Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-10-28 Thread Matthew Altman
I've been away from the Stripes community for a while since my current job didn't have a place for it. However, just now I find myself in a position of presenting web frameworks for retrofitting current site as well as future development for the same company. I am a big advocate of Stripes since

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-10-28 Thread farouk alhassan
Subject: Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long) To: Stripes Users List stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Thursday, 28 October, 2010, 22:33 I've been away from the Stripes community for a while since my current job didn't have a place for it. However, just now I find

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future...

2010-10-08 Thread Daniel D'Alessandro
autocompletion of field bindings, variables etc. Even then, this plugin has been slow to get its functionality back up to scratch after the release of Intellij 9. Dan On 6/10/10 6:19 AM, stripes-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future...

2010-10-08 Thread amagha
/10 6:19 AM, stripes-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-10-05 Thread Poitras Christian
List Objet : Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long) +1. Though it will take one of us being dissatisfied *enough* to implement this ourselves :-) On Oct 2, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Simon wrote: In other words, in Stripes you'd have private User user; /* getters

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-10-05 Thread Poitras Christian
[mailto:xf2...@fastmail.fm] Envoyé : October-05-10 8:40 AM À : Stripes Users List Objet : Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long) Are you sure? I think that if you compile with debug info turned on, and your request parameters are named param1 and param2, they will be bound

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-10-05 Thread Evan Leonard
-Message d'origine- De : Evan Leonard [mailto:evan.leon...@gmail.com] Envoyé : October-04-10 4:59 PM À : Stripes Users List Objet : Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long) +1. Though it will take one of us being dissatisfied *enough* to implement this ourselves

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-10-05 Thread Evan Leonard
: October-05-10 8:40 AM À : Stripes Users List Objet : Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long) Are you sure? I think that if you compile with debug info turned on, and your request parameters are named param1 and param2, they will be bound correctly without the need

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-10-04 Thread Evan Leonard
+1. Though it will take one of us being dissatisfied *enough* to implement this ourselves :-) On Oct 2, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Simon wrote: In other words, in Stripes you'd have private User user; /* getters and setters */ public Resolution save() { // do something with user } In

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-10-02 Thread Simon
Funny, this thread reminds me 2 years ago at SpringOne, when I finally got a lead dev of Grails to admit that SpringMVC was good for building frameworks, but certainly not for building applications... It's interesting to hear Grails mentioned several times (once from me, I think). I'm using

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-10-02 Thread Simon
In other words, in Stripes you'd have private User user; /* getters and setters */ public Resolution save() {  // do something with user } In Spring MVC you'd have public void save(User user) {  // do something with user } The do somethings in both Stripes action beans and Spring

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-10-01 Thread VANKEISBELCK Remi
Hi Freddy, Yeah, or stuff like this : public ModelAndView save(HttpServletRequest, HttpServletResponse, User) All this model/view thing they have, plus the crappy so-called CoC... http://static.springsource.org/spring/docs/2.0.x/reference/mvc.html#mvc-coc I always found it quite ugly, and I

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-19 Thread Freddy Daoud
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:48:44 -0700 (PDT), Barry Davies barry.davi...@yahoo.com said many interesting things and had useful suggestions for the future of Stripes. BD aka RJ! Nice to see you again :) Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Cheers, Freddy

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-17 Thread Barry Davies
Development and its Future... (long) Hi Joel, We are 99% sure we are going to go with Spring MVC. We are still implementing the JPA/Spring based back end, so right now the UI is simply hello world, but it was pretty simple to get at least something put together. The other consideration was JSF 2

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future...

2010-09-12 Thread andres
...@brightminds.org Asunto: Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... Para: Stripes Users List stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net Fecha: sábado, 11 de septiembre, 2010 19:03 andres wrote: Attention must be paid on Stripes Around The Web, this is without

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future...

2010-09-12 Thread Nikolaos Giannopoulos
Development and its Future... Para: Stripes Users List stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net Fecha: sábado, 11 de septiembre, 2010 19:03 andres wrote: Attention must be paid on Stripes Around The Web, this is without updating a long time and many links are broken and this gives

[Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future...

