Re: [RCSE] Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?

2008-02-01 Thread Michael Morjoseph
I new that Airfoil looked familer ( HN-216) Funny I got 2 of these F3B Ships from China they look Real Nice Called a Zoom Glider or Chico in the USA and I just looked it up and its a HN-216 Airfoil this is on the Zoom Glider Website I am a test Pilot for these New ships coming in the USA I

[RCSE] WTS: Ballast slug mold

2008-02-01 Thread winchdoc
Hey all, I've been flying slope a lot lately, and as a result, I have been making a few slope related items. One such item is a ballast slug mold. I know nobody in their right mind would want to ballast a TD plane, so this is mostly for you slopers... I built a batch of these and have a few

[RCSE] Re: Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?

2008-02-01 Thread Lincoln Ross
Looked like Michael is right. According to Profili, it's VERY similar to the RG-15. I checked it out at re*sqrt(CL)=100k and 150k. (That is, equivalent to a sailplane which is at Reynold's number of 100k and 150k when flying at Cl of 1) The two lines are just about right on top of each other.

Re: [RCSE] Re: Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?

2008-02-01 Thread David Webb
Gentlemen, I would like your feedback on something I created last season in a bit of a whim. I have been competing at various TD tasks in the Northwest over the last 3 years. Over this time I have witnessed far too many launches where the pilot after the fact admitted that he/she did not turn on

Re: [RCSE] Re: Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?

2008-02-01 Thread Anker Berg-Sonne
David, Launching without turning the transmitter on is a symptom of a greater problem. You must build a routine that you consistently follow each and every time you launch, otherwise you will make this and a bunch of other mistakes. Most of the problems occur if you let yourself be rushed,

Re: [RCSE] Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?

2008-02-01 Thread tony estep
Richard, Norbert Habe's database (www.habebert.com) has a little summary data of all the airfoils he has designed, from HN-003 to HN-1091. The HN-216 is not included. It's possible that he did design it and it's just not listed, but it's also possible that some plane manufacturer chose this

Re: [RCSE] Re: Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?

2008-02-01 Thread david . jensen
I'll take 2 -- Original message -- From: David Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentlemen, I would like your feedback on something I created last season in a bit of a whim. I have been competing at various TD tasks in the Northwest over the last 3 years. Over this time

Re: [RCSE] Re: Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?

2008-02-01 Thread Craig Allen
My best flights are when I forget to turn on :- David Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentlemen, I would like your feedback on something I created last season in a bit of a whim. I have been competing at various TD tasks in the Northwest over the last 3 years. Over this time I have witnessed

Re: [RCSE] Re: Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?

2008-02-01 Thread Chuck Anderson
For over 25 years, I used a system that prevented launching unless both the transmitter and receiver were own. Basically, it was a capture tow hook that had to be opened by radio to hook the towline to the tow hook and then latched by radio. It was an EK remote release tow hook with a pin at

RE: [RCSE] Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?

2008-02-01 Thread B B
They fly good not great. I would compare it to a heavy RNR late 90's moldie with a fast airfoil like the RG15. It is not a floater like a 7037 but all in all would make a great intro to open class due to the cost. Zoom will sell to anyone... two planes for about $1300.00 shipped here to the

RE: [RCSE] Re: Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?

2008-02-01 Thread Mark Howard
Well let's see. I'm at a contest and another pilot on my frequency is flying. His setup is (of course) far different than mine. I pick up my plane to do something or other and instant stripped servos? Maybe not. M From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [RCSE] Tree story, actually a helicopter

2008-02-01 Thread chris
In another 1970's story, Rick Norwood, of the Soaring Union of Los Angles (SULA), launched a Javelin Open class ship and did an active zoom-type launch at the top. For those unaware of the Javelin series, these were rolled plywood fuselage R/E planes with straight dihedral wings and up-swept

[RCSE] Almost as good as flying

2008-02-01 Thread tony estep
No flying here today -- it snowed 8 last night. My high-school son had a snow day off school, so we XC skied through the back yards of our neighborhood for about an hour. Made me envy Skip, Cody, Jim and Dr Dan who can do it all the time.

Re: [RCSE] Almost as good as flying

2008-02-01 Thread davidhauch
sounds like a great day with your son mother nature, glad to hear it Tony. (don't get any better then that!) we've been getting a ton of lake effect snow here in SW Mich., getting alot of snowshoeing in, and loving it. seems we would get 12'' to 18'' of snow, then it melts off completely then

RE: [RCSE] Re: Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?

