Re: Autodesk response

2014-03-18 Thread Michael Clarke
if transition is even an issue. Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Meng-Yang Lu Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 4:20 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Autodesk response

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2014-03-17 Thread Emilio Hernandez
??? --- Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation. 2014-03-17 9:04 GMT-06:00 Alastair Hearsum hear...@glassworks.co.uk: Hello Following this article

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2014-03-17 Thread Emilio Hernandez
In the case of Glassworks, it was really just an unfortunate oversight that they were not pre-briefed. We have personally contacted Alastair to apologise. Last year we pre-briefed Glassworks on other strategic projects and it was a simple error on our end that they were not on the list this time

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2014-03-17 Thread Andi Farhall
Hi Maurice Maintaining the status quo is not going to be a recipe for success either for ourselves how does that not include Maya? That's the ultimate in status quo surely? Andi ...

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2014-03-17 Thread Artur Woźniak
I can only say this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx2V-D-Xdq8 2014-03-17 16:09 GMT+01:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com: In the case of Glassworks, it was really just an unfortunate oversight that they were not pre-briefed. We have personally contacted Alastair to apologise. Last

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2014-03-17 Thread Artur Woźniak
I am sorry, It's not at Glassworks or Alastair but Autodesk. This is hysterical. Artur 2014-03-17 16:15 GMT+01:00 Artur Woźniak artur.w...@gmail.com: I can only say this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx2V-D-Xdq8 2014-03-17 16:09 GMT+01:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com: In the

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2014-03-17 Thread Jason S
it was really just an unfortunate oversight that they were not pre-briefed. On 03/17/14 11:04, Alastair Hearsum wrote: Hello Following this article http://www.creativebloq.com/3d/rip-softimage-reaction-autodesks-decision-kill-3d-software-31410967 here is Autodesk's response

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2014-03-17 Thread Nicolas Esposito
So they're saying that they want to push over new technology with Bifrost and virtual production. Bifrost ( correct me if I'm wrong ) is still in development and it wont be ready for a while Virtual production is a couple of years that is already used, and in order to shoot live video together

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2014-03-17 Thread Jason S
it was really just an unfortunate oversight that they were not pre-briefed. as if all this was about lack of pre-breifing.. On 03/17/14 11:04, Alastair Hearsum wrote: Hello Following this article

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2014-03-17 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Well here is a mail for our voice to be heard at this channel. kerrie.hug...@futurenet.com --- Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation. 2014-03-17 9:19 GMT-06:00 Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com: it was really just an unfortunate oversight

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2014-03-17 Thread Dan Pejril
I liked this statement in the article constant creative innovation. In the case of Autodesk, should be changed to constant creative acquisition, stagnation and degradation. Looking elsewhere, and this response has only solidified that decision. On 3/17/2014 11:04 AM, Alastair Hearsum wrote:

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2014-03-17 Thread David Saber
That's not a response to the open letters. No word about how XSI is an asset in production thanks to its fast workflow, and how Autodesk intends to find a replacement. Once again, Softimage is NOT only ICE, so bifrost cannot be a replacement for Softimage.

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2014-03-17 Thread olivier jeannel
One thing I would like to know : Why is it not possible to buy SI after the fatal date (march 28 ?) ? If there is no more support, it's costless for AD, no ? Le 17/03/2014 16:20, Emilio Hernandez a écrit : Well here is a mail for our voice to be heard at this channel.

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2014-03-17 Thread Dan Yargici
For example, only a small proportion of our Softimage customers are actually current on the Softimage software. Many are using older versions. These customers will be able to continue to do so in perpetuity. Given that they are productive using older versions of the software, this decision should

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2014-03-17 Thread Arvid Björn
we are developing training materials to facilitate the transition That's going to be a joke. These videos are going to be the ultimate testament to all the things that are harder to do in Maya. historically, the introduction of Maya and of XSI were disruptive events requiring retraining and

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2014-03-17 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Where do you buy virtual rotten tomatoes? --- Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation. 2014-03-17 9:51 GMT-06:00 Juan Brockhaus juanxsil...@gmail.com: I wouldn't have used so many f##cks ;-) ... but I totally agree with you, Arvid. Juan

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2014-03-17 Thread Juan Brockhaus
they bought Soft to get rid of the strongest competitor. then gave it less and less nutritions so that it started to get sick and weak. now they can easily excuse, that it had to be shot (put down), to safe it from a slow and painful death. ... On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Juan

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2014-03-17 Thread Stephen Davidson
It is also quite clear that both the visual effects and games businesses are going through significant transitions: both from a business model and a technology perspective. Are they referring to this? http://www.hollywoodendingmovie.com/ Is this a reaction to the unsustainable business model of

