood I never will g. N. Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 18:02:16 +0930 From: alch...@kern.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNew Generator choice of three

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread John Popelish
On 10/03/2014 04:32 AM, Debra David wrote: (snip) - It makes a litre of 10ppm in about 90mins. This is almost too quick. 1 mA at the electrodes is generally considered to be the ideal current to produce the smallest particles. To make CS that fast would require a much higher current.. and

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread John Popelish
On 10/03/2014 06:45 AM, Neville wrote: I had two samples tested for Ph, one was shortly after brewing, which returned high alkaline as it apparently went off his scale, the second sample had been in storage for a while and was around base 7 point something. This ties in with several samples

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread Sandra George
otherwise as I haven't found any information relating to efficacy related to Ph of solution, and in all likelihood I never will g. N. Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 18:02:16 +0930 From: alch...@kern.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNew Generator choice of three? From: Top Dog rsh

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread Sandra George
...@kern.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNew Generator choice of three? From: Top Dog rsh...@gmail.com Date: 30/09/2014 4:18 AM 3. Silver Lungs: Watched the videos and read a few websites that tout the commercial like nature of this machine and it's reliability. I do like the bigger

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread John Popelish
On 10/03/2014 05:04 PM, Sandra George wrote: Hi There Neville - I have just tested my EIS with ph strips for urine and the EIS is showing mine at 6.0 acid I am probably using the wrong testers as this is all I have to test with - over to you for your input - thanks Digital pH meter pens gave

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread Alan Faulkner
Thanks John. I wonder if the calibration would be an issue with the electronic one? The strips are cheap but sometimes very difficult to read and this makes them a very rough indicator. Also one of them (the third down) does not include the batteries. Al On 2014-10-03, at 14:53 PM, John

RE: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread Neville
is different and raises/lowers the water temperature, the reading will change accordingly. You just can't be precise with anything in the home, the best one can hope for is to remain in the ball park - somewhere on the field. Subject: Re: CSNew Generator choice of three? From: oha...@juno.com Date

RE: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread Neville
I see that I am going to have to start keeping records of the pH of my preparations, both when they are made and when they are used. High pH solutions tend to absorb and react with carbon dioxide in the air, to form carbonates that lower the solution pH. ## Going on those two samples

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread Sandra George
temperature is different and raises/lowers the water temperature, the reading will change accordingly. You just can't be precise with anything in the home, the best one can hope for is to remain in the ball park - somewhere on the field. Subject: Re: CSNew Generator choice of three? From

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread John Popelish
On 10/03/2014 06:03 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote: Thanks John. I wonder if the calibration would be an issue with the electronic one? The strips are cheap but sometimes very difficult to read and this makes them a very rough indicator. Also one of them (the third down) does not include the

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
Y'all are so smart so if this isn't pertinent to this conversation, just say so won't hurt my feelings. :) I was a bookkeeper at a fuel business and the powers that be decided to sell swimming pools during the off season... summer. Every employee had to go to pool school to learn how pools

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread John Popelish
On 10/03/2014 09:02 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: (snip) ps.. I purchased a cs making machine a few years back and am still too chicken to try it. .. lol.. LH Please make a batch or two and just try it topically, if you are worried about consuming it. It quickly cured my dog of a skin

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
John.. thanks for the encouragement. I purchased the Colloid Master unit (don't remember which one) and it came with some kind of meter and a pouch of some liquid. Something about testing the meter??? Just don't remember but that set me off immediately because it was confusing. Very

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread Da Darrin
haven't found any information relating to efficacy related to Ph of solution, and in all likelihood I never will g. N. Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 18:02:16 +0930 From: alch...@kern.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNew Generator choice of three? From: Top Dog rsh...@gmail.com Date: 30

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-03 Thread Dan Nave
Rule of Thumb for CS Concentration: The maximum concentration for 1 cup of CS made at 1 milliamp for one hour would be approximately 17ppm. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Debra David alch...@kern.com.au wrote: From: Top Dog rsh...@gmail.com rsh...@gmail.com Date: 30/09/2014 4:18 AM

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-02 Thread Ode Coyote
On 10/1/2014 1:10 PM, bodhipakkh...@gmail.com wrote: HI, im considering buying the silver puppy and sent an email to their site but have not heard back. I am wondering how much it makes and how long it takes to make it. specifically quart of larger. Batch time depends on initial water

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-02 Thread sol
To add to what Ode said below: seeding a quart batch with about 1/4 to 1/6 of previously made CS brings the time down to around 3-4 hours. sol Ode Coyote wrote: Batch time depends on initial water quality and desired strength..very pure water takes longer. Typically a quart batch will take

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-01 Thread Ode Coyote
Popelish Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew Generator choice of three? On 09/30/2014 06:26 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: I prefer a thermal stirrer, as it speeds up production by adding some warmth. This is very significant if you

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-10-01 Thread bodhipakkhiya
HI, im considering buying the silver puppy and sent an email to their site but have not heard back. I am wondering how much it makes and how long it takes to make it. specifically quart of larger. the site says it makes a quart 'ok' and im looking for a little clarification. does

