Re: [Starlink] Itʼs the Latency, FCC

2024-04-29 Thread David Lang via Starlink
Amazon, youtube set explicitly to 4k (I didn't say HDR) David Lang On Tue, 30 Apr 2024, Colin_Higbie wrote: Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 01:30:21 + From: Colin_Higbie To: David Lang Cc: "starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: RE: [Starlink] Itʼs the Latency, FCC Was that 4K HDR (not SDR)

Re: [Starlink] Itʼs the Latency, FCC

2024-04-29 Thread Colin_Higbie via Starlink
Was that 4K HDR (not SDR) using the standard protocols that streaming services use (Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney+, etc.) or was it just some YouTube 4K SDR videos? YouTube will show "HDR" on the gear icon for content that's 4K HDR. If it only shows "4K" instead of "HDR," then means it's SDR.

Re: [Starlink] It’s the Latency, FCC

2024-04-29 Thread David Lang via Starlink
hmm, before my DSL got disconnected (the carrier decided they didn't want to support it any more), I could stream 4k at 8Mb down if there wasn't too much other activity on the network (doing so at 2x speed was a problem) David Lang On Fri, 15 Mar 2024, Colin Higbie via Starlink wrote:

Re: [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] waves podcast is out

2024-04-29 Thread Bob McMahon via Starlink
Fronthaul networks, preferably fiber, to a 20+ year concentrator (not a 802.3 switch) at the same location of an electrical panel. Get rid of the SoC and AP which is basically a Sun workstation with NICs and use remote radio heads (or in switch speak, port ASICs.) This design will work for 50+

[Starlink] apologies for the flood of backlogged email

2024-04-29 Thread Dave Taht via Starlink
I have been very busy on other things these past few months and got behind on managing the list. Apologies. The highlight of my year (so far) was camping out at cape canaveral 2 weeks ago and seeing two starlink launches, playing the heck out of my guitar, and piano... and ultimately... appearing

Re: [Starlink] It’s the Latency, FCC

2024-04-29 Thread Colin Higbie via Starlink
> I have now been trying to break the common conflation that download "speed" > means anything at all for day to day, minute to minute, second to second, > use, > once you crack 10mbit, now, for over 14 years. Am I succeeding? I lost the > 25/10 > battle, and keep pointing at really terrible

Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] When Flows Collide?

2024-04-29 Thread Jack Haverty via Starlink
Hi David, Thanks for the explanation.  I had heard most of those technology buzzwords but your message puts them into context together. Prioritization and queue management certainly helps, but I still don't understand how the system behaves when it hits capacity somewhere deep inside -- the

[Starlink] When Flows Collide?

2024-04-29 Thread Jack Haverty via Starlink
It's great to see that latency is getting attention as well as action to control it.  But it's only part of the bigger picture of Internet performance. While performance across a particular network is interesting, most uses of the Internet involve data flowing through several separate

Re: [Starlink] [M-Lab-Discuss] The FCC 2024 Section 706 Report, GN Docket No. 22-270 is out!

2024-04-29 Thread Fenwick Mckelvey via Starlink
Hello from Canada, I noticed some discussion about FCC and latency again (here and on hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39533800). A few years ago, Reza and I spent considerable work at our national regulator, CRTC, establishing a latency and packet loss threshold for a minimum

Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] starlink IXP peering progress

2024-04-29 Thread Fearghas Mckay via Starlink
On 27 Feb 2024 at 14:51:29, Dave Taht via Nnagain < nnag...@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > One of the things I learned today was that starlink has published an > extensive guide as to how existing BGP AS holders can peer with them > to get better service. I am curious if there is a way to see

[Starlink] waves podcast is out

2024-04-29 Thread Dave Taht via Starlink
I did my usual bufferbloat rap on this pretty excellent podcast. What I am most proud of however, was showing off my mom´s art in this segment here, including her most powerful piece "Sad Sam". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVFWSyMp3xg=1098s -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0Tmvv5jJKs Epik