Chip,
Soon I don't think you will need that regulator. Hitec just released a new
set of receivers and they are all rated for 3.7 to 7.4V. Funny but that
maps to 1 and 2 cell lithium. ;-)
Best Regards,
Ed Anderson
From: Chip Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: Lithium Ion
40 mA, same as the DX-6 receiver. Normal PCM is 12-15 mA.
JD
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From: S Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 10/19/2006 6:40 PM
To: Bill Swingle
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RCSE
Subject: Re: [RCSE] DX7 range
Darwin,
The excitement around the DX7 is the promise of glitch free, shoot down
proof flying. Most of the soaring population are having a great time on
lesser radios than the 14MZ, the 9303 or even the Futaba 9C. For them the
DX7 has plenty of capabilities.
The Spektrum DX6, which was
Thanks John,
Not bad, two hour thermals will be a breeze. :-)
Guess I will need to replace my new 9303 as soon as the 9303-DX7 is available.
Steve Meyer
SOAR
LSF IV
At 06:43 AM 10/20/2006, John Diniz wrote:
40 mA, same as the DX-6 receiver. Normal PCM is 12-15 mA.
JD
-Original
Hi Guys,
I was wondering if anyone, (including Hartmut if you are reading this) has
his email address, I had a question about the Picolario sensitivity
settings. For me it a fun toy but since he was the USA distributor, he had
a better idea about how to set them for TD use.
Looking for his
Hi guys,
John Luetke and I were playing with the recent version of the Picolario and
found that no matter what we would do we couldn't get it to 'zero' the
altitude.
Turns out that the best time to test it is not after flying all day in
a rain storm ;-)
Blowing in the pick up tube to get a
I have to say that I view this is the single most important development
in RC since the advent of proportional radios. SS offers essentially
glitch free operation while eliminating the possibility of being shot
down by some knuckle-head.
It will make running a contest a breeze. No more
Chip,
We've discussed dual battery packs before. For Nicad's and NiMH's it's a
reasonable approach. Though it was heatedly debated.
But with Lithium?? Dude, I don't know. I'd not be too cavalier with them.
Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA
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I have to say that I view this is the single most
important development in RC since the advent of proportional
radios
Blah blah blah... :-)
I remember the same kind of comments when that magician showed
up claiming he could turn lead into gold, but coincidentally didn't have any
lead
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Blah blah blah... :-)
I remember the same kind of comments .
This will stun many to hear, but Gordy, once again, you have completely
missed the point.
As far as the freedom from ever being shot down, were you not involved
in just such an incident a few
I have seen this in operation in an fvk bandit and i was fairly impressed. Lots of altitude, motor/esc /bec interference was not present, plane was flying especially fast and there was no apparnt lag. So far so good...
On 10/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have to say that
I wonder if all the people that are still so worried about charging Li-Ion
batteries are charging all the cell phones in the family outdoors in an ammo
box. :) No different technology.
John
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Power draw and range are valid concerns but how well do the dx receivers
work in a carbon fuse? Inquiring minds would like to know.
Walt
Thanks John,
Not bad, two hour thermals will be a breeze. :-)
Guess I will need to replace my new 9303 as soon as the 9303-DX7 is
available.
Very different technology;
The charge algorythms used within cellphones and other personal equipment are
locked down to the cell-count for that device, with other safegaurds.
The original question about using Lithium technology for sailplanes, at the
moment it does not warrant their use for a
So, what are you gonna do this weekend? How about that glorious place, Los
Banos!
There will be a BASH this weekend. Both Saturday and Sunday!
We'll be camping ON SITE.
So if you want to tear it up with other combat pilots, come out to Banos.
Bring your foamies and anything else.
I expect to
OK, hypothetically here.
Say I'm at the slope but my Lithium charger uses only 120V AC.
So, if I wanted to be reckless (go with me here), what can be done with a
Nicad charger and how?
Bill Swingle
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There are a few devices available now Bill that allow using a NiCD/MH charger
to charge Lithium technology, check the electric forums.