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2014-03-17 Thread Halim Negadi
The webinar just stopped and I cant' get it back.. It's all bullshit but am I the only one not accessing it anymore ? On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netwrote: It is also quite clear that both the visual effects and games businesses are going through

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2014-03-17 Thread Ivan Vasiljevic
No it's dead all over the globe :). Italy, Serbia, England... On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Halim Negadi hneg...@gmail.com wrote: The webinar just stopped and I cant' get it back.. It's all bullshit but am I the only one not accessing it anymore ? On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 5:20 PM,

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2014-03-17 Thread Andres Stephens
Colombia froze also, have and had to re-stream from the beginning. From: Oscar Juarez Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎March‎ ‎17‎, ‎2014 ‎11‎:‎35‎ ‎ To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com I cant access it either On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Halim Negadi hneg...@gmail.com wrote: The webinar

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2014-03-17 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
Only fitting that it crashed... ;) -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com

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2014-03-17 Thread Oscar Juarez
Here in Germany doesnt even start from the beginning. On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Andres Stephens drais...@outlook.comwrote: Colombia froze also, have and had to re-stream from the beginning. *From:* Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 11:35 *To:*

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2014-03-17 Thread Dan Pejril
I guess I'll go back to watching more Modo videos. Thanks Autodesk for giving me more time to devote to researching other non-Autodesk options. Blew it again! On 3/17/2014 12:39 PM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: Only fitting that it crashed... ;) -- Dan Pejril Upbeat Unique Entertainment

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2014-03-17 Thread Richard Costin
*We are having technical difficulties with the streaming component, we are continuing with the recording and will post the session when the recording has finished.* On 17 March 2014 16:40, Dan Pejril d...@upbeatunique.com wrote: I guess I'll go back to watching more Modo videos. Thanks

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2014-03-17 Thread Oscar Juarez
In the site: We are having technical difficulties with the streaming component, we are continuing with the recording and will post the session when the recording has finished. On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Dan Pejril d...@upbeatunique.com wrote: I guess I'll go back to watching more Modo

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2014-03-17 Thread adrian wyer
live qa? way to dodge questions a _ From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Richard Costin Sent: 17 March 2014 16:42 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Autodesk response We are having

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2014-03-17 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
Oscar Juarez schreef op 17-3-2014 17:42: We are having technical difficulties with the streaming component, we are continuing with the recording and will post the session when the recording has finished. Which was what they should have done in the first place. Better yet: write it down and

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2014-03-17 Thread Morten Bartholdy
That is the biggest pile of public smoothing, incencere, damage control bullshit I have read in a long time. Maurice - I understand you have been sent out by your employer to put out the wildfires, but this public response does not do you any credit. We must give Kerrie Hughes the facts of this

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2014-03-17 Thread Stephen Davidson
Seems the EFX business is not the only area plagued in the movie business http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/03/16/Hammer-Falls-Political-Flops-Again-Set-To-Cost-Sony-And-Film-Industry On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netwrote: It is also quite

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2014-03-17 Thread Sebastien Sterling
Well if they don't want to support it anymore, why don't they auction it off ? in fact they should really be legally obligated. On 17 March 2014 17:46, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: Seems the EFX business is not the only area plagued in the movie business

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2014-03-17 Thread adrian wyer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDtlPXmmE i'm mad as hell! _ From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Marshall Sent: 17 March 2014 17:53 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Autodesk response

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2014-03-17 Thread Chris Marshall
Everyone who uses Softimage has a 'Significant ongoing investment' in it!!! Aaarrrgggh On Monday, 17 March 2014, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com wrote: Network - Mad as Hell Scenehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDtlPXmmE i'm mad as hell!

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2014-03-17 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
As a hobbyist I can only say: indeed! Chris Marshall schreef op 17-3-2014 19:04: Everyone who uses Softimage has a 'Significant ongoing investment' in it!!! Aaarrrgggh -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of

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2014-03-17 Thread Mirko Jankovic
Honestly small shops and individuals are really a bit harder to make big investments than bigger shops. It is like.. if 100 licences are really like 20% of monthly income for big shop (just example numbers no idea of real one) and for freelancer it makes like 200% of monthly income.. yes like

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2014-03-17 Thread Chris Marshall
It's people like us that are going to get hit the hardest, not the big shops. Retraining whilst still trying to keep the work going through, is going to be very very difficult, dare I say, almost impossible. But hey, we don't have a significant investment in Softimage, so that's ok! On Monday,

