Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration support for sugar web activities

2014-01-12 Thread Lionel Laské
Collaboration means exchanging data between activities. It's the easy part because we could found lot of technologies that could do that: webRTC, web sockets or any higher layer API on top of it (like the nice TogetherJS API). BTW today collaboration in Sugar means also: - include a button share

Re: [Sugar-devel] Minutes of #fedora-qa meeting future of soas spin and sugar-desktop in fedora

2014-01-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thomas Gilliard satelli...@gmail.com wrote: Minutes of #fedora-qa meeting: Meeting ended Mon Jan 6 17:05:52 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . Minutes:

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Physics-13

2014-01-12 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4193 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.100 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28875/physics-13.xo Release notes: 13 ENHANCEMENTS: * Added palettes to set density, bouciness, and friction (w/Sai Vineet) * Added palette to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-12 Thread Dr. Gerald Ardito
Just to add my $.02, I agree with Walter and Claudia's approach in this paper. Making the specifics of learning visible to teachers and students, and doing the development from this perspective, I think is the best way to go. Thanks. Gerald On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Walter Bender

Re: [Sugar-devel] Minutes of #fedora-qa meeting future of soas spin and sugar-desktop in fedora

2014-01-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On Sunday, 12 January 2014, Peter Robinson wrote: On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thomas Gilliard satelli...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: Minutes of #fedora-qa meeting: Meeting ended Mon Jan 6 17:05:52 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration support for sugar web activities

2014-01-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
It might not come that easily but I think we need to support non-degraded collaboration between web activities inside Sugar. We don't need to interact with telepathy to do that, just with the UI layer. Telepathy and a new API can co-exist pretty easily. On 12 January 2014 11:20, Lionel Laské

Re: [Sugar-devel] Minutes of #fedora-qa meeting future of soas spin and sugar-desktop in fedora

2014-01-12 Thread Peter Robinson
There is a push to drop the DVD and only do lives. I am worried that the soas spin and sugar-desktop may get lost in the shuffle. We need to participate on #fedora-qa and lobby for our fedora future. While we should actually be actively participating in Fedora QA anyway because we

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration support for sugar web activities

2014-01-12 Thread Emil Dudev
About the telepathy part to send only the invites and establish the connection: I can't seem to be able to complete the invitation accepted process. Sometimes it works, sometimes not (mostly not). For normal sugar activities it's the same (with the exception that with them it mostly works, at

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration support for sugar web activities

2014-01-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 12 January 2014 19:01, Emil Dudev emildu...@gmail.com wrote: About the telepathy part to send only the invites and establish the connection: I can't seem to be able to complete the invitation accepted process. Sometimes it works, sometimes not (mostly not). For normal sugar activities

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration support for sugar web activities

2014-01-12 Thread Lionel Laské
Nice. It's why I think we need to separate the data exchange part of the API to the network handling (invitation, ...) part. Suraj and I worked on a first functional overview of what the presence API mean [1]. We hope to start a first implementation of a prototype of both the backend and the front

Re: [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-12 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Martin Dluhos mar...@gnu.org wrote: On 7.1.2014 01:49, Sameer Verma wrote: On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Martin

Re: [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-12 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Martin Dluhos mar...@gnu.org wrote: On

Re: [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-12 Thread Dr. Gerald Ardito
Agreed. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Sameer Verma

Re: [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-12 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] New year, new testing image

2014-01-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Sorry for the long delay, I started a draft response on a tablet that I didn't pick up for some time. On 01/05/2014 08:33 PM, Matthew Ciao wrote: Hi Bernie, how are you going there? Lng time no see, hope you're doing well mate! :) So I'm still here in Cambridge MA, enjoying the freezing