Simon Van Leeuwen
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Quoting Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
OK, hypothetically here.
prizmatics would fit our current moldies, they offer no where NEAR the required
current demands due to their internal structure.
I am curious what you feel are the current demands of a typical 6-servo
TD ship.
I can give you some documented loads from other uses.
Raptor 50 heli with 5
I dont know the story in Visalia. But I seriously doubt the Spread spectrum
will work as of today in a full carbon fuse without some serious antenna
installation. But as Gordy said buy and try. I would sure like to try one
but it seems that we are still waiting for CE marking on the radios here
so how would Spread spectrum play out internationally.
Currently the usa is 72mhz
most of europe I think is 35
So would that also unite us to one solution? :-)
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Why do so many people want to put a fire bomb in a transmitter or in
a model other than electric? The NiMh batteries in my Evo will last
about four times longer than I will ever fly in one day. If, by
chance, I do fly longer than normal, then I will simply recharge the
transmitter with the
Yes. All with JR spectrum on 2,4Ghz and a Pike Perfect or maybe Supra? Shit
there came the problem ;-)
Anyhow they now also opened up 5Ghz for wireless access and that would help
a lot on range. Kind of like you have practically double the range on 72mhz
than ours 35mhz.
Hilsen (Regards)
Selling an electric Graphite 1 V-tail The V-tail is the removable 2
piece type.
The wing had about 6 flights on it and includes (Multiplex Micro on
Flaps and Hitec 125 for ailerons).
The electric fuse has MPI 50HPs for the V-tails. The fuse has about 2
dozen launches (small repaired crack at
Whoa - this is backwards if I remember my ham training right. Higher
freq at same power = less range.
M
Anyhow they now also opened up 5Ghz for wireless access and that would
help
a lot on range. Kind of like you have practically double the range on
72mhz
than ours 35mhz.
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In a message dated 10/20/2006 1:43:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But I seriously doubt the Spread spectrum
will work as of today in a full carbon fuse without some serious antenna
installation.
Very likely - OTOH, full carbon fuses are NOT MANDATORY, and given
Excellent point - carbon is over-rated in this area. Look at the Icon fuselage.
Simon Van Leeuwen
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Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In a message dated 10/20/2006 1:43:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are correct...
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Quoting Mark Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Whoa - this is backwards if I remember my ham training right. Higher
freq at same power = less range.
M
Anyhow they now also opened up
I think JoJo got his information from Gordy :-)
Sorry I couldn't help myself...
Mark Howard wrote:
Whoa - this is backwards if I remember my ham training right. Higher
freq at same power = less range.
M
Anyhow they now also opened up 5Ghz for wireless access and that would
help
a lot
Anyway it looks like we will finally be able to get a tranny that works
in all parts of the world.
That would be nice.
Imagine being able to show up and not have to worry about reprogramming.
Or having people in for our Nats and not having to buy or borrow a tranny.
I would love to go to an F3B
OK You guys maybe right. Just looked at Horizon (where I got my 72mhz
unit..)
and the output strength seems to be 750mw.
In Norway (Europe) we have maximum 100mw on 35mhz
anybody know the output power of the DX6 and DX7?
Anyhow the broadband I got is wireless in the valley and 5Ghz seems to
Might be ;-)
I dont follow all the posts but Gordy's are of interrest normally! He writes
funny and are a nice guy...
And I only follow the digest...
Hilsen (Regards) Jojo
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From: Jeff Steifel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mark Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An accurate statement would be why do folks not follow instructions, and use
due diligence with new technology? It certainly is not the battery or packs
fault when they fail...
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Quoting Chuck Anderson
The same regulations that dictate the use of the ISM band on this continent
also occur everywhere else...
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Quoting Jeff Steifel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
so how would Spread spectrum play out internationally.
