[Sugar-devel] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Hi everybody, I'm very pleased to announce the first early preview of a new generation of SoaS XO-1 images. Those consist not only of the latest and greatest Sugar bits, but also a F11 base system and a special OLPC kernel based on 2.6.30. This means now that even power management actually

Re: [Sugar-devel] testing composition for speeding up graphics performance

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:39:30PM +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: I've put xcompmgr -a in my .xsession file I've had ti there for a while too. and everything works great. I haven't seen any artefacts anywhere in fact. Please change the volume from Terminal and observe the speaker icon's lack

[Sugar-devel] learning implode...

2009-06-17 Thread Sameer Verma
My daughter, who is 3 years and 7 months old has largely stayed away from the XO (or for that matter computers in general) other than mimicking me by turning on the XO and giving our guests/visitors an unexpected short speech on let me show you this computer. This is the one laptop per child. She

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem using sugar-update-control to update large (100+ MB) activity bundles

2009-06-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 03:15, C. Scott Ananiancsc...@cscott.net wrote: When I wrote the sugar updater, I included all the code necessary to transfer only the changed portions of a large zip file.  http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/cscott/sugar-update-control/tree/bitfrost/util/urlrange.py

Re: [Sugar-devel] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread S Page
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sebastian Dziallassebast...@when.com wrote: I'm very pleased to announce the first early preview of a new generation of SoaS XO-1 images. Excellent news, thanks! Put them on a USB key or a SD card, plug them into your XO ... Yes! ... and execute:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics Roadmap

2009-06-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 07:29, Edward Cherlinecher...@gmail.com wrote: Did you look at my Turtle Art version of Alan Kay's third-grade gravity lesson? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Gravity.odt I'm forwarding this to olpc-sur in case someone there wants to translate to spanish and give it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 17.06.2009, at 10:28, S Page wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sebastian Dziallassebast...@when.com wrote: I'm very pleased to announce the first early preview of a new generation of SoaS XO-1 images. Excellent news, thanks! I indeed! Put them on a USB key or a SD card,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 01:28:58AM -0700, S Page wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sebastian Dziallassebast...@when.com wrote: I'm very pleased to announce the first early preview of a new generation of SoaS XO-1 images. Excellent news, thanks! Put them on a USB key or a SD

Re: [Sugar-devel] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:40:31AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 17.06.2009, at 10:28, S Page wrote: Nooo, I want to keep my working 8.2.1 in NAND. Can I simply boot my XO from the USB or SD card? No, these images are meant for NAND install. For USB/SD we'd need yet another

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Sean DALY
You know where to find me :-) On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: On 06/17/2009 11:34 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:30, Sean DALYsdaly...@gmail.com  wrote: In my view it's never a mistake to indicate that a procedure will wipe

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Meshnode product...

2009-06-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/15/2009 10:15 AM, Sean DALY wrote: Thanks for that Sameer I'm sure that color scheme isn't accidental :-) They say it's Debian-based Simon - Do you think it would be useful or interesting to borrow one of these for LinuxTag? Could you or someone on the sugar-devel team possibly

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote: It seems build engineers go to a a lot of effort to create multiple ginormous downloads in .img/.usb/.iso/.bootable.gz formats when they're 99% the same files laid out in different file system(s) with appropriate

Re: [Sugar-devel] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Sebastian Dziallassebast...@when.com wrote: I'm very pleased to announce the first early preview of a new generation of SoaS