2010-09-11 Thread andres
I ask about Stripes but I see that is no longer current discussion about future of stripes? I see that there are questions and answers on other issues, maybe someone could answer me this. That's what I ask Our Spanish company (400 employees) is looking for new replace Struts Framework. We

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future...

2010-09-11 Thread Nikolaos Giannopoulos
andres wrote: Attention must be paid on Stripes Around The Web, this is without updating a long time and many links are broken and this gives a bad image, because a person who decides to look for new Framework also look who use it? I agree and those are the things we need to do better as a

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future...

2010-09-11 Thread Soren Pedersen
Hi Just to say that we will also use Stripes in a heavy transactional application. I am certain that Stripes will perform efficiently. I have looked a lot in the source code and I feel very confident with the quality of what I saw. I am not worried :))) Regards Søren Den 11/09/2010 kl.

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (this one is long too)

2010-09-10 Thread andres
Framework structure. Excuse for bad English.). Regards. --- El dom, 5/9/10, Simon simonzm...@gmail.com escribió: De: Simon simonzm...@gmail.com Asunto: Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (this one is long too) Para: Stripes Users List stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (this one is long too)

2010-09-04 Thread karen
On 04-09-10 2:14, Simon wrote: feature is nice, but it lacks the ability to map any URL schema (unlike Spring MVC that could be rightfully defined our SNIP I feel this pain very often too. It was one of the things (though not the only thing) that motivated me to write the @ImportProperties

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-04 Thread Karen
Development and its Future... (long) This is off-topic, but I've never understood why the only two standard concurrency models are free threaded or single threaded servlets. What I want most of the time is session level serialization of requests so that only one transaction may run

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-04 Thread Joel Weight
Nikolaos and Freddy, Thanks for the insights, I really appreciate you guys (and everyone else participating in this thread) taking the time to talk about Stripes (and even competing frameworks) strengths and weaknesses, even if they are only perceived. I have yet to do all that much in Spring

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (this one is long too)

2010-09-04 Thread Simon
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Ross Sargant rsarg...@tvrc.com wrote: I agree with the sentiment that the framework is basically feature complete. I think Stripes is feature complete if you are building a 2003 era web site. ie. if your app consists of rendering HTML with forms and handling them

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (this one is long too)

2010-09-04 Thread Simon
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM, karen ka...@kdeveloper.com wrote: BTW does you're @ImportProperties supports a new form of URL mapping en building? It does but it's fairly limited compared to a full URL rewriting utility. It solves the problem of having a nested bean that would normally

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-03 Thread Freddy Daoud
Hi Joel, We are 99% sure we are going to go with Spring MVC.  We are still implementing the JPA/Spring based back end, so right now the UI is simply hello world, but it was pretty simple to get at least something put together. The other consideration was JSF 2.  I've been using JSF at my full

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-03 Thread Karen
-Original Message- I looked at Spring 3 briefly and liked what I saw. I didn't dig deep, so I can't form a real opinion (there is more to a real web app than a hello world form), but at least the Spring requires too much configuration argument is no longer valid. Spring 3 does its part

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (this one is long too)

2010-09-03 Thread Karen
-Original Message- From: arma...@uwm.edu [mailto:arma...@uwm.edu] Sent: Thursday, 02 September, 2010 16:04 To: Stripes Users List Subject: Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (this one is long too) While the project is mostly feature-complete, it feels difficult

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-03 Thread Nikolaos Giannopoulos
Joel, Just thought it would be interesting to echo Freddy's points from a different perspective. We are currently developing a social networking site that will span 8 countries and 2 languages and are inviting 500K users for starters. We are leveraging Stripes, Stripersist, JPA 2.0,

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (this one is long too)

2010-09-03 Thread Nikolaos Giannopoulos
is a pretty powerful combination ;-) --Nikolaos Karen wrote: -Original Message- From: arma...@uwm.edu [mailto:arma...@uwm.edu] Sent: Thursday, 02 September, 2010 16:04 To: Stripes Users List Subject: Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (this one is long too

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-03 Thread Ross Sargant
This is off-topic, but I've never understood why the only two standard concurrency models are free threaded or single threaded servlets. What I want most of the time is session level serialization of requests so that only one transaction may run on a particular HTTP session at a time but

