On 7/12/2015 3:54 PM, Mario Reitbauer wrote:
It's about time to get over that whole Softimage EOL topic and move
on. Clear your mind and get rid of the negativ thinking.
There are quite some tools out there which are worth learning. No
sense in keeping the negativ spirit up. Softimage won't
It's not you, Chris. It is very expensive for software that is only
rent-able--and yes, subscribing for a year is still effectively renting. I
brew my own coffee and pay less than 25 cents per cup--not $5.77 (the
adjusted price of a 5 day work week rather than 4.17 for working 7 days a
week.) The
Is it me or is this rather expensive?
On 07/14/15 9:46, Chris Marshall wrote:
Is it me or is this rather expensive?
Comparing rental with upgrading after a few years can be steep,
but the difference between rental and traditional subs (also with
updates) can also be considerable.
Say for 6 years,
4.5k for 3yrs (the longest and
I hate the subscription based plans ... just few hours ago i was checking
blender loool ... serioudly im considering moving to open source
On Jul 9, 2015 1:37 AM, Scott Parrish scotte...@gmail.com wrote:
Anybody see this today?
Barf!
http://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/your-life-maya
I didn't know they meant urine colored bright.
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:46 PM, John Richard Sanchez
youngupstar...@gmail.com wrote:
The Future is Bright!
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/14/15 9:46, Chris Marshall wrote:
Is it me or is this
.
Or was it inflated?
From: Eric Turman
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 4:39 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
It's not you, Chris. It is very expensive for software that is only
rent-able--and yes, subscribing for a year is still
Studios mostly just absorb the difference (while I'm sure their not
exactly happy to pay quite a bit more for nothing),
and most people using it (in studios) don't have licences themselves,
which could explain the relative lack of backlash,
but it's freelancers and small shops that this
The Future is Bright!
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/14/15 9:46, Chris Marshall wrote:
Is it me or is this rather expensive?
Comparing rental with upgrading after a few years can be steep,
but the difference between rental and traditional
that these are
normal prices for a cup of coffee or daily rates – I think they call that
inflation.
Or was it inflated?
*From:* Eric Turman i.anima...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2015 4:39 PM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2015 4:39 PM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
It's not you, Chris. It is very expensive for software that is only
rent-able--and yes, subscribing for a year is still effectively renting. I
brew my
that these are
normal prices for a cup of coffee or daily rates – I think they call
that inflation. Or was it inflated?
*From:* Eric Turman i.anima...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2015 4:39 PM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya
and why they assume that people still use cracked Maya 2008? :)
2008 the last time Maya had a useful release?
On 13 July 2015 at 15:42, Mladen Kevic mladen.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
ok they math is not right :)
Because you can afford $4.17 a day. Honestly, you probably spend more
than that on
ok they math is not right :)
Because you can afford $4.17 a day. Honestly, you probably spend more than
that on coffee. by they calculations we don't work just 52 weeks per year,
they included weekends as well :)
and why they assume that people still use cracked Maya 2008? :)
On Mon, Jul 13,
and why they assume that people still use cracked Maya 2008? :)
No Kev this is marketed towards New users don't question their logic !
This is about getting as many New people on as possible :P
On 13 July 2015 at 15:46, Kevin mc bride kev@gmail.com wrote:
and why they assume that people
Let's Simmer it down a bit, I'd as soon as not we eat each other over AD,
there are good people on the list.
Except Mirko, Mirko is terrible :P
(love ya Mirko !)
On 12 July 2015 at 15:29, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote:
nobody thinks that SI will get back, but 10, 15 or more
yea I'm the worst kid in the neighborhood, cant help it ;)
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:09 AM, Sebastien Sterling
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote:
Let's Simmer it down a bit, I'd as soon as not we eat each other over AD,
there are good people on the list.
Except Mirko, Mirko is terrible :P
Well there's one statement which just describes it:
get it when you need it or just don't get it.
I really think of leaving this mailing list cause most topics are about
ranting about Autodesk.
At least I don't give a shit about their campaigns, about their products or
about anything they do.
I
For taking up a fight with Cinema 4D, Maya needs a serious crashcourse
and lose some excess wheight.
I have collegues do stuff in Cinema 4D, anything from dynamics, multiple
projections, just rendering smoke with Arnold,
painting textures in Bodypaint and playing with *.psd layers and layered
regardless to whom this campaign is targeted to...
it is an insult to any professional out there working in this industry.
even when you just read the facts of the campaign and trying to keep any
emotions aside...
and ignoring anything you know about Maya and it's real performance,
workflow,
nobody thinks that SI will get back, but 10, 15 or more years of experience
you cannot replace with something just that fast.
you can relearn some new software and play with anything else but you will
hardly get to the point of usability with it any time soon...
so it is HUGE step back for all SI
It would be so easy to write them off a idiots
DCC are TOOLS in nature, they are selling them as a service, which is
fundamentally incompatible.
As a carpenter you don't rent a hammer or a tool belt, not if it is your
business, that is insane.
On 10 July 2015 at 23:55, Tim Leydecker
BUT carpenters do rent some tools... not their core tools but typically the
larger more expensive tools. Maybe this campaign is not for us. ie. The
people who use 3d tools everyday. Maybe the people that never have used 3d
tools before are the focus of this campaign. My colleagues and I have
It’s clearly targeted to the Cinema4D crowd obviously, designers and kind of 1
man band artist/designers/directors running on a laptop and darting through
london on a uber expensive bicycle.
The problem is that these guys have a great tool in their hands and its
connection with After Effects
BUT carpenters do rent some tools
this analogy works for things like Yeti and arnold, that can be rented for
periods of time and are specialized tool... i guess.
you could read this a number of ways.