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I have had a Silver Puppy for 8 years or so and have the same rods and magnetic stirrer with no sign of them wearing out anytime soon. it makes consistently good CS - I make my own distilled water so get no discolouration problems due to water not being good. It does the reverse polarity

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Kirsteen Wright
What Dorothy said. I too have a Silver Puppy and love it. I leave it on automatic and it's great. You can ask Ken any questions you have, either here or on his site. He's extremely knowledgeable, down to earth, no bullshit and no outlandish claims. I honestly can't recommend him and his products

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Joe Huard
I made my own last year, and then this year I bought the Colloid Master from www.wishgranted.com. The price was reasonable and they shipped it right away. It reverses current direction by itself, so no stirring is necessary. Joe On 2014-09-29 2:48 PM, Top Dog wrote: Hi all, New here but have

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread PT Ferrance
, 2014 5:11 AM Subject: Re: CSNew Generator choice of three? I have had a Silver Puppy for 8 years or so and have the same rods and magnetic stirrer with no sign of them wearing out anytime soon. it makes consistently good CS - I make my own distilled water so get no discolouration problems due

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Lena Guyot
Enthusiastic ditto, here! Be well, Léna On Sep 30, 2014, at 6:34 AM, Kirsteen Wright wrote: What Dorothy said. I too have a Silver Puppy and love it. I leave it on automatic and it's great. You can ask Ken any questions you have, either here or on his site. He's extremely knowledgeable, down

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread moxaman
The SilverGen can make up to 5 gallons at a time. Google for info. I have one and it’s great. I make the silver for horses so I need to make a lot at one time. From: Lena Guyot Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:28 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew Generator choice of three

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread sol
I own both the Silverpuppy and a Silvergen SG-6 and am very happy with both. I make quarts with the pup, and gallons with the SG-6. If you seed the next batch by leaving approximately 1/4 of the previous batch in the brew jar, processing time is greatly reduced. sol --- This email is free

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Dee
So does the SilverPuppy but you can have a magnetic stirrer as well if you want...dee Sent from my iPad On 30 Sep 2014, at 14:11, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote: I made my own last year, and then this year I bought the Colloid Master from www.wishgranted.com. The price was reasonable

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread slickpicker
Joe: I bought a Colloid Master after my SG6 crapped out. However, I find it almost impossible to get the silver electrodes to sit relatively parallel in the solution because the insertion method is so flimsy. Did you find a workaround? Thanks, Terry Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote:

RE: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread TREM
It pumps dust and nitrogen through the water. The preferred method is mechanical stirring. Trem From: jmharringto...@yahoo.com [mailto:jmharringto...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew Generator choice of three

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Victor Cozzetto
, 2014 12:56 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSNew Generator choice of three? Curious as to why a bubbler is considered bad? A lot of people use this method. Please and thank you. Kind regards, Michele Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread John Popelish
On 09/30/2014 06:26 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: I prefer a thermal stirrer, as it speeds up production by adding some warmth. This is very significant if you are not in a temperature controlled environment; such as an empty house in winter that does not keep the heat running. I even use a warmer

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Asif Nathekar
Subject: Re: CSNew Generator choice of three? On 09/30/2014 06:26 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: I prefer a thermal stirrer, as it speeds up production by adding some warmth. This is very significant if you are not in a temperature controlled environment; such as an empty house in winter that does

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread John Popelish
On 09/30/2014 07:53 PM, Asif Nathekar wrote: Hi I have favoured cooler temps and no starter liquid for the reason that higher water resistance will produce more ions let me know your thoughts... I have only color or blue laser scatter to estimate colloidal concentration, while have only

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Asif Nathekar
I raise my chances of having a high ionic brew by having a low current and avoiding brewing under a full moon :) -Original Message- From: John Popelish Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 1:13 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew Generator choice of three? On 09/30

RE: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Neville
Has anyone investigated how the proportions of ionic to colloidal silver (or the size of the colloidal clusters) varies as the temperature of the water is changed, for any given generator source and electrode configuration? Regards, John Popelish As a 'back yard' brewer all I've

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread John Popelish
On 09/30/2014 10:22 PM, Neville wrote: As a 'back yard' brewer all I've got by way of figures are what I used to document a few years ago, and using El Cheapo home brand DW. Don't know if these are of any value. The following are figures from my 'open air kitchen' environment and

CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-29 Thread Top Dog
Hi all, New here but have been devouring everything on silver for the past week and I found this list through one of the forums. There are certainly some confusing statements that I have been encountering from people and creators of machines but I think I have it narrowed down to three choices

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-29 Thread V
I am interested in a new machine also as mine doesn't have a stir method and seems a bit fragile. I also would like to know if any lend themselves easily to using silver coins instead of silver wire. I bought two .999 percent silver and hope to use them. Thanks! On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM,

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-29 Thread jmharringto...@yahoo.com
Curious as to why a bubbler is considered bad? A lot of people use this method. Please and thank you. Kind regards, Michele Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android