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (this one is long too)

2010-09-03 Thread Simon
feature is nice, but it lacks the ability to map any URL schema (unlike Spring MVC that could be rightfully defined our closed competitor). This may be OK for developing applications, but for building websites that need to be Search Engine Friendly (all websites!) this can be a big show

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (this one is long too)

2010-09-02 Thread Rick Grashel
If a Stripes blog was started, I would be willing to contribute blog entries to it. I've built several applications using Stripes. I'm sure I could bring more than a few articles worth of content. -- Rick On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Lev d...@plektos.com wrote: My two cents: I agree with

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (this one is long too)

2010-09-02 Thread Morten Matras
Great. I think we're working towards a concept here. Anything else we should be doing: 1) Blogs for everybody that wants to write 2) New front page 3) Documentation remaining in the wiki for now Morten 2010/9/2 Rick Grashel rgras...@gmail.com If a Stripes blog was started, I would be

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (this one is long too)

2010-09-02 Thread Poitras Christian
Hi, I didn't read everything in this post since it's very long, but I will repeat what has been said in the MyBatis mail list. I think it might help to have additional ideas. The MyBatis developers agreed to add more developers in the framework. That was one reason for moving from Apache to

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-02 Thread Joel Weight
Hello Freddy, We are 99% sure we are going to go with Spring MVC. We are still implementing the JPA/Spring based back end, so right now the UI is simply hello world, but it was pretty simple to get at least something put together. The other consideration was JSF 2. I've been using JSF at my

[Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-01 Thread Nikolaos Giannopoulos
Hi, off-topic This week I was looking for a JSP caching solution (something that is right up the alley for Stripes Layout) and discovered that there was a product with excellent features called OSCache whose feature set was in deep alignment with my project's requirements. I became dismayed

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-01 Thread Soren Pedersen
Hi Nikolaos Thank you for a great mail :) I have the same thoughts as you, and I am actually ready to step in to the community, if I could find the way. I must admit though that I wanted to get the feeling of the community at first. However, I think your mail was the trigger, so: how can I

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-01 Thread Rick Grashel
These are some interesting observations, Nik. Realistically, for any open-source project to evolve, mature, and get to the next level.. you have to gain critical mass not with individual developers. You have to start to gain critical mass within other large and/or popular projects. For example,

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-01 Thread Joel Weight
Hello all, I'm new to the list and have been lurking for the last few months. Just to further illustrate the point Nikolaos made, I thought I would let you know my story. I've been asked to create a web site for a new company. Myself and my buddy are going to be the only programmers on the

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-01 Thread Dani Pardo
Indeed, very interesting thread. Hi, my name is Dani, and I joined the list... a few days ago. I also had the same feelings. IMHO, there's *a lot* of potential in stripes, the only thing it needs is *marketing*. For example, take Wiket. I've never used it, but there's plenity of posts in Dzone

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-01 Thread Freddy Daoud
Hi Joel, stripes. The answers were good, but still not enough to get myself and my friend to go with Stripes. We've since chosen another framework and are just starting implementation. I'm very curious and interested to know, which framework did you choose? By the way, this discussion is

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (this one is long too)

2010-09-01 Thread Freddy Daoud
Hi all, I have been thinking about this topic for quite some time now and, admittedly, have been avoiding it.. but now that the discussion has been sparked, I can't hide my head in the sand anymore. I am happy to see the responses to Nikolaos's post. Some very good points are made. Most of

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-01 Thread Simon
I guess I'll add my voice to this thread to say that I feel the same way. The activity level here seems to dwindling. Major new features are a rarity. I almost never see interesting blog posts about stripes or references to stripes on the wider web any more. Even on this mailing list,

Re: [Stripes-users] Stripes Development and its Future... (long)

2010-09-01 Thread azizi yazit
Hi all, I am not active stripes user as I am a programmer with no power to choose the technologies (framework others tool). But I have twice experince using stripes, once enterprise project (the architect was a stripes active user) and other is my personal project. Stripes was awesome, easy and