On 11 July 2015 at 19:54, Jordi Bares Dominguez jordiba...@gmail.com
wrote:
It’s clearly
wow.. I'm going to call sideFX now and ask them to cancel my houdini
indie, cause after that video, I'm convinced there is no other future
than the brightness that is maya!!
Dear Autodesk, please create a paypal account so I can just randomly
give you my money for being awesome.
on a side
Ha Ha Ha! Where to begin? Its pretty laughable.
All the predictable analogies come to mind. Dad dancing is one of them.
Its like your dad getting a man-bun, skinny jeans, 50s plimsoles and a
single speed bike and talking street. Autodesk should stick to their
tweed jacket and grey flannel
I see them more in leather and Reich garb.
On 10 July 2015 at 11:17, Alastair Hearsum hear...@glassworks.co.uk wrote:
Ha Ha Ha! Where to begin? Its pretty laughable.
All the predictable analogies come to mind. Dad dancing is one of them.
Its like your dad getting a man-bun, skinny jeans, 50s
but if you think. they got a lot of attention so in a way.. mission
successful..
if they are trying to look again like idiots that have no idea who target
market is...
unless we are idiots and they know exactly what they are doing and
targeting all those mall kids that will pump up now dady
well that godwined pretty fast...
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Sebastien Sterling
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote:
I see them more in leather and Reich garb.
On 10 July 2015 at 11:17, Alastair Hearsum hear...@glassworks.co.uk
wrote:
Ha Ha Ha! Where to begin? Its pretty laughable.
Meh Godwins law is very much a though terminating cliche masquerading as a
witty rebuttal to diversify your analogies. i could have use Pol Pot or the
Catholic church.
- Ha you mentioned Hitler so you lost the conversation ...
-... ... ... Yes.
In fairness AD is worse then Hitler cause even
Please lets keep this at least a bit professional.
2015-07-10 15:28 GMT+02:00 Doeke Wartena doeke.wart...@gmail.com:
Hitler was innovative.
But to be fair, didn't Hitler say the future was bright?
2015-07-10 15:12 GMT+02:00 Sebastien Sterling
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com:
Meh Godwins
Hitler was innovative.
But to be fair, didn't Hitler say the future was bright?
2015-07-10 15:12 GMT+02:00 Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
:
Meh Godwins law is very much a though terminating cliche masquerading as a
witty rebuttal to diversify your analogies. i could have use
This sums it up nicely:
http://pastebin.com/zRFh44Eq
--
-=T=-
at Siggraph someone should put up a coffee stall in front of the Autodesk
boot:
with a big sign:
Get a coffee, not a Maya!
...
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Eric Turman i.anima...@gmail.com wrote:
This sums it up nicely:
http://pastebin.com/zRFh44Eq
--
-=T=-
Looking at it from the old side of subscription, permant license and
maintenance updates
while walking down Schlesische Straße towards the Pie Shop in
Falkensteinstraß in Berlin,
maybe times change?
Their Pie is really good. British style pie, meat, mashed potatoes, gravy.
Everybody around me
09, 2015 9:19 AM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Agree with Mirko,
This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it...
If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be
absolutely perfect
my, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and
approved
this should get flayed.
*From:* Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya
.
*From:* Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Agree with Mirko,
This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it...
If the hipster guy had
@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Agree with Mirko,
This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it...
If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be
absolutely perfect.
Not sure what is the situation in your
@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Anybody see this today?
Barf!
http://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/your-life-maya
, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and approved this
should get flayed.
From: Nicolas Esposito
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Agree with Mirko,
This is an experiment
flayed.
*From:* Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Agree with Mirko,
This is an experiment to see if they can get away
many levels – whoever commissioned and approved
this should get flayed.
*From:* Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Agree with Mirko
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Agree with Mirko,
This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it...
If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be
absolutely perfect.
Not sure what is the situation
.
From: Nicolas Esposito
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Agree with Mirko,
This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it...
If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo
*Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Agree with Mirko,
This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it...
If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be
absolutely
and
approved
this should get flayed.
*From:* Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Agree with Mirko,
This is an experiment to see if they can get
Anybody see this today?
Barf!
http://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/your-life-maya
Especially awesome since Autodesk doesnt let you order by the week, it's by
the month.
If you dont need it for a couple weeks you still pay out the full month
leading up to or overlapping those 2 weeks.
herp derp.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Sebastien Sterling
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [
mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Parrish
*Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:35 AM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Get rid of your flip phone and get current
-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Parrish
*Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:35 AM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Anybody see this today?
Barf!
http
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Anybody see this today?
Barf!
http://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/your-life-maya
Of Scott Parrish
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:35 AM
To: mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Anybody see this today?
Barf!
http://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/your-life-maya
Sebastien,
You hit the nail on the head.
We *do *all work 52 weeks a year, and for them to not know that
is beyond insulting. And often, what is the reason that we work 52 weeks a
year?
Because of their software that crashes, throws errors, doesn't render, or
whatever the bug of the day is.
Who the fuck is this marketed too ?
It reads like a Microsoft style pitch :P
Come on, who works 52 weeks a year? Which means there's probably no reason
to pay for Maya all year long. Now you don't have to. Get it when you need
it for a project. Don't when you don't.
*52 weeks a year ...*
52
Uh.. yeah.
I feel like I have been assaulted by an army of hipsters and TOLD that I am
getting Maya the way I want it.
I don't want it, and if I did, that isn't the way I would want it.
Maya is almost as old as the guy in that video.
It is anything but hip.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 6:34
: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Scott Parrish
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:35 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Anybody see this today?
Barf!
http
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