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2014-03-17 Thread Emilio Hernandez
At the rate this whole comunication is going now in the list, maybe I know why they developed the new chat cube -- --- Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

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2014-03-17 Thread olivier jeannel
Don't want to argue who's suffering more, the big shops or the small one. But nonetheless, I feel like a passive actor in a gay porno... Le 17/03/2014 19:45, Chris Marshall a écrit : It's people like us that are going to get hit the hardest, not the big shops. Retraining whilst still trying to

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2014-03-17 Thread Greg Punchatz
I cried so hard I laughed .. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2014, at 1:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: Don't want to argue who's suffering more, the big shops or the small one. But nonetheless, I feel like a passive actor in a gay porno... Le 17/03/2014 19:45,

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2014-03-17 Thread Jason S
The idea of prewarnings, is for exactly that.. letting bigger shops in to the decision start transitions first, gives a feeling of preferential treatment, not much room to dissaprove when it all silent and top secret, so you go ahead saying.. darn, but what other choice? And when it all

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2014-03-17 Thread Chris Marshall
I just cried, and kept on crying On Monday, 17 March 2014, Greg Punchatz g...@janimation.com wrote: I cried so hard I laughed .. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2014, at 1:48 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.frjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','olivier.jean...@noos.fr'); wrote:

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2014-03-17 Thread Paul
It's also so you can get then to sign gagging contracts. On 17 Mar 2014, at 19:16, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: The idea of prewarnings, is for exactly that.. letting bigger shops in to the decision start transitions first, gives a feeling of preferential treatment, not much

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2014-03-17 Thread Daniel Kim
That's not a response. That's just an another announcement. It's really shame that Maurice only put excuses without mentioning a real thing. And what an ignorance. They approached other big Softimage studio to consider Maya or Max from year ago bug Glasswork? because Glasswork might be smaller

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2014-03-17 Thread Srecko Micic
I think it would be insane that XSI users have anything with AD, after all this. I know that many do not have choice but jump with Maya... I would invest these two years to push developer of MODO, Houdini or Fabric than give anything to AD. On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Daniel Kim

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2014-03-17 Thread Adam Seeley
: Monday, 17 March 2014, 17:57 Subject: RE: Autodesk response https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDtlPXmmE   i'm mad as hell!   From:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Marshall Sent: 17 March

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2014-03-17 Thread phil harbath
there was a similar statement when combustion was killed. From: Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 6:05 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Autodesk response Am I to understand that AD thinks that those people who refused to be subjected

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2014-03-17 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Autodesk response For example, only a small proportion of our Softimage customers are actually current on the Softimage software. Many are using older versions. These customers will be able to continue to do so in perpetuity. Given that they are productive using older

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2014-03-17 Thread Rob Chapman
...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yargici Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 11:28 AM To: davidsa...@sfr.fr; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Autodesk response For example, only a small proportion of our Softimage customers are actually current on the Softimage software. Many

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2014-03-17 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Lets make something very clear here. A) big shops might not be voicing their concerns for reasons other than some of the utterly retarded conspiracy theories that are emerging. Reasons might be that CEOs and producers in a place big enough simply DO NOT give enough of a damn about this, or that

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2014-03-17 Thread Chris Marshall
You mean, they don't *ALL* have the XSI tattoo?!?!? Weird!! On Monday, 17 March 2014, Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote: Lets make something very clear here. A) big shops might not be voicing their concerns for reasons other than some of the utterly retarded conspiracy

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2014-03-17 Thread Francisco Criado
i stiil have my xsi tatoo souvenir, and thinking seriously in doing one on myself for real. F. On Monday, March 17, 2014, Chris Marshall chrismarshal...@gmail.com wrote: You mean, they don't *ALL* have the XSI tattoo?!?!? Weird!! On Monday, 17 March 2014, Raffaele Fragapane

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2014-03-17 Thread Matt Lind
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Raffaele Fragapane Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 3:44 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Autodesk response Lets make something very clear here. A) big shops might not be voicing their concerns for reasons

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2014-03-17 Thread Meng-Yang Lu
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Raffaele Fragapane *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 3:44 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Autodesk response Lets make something very clear here. A) big shops might not be voicing

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2014-03-17 Thread Matt Lind
if transition is even an issue. Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Meng-Yang Lu Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 4:20 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Autodesk response Matt, Considering your

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2014-03-17 Thread Meng-Yang Lu
...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Meng-Yang Lu *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 4:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Autodesk response Matt, Considering your previous emails about retaining legacy, I got the notion you didn't know until the last minute since you were

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2014-03-17 Thread Tenshi Sama
if transition is even an issue. Matt *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Meng-Yang Lu *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 4:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Autodesk response Matt