Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?

2012-01-09 Thread Samuel Klein
Yes, that would definitely work. There can't be more than a few dozen really common shell-based actions people want to take. It could be a 'hack my XO' activity that introduced you to the command line through specific things you might like to hack. - your icon - your name - your background

Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?

2012-01-07 Thread Samuel Klein
Understood. None of these valid concerns sound like reasons to obfuscate it - obfuscation doesn't solve the problem Sean mentions. For instance, you could have a version of terminal that let you explore but didn't let you write anything to disk; until you toggled a menu preference. At present

Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?

2012-01-07 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 04:30:08AM -0500, Samuel Klein wrote: Understood. None of these valid concerns sound like reasons to obfuscate it - obfuscation doesn't solve the problem Sean mentions. For instance, you could have a version of terminal that let you explore but didn't let you write

Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?

2012-01-04 Thread Sean DALY
The first time I found opened Terminal, I did an ls and saw that there were comands prefaced with sugar. I ran one out of curiosity, and wiped out the Journal, which taught me the valuable lesson that tinkering with the command line could destroy the environment... Sean On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at

Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?

2012-01-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Terminal is currently hidden by default on many builds.  How about unhiding it or replacing it with an activity that offers more of an intro to the command line? It is an important tool for understanding how your computer

Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?

2011-12-25 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
On 12/21/2011 07:58 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: It makes Terminal appear as a second-class activity when it should be a high-value first-class activity. Using Terminal can be fun, useful, illuminating. It is the ony activity we offer to really get a sense of how your computer works. And it is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?

2011-12-21 Thread Samuel Klein
It makes Terminal appear as a second-class activity when it should be a high-value first-class activity. Using Terminal can be fun, useful, illuminating. It is the ony activity we offer to really get a sense of how your computer works. And it is not just for diagnostics or advanced uses. A

Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?

2011-12-21 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
On 12/21/2011 07:58 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: It makes Terminal appear as a second-class activity when it should be a high-value first-class activity. Using Terminal can be fun, useful, illuminating. It is the ony activity we offer to really get a sense of how your computer works. And it is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?

2011-12-21 Thread Rafael Ortiz
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: ** On 12/21/2011 07:58 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: It makes Terminal appear as a second-class activity when it should be a high-value first-class activity. Using Terminal can be fun, useful, illuminating.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?

2011-12-21 Thread Stefan Unterhauser
maybe we finally enhance our terminal with sugar collaboration magic ... http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Terminal_Sharing or does the actual Terminal Activity that already ... ciao dogi On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Rafael Ortiz raf...@activitycentral.comwrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2011

Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?

2011-12-21 Thread Chris Leonard
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Rafael Ortiz raf...@activitycentral.com wrote: It would be nice to have a terminal that display when first opened some intro welcoming and links to bash documentation , one of the downsides is i18n. We do point our localizers upstream to

[Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?

2011-12-20 Thread Samuel Klein
Terminal is currently hidden by default on many builds. How about unhiding it or replacing it with an activity that offers more of an intro to the command line? It is an important tool for understanding how your computer works. ___ Sugar-devel mailing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?

2011-12-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Ok, returning to sugar-devel because I did Reply instead of Reply to all :) Can you explain what is the use case of this activity you are proposing? The terminal is ok, when you know what to do, is waiting for you. Why do you think there are a wrong message here? Gonzalo On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at

Re: [Sugar-devel] Free Terminal?

2011-12-20 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
On 12/20/2011 04:07 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Ok, returning to sugar-devel because I did Reply instead of Reply to all :) Can you explain what is the use case of this activity you are proposing? The terminal is ok, when you know what to do, is waiting for you. Why do you think there are a