Hi guys, if you are looking for good accurate information on Li Poly please
go to www.skysharkrc.com Mike Grey has the best batteries and chargers at
the most reasonable prices. From the Skyshark Home Page click on Electric
Power, read the write ups they contain allot of information then at the
One can not put too fine a point on Doug's comments about NOT using your
NiCD/MH charger on Lithium technology...
Simon Van Leeuwen
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Quoting Doug McLaren [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 09:44:06AM -0700, Bill
In Norway we have maximum 100mw (milliwatt) and the DX6 was also first not
CE marked so it was not allowed in Norway untill recently. That's why I
asked on the output power of DX6 versus DX7
Have no idea what ISM band is
Hilsen (Regards) Jojo
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More than what a prizmatic can offer when it is needed most...howzat?
Average consumption is usually not the issue, high (current) loading which
causes the PTC (an over-current protection device present on all lithium cells)
to activate and reduce current flow is.
If activated by exceeding
As opposed to regurgitating, go here to learn more about ISM bandwidth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISM_band
I suspect what you interprete as better range is actually a higher bit rate @
5.8GHz that allows an agregate gain in bandwidth (even with errors).
Simon Van Leeuwen
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There will be no difference in O/P...
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Quoting Jo Grini [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In Norway we have maximum 100mw (milliwatt) and the DX6 was also first not
CE marked so it was not allowed in Norway untill
I use Li-Ion in 3 HLG's 7-9 oz ships AUW, and three 2M ships along with 2
UNL ships. I use cell phone batteries in 1S and 2S configurations yielding
4.4+v. I also use Cell Phone chargers for charging them. Most if the
Batteries and all the chargers came from discarded cell phones. I collected
them
I first used Nicads in a model in 1963 and in my transmitters shortly
after. I have plug and forget chargers and battery testers for my
equipment. I have no need for more advanced technology that can
start fires if misused. Anything that stores power has the potential
of starting a fire but
I use the cell phone chargers as I would with a normal cell phone. I plug
the charger in and leave it (sometimes for days). The chargers are UL
certified to put out only 4.4v or 7.8v and will not overcharge the
batteries. Granted, all things can and will fail but if you leave your cell
phone on
another vote for hobby horse
when i had back orders and other problems they expedited the product. they
have been super for me and multiple needs
bill
No more risk of what, fire? If the same devices with a similar charge regime
are used under the similar circumstances...the risks are the similar.
Quoting John [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I use the cell phone chargers as I would with a normal cell phone. I plug
the charger in and leave it
Have you at any time measured that current draw under load on the larger ships?
Are you aware of the specific ratings for the cells in question and the types
of PTC's employed? Do you understand what the maximum draw might be demanded of
that particular cell/pack?
The point is, although you
Exactly! If Fire is a worry I hope you have your cell phone near your back
pocket and not near your front pocket. Ouch! Just think of what could happen
if you stumble and fall against something and the battery shorts! A flameout
on the front side is not something I would like to experience! But
Mr. Ed Anderson,
Re: the DX7. Your comments are well thought out, objective and informative.
I appreciate your input. I currently have a DX6 and I love it. No worries
mate!
Best Regards, William Fann
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Gordy,
You need to back off the caffeine a
little.
Best Regards, William
Fann
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Thanks to all who responded.
Edg
Ok guys fact time
We've been flying the DX7 tx and AR7000 rx for some time now in over 200
different planes. From GS aerobatic planes with 150cc ignition engines to
Turbines and Heli's (gas/glow and electric). BTW-Turbines are THE most
unfriendly RF enviroment out there in the RC
John is having email problems and asked me to
repost for him. Here is his comments regarding the Spread Spectrum.
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Spread Spectrum...Chat Gold, Fools Gold or
?Ok guys fact timeWe've been flying the DX7 tx and
AR7000 rx for some time
I have it on good account that Gordy is, in fact, powered by barbecued
ribs. It's true! I read it in one of his posts ;)
On Fri, October 20, 2006 4:08 pm, William Fann wrote:
Gordy,
You need to back off the caffeine a little.
Best Regards, William Fann
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