2008-02-01 Thread Tom Copp
Are these the same guys that had an issue with what end of the chute to use last week and needed the colored rings? Tom -Original Message- From: Anker Berg-Sonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:32 AM To: David Webb Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com

Re: [RCSE] Re: Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?

2008-02-01 Thread Doug McLaren
On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 10:31:59AM -0500, Anker Berg-Sonne wrote: There are so many ways launches can go wrong that your proposed device may save you from one problem, but the others will be sure to bite you instead. Not only that, but if your plane is ever tilted at that angle as you carry

[RCSE] Tree Stories

2008-02-01 Thread Tom Nagel
Guys: I have really enjoyed the Tree Stories. First, they remind me of the incredible variety of ways that we as a group have found to screw up process of launching and flying RC sailplanes. And secondly, the stories all make me feel a whole lot less stupid than I normally appear.

[RCSE] Dodgson Pivot Plus Kit FS

2008-02-01 Thread dneelands
I have a Pivot Plus kit in mint condition. $200 and shared shipping. Pictures available. I could deliver it to the Monroe WA swap meet next weekend to save shipping. Please respond directly to me. Thanks, Dan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe

RE: [RCSE] Tree story, actually a helicopter

2008-02-01 Thread Jim Monaco
On a similar note, when I was learning to fly back in the early 90s in upstate NY, Bill Johnson the kind gentleman that that was mentoring me, said to meet him at the flying field one afternoon. As I drove up I watched him do a beautiful launch with his RES (something that started with an M... :)

[RCSE] Tree Stories

2008-02-01 Thread Dan Ashenfelter
It's good to know that others have felt as foolish as I, when several years ago I parked my brother's Electrasoar in the top of a very large tree. This airplane had a pretty flat glide as long as the speed was maintained. Needless to say, I was making a long approach and thought myself well

[RCSE] Re: capture towhooks

2008-02-01 Thread D.O. Darnell
Capture tow-hooks don't work well with zoom-launching techniques. Operation of such increases pilot load during arguably the most critical portion of a sailplane flight, seemingly causing a problem rather than solving one. FYI, those older types of (nylon) hooks can bind and not release

Re: [RCSE] Re: Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?

2008-02-01 Thread lincolnr
Connect the switch to a miniaturized fence charger connected to two metal bits, right where you hold the plane to launch. You will probably not launch that way, and you will probably not forget to turn on the tx even when you're launching some other glider. As long as you remembered to be

Re: [RCSE] Re: capture towhooks

2008-02-01 Thread Chuck Anderson
I only used either the EK Remote Release tow hook which I converted to a capture tow hook for models up to 115 inch span such as the Paragon. These models didn't zoom very well and I could usually do as well by towing as slow as possible to minimize the amount of towline reeled in. Nothing

Re: [RCSE] Almost as good as flying

2008-02-01 Thread Chuck Anderson
At 04:56 PM 2/1/2008, you wrote: Aw, c'mon Chuck, you know you miss it...hope to see you at the Gateway Open this year (June 22-23). I don't miss the St. Louis wether. Too cold and snow in the winter and too hot in the summer. I do miss the Gateway Open but won't be able to make it any

[RCSE] switch failure

2008-02-01 Thread e.heggen
How about a bright LED or strobe light inline with the switch. Mounted under the wing, even if you don't do the hookup your self, you always look at the hook. Eugene

Re: [RCSE] switch failure

2008-02-01 Thread Brian Chan
I just do the KISS(Keep It Simple, S7up1d) thing, wiggle the sticks( and see the response) before you go!! Haven't failed yet. I did have battery failure, but not the switch. I did forget to turn them off, is that count? Brian How about a bright LED or strobe light inline with the switch.

Re: [RCSE] switch failure

2008-02-01 Thread mrmaserati
Brian, you are right on the spot. KISS is always a better path. Why do we keep circling KISS while looking for the ultimate fix ? Regards, Dave Corven. -- Original message -- From: Brian Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just do the KISS(Keep It Simple, S7up1d) thing,

Remember KISS! (was: Re: [RCSE] switch failure)

2008-02-01 Thread Tord Eriksson
Nowadays I have a big bright flashing LED in my planes, which helps when I forget to wiggle the sticks! And I don't use no switch no more, but electrically- powered-plane-style banana plugs. Very secure on and off! Big Deans would work, too, I guess :-)! Tord RCSE-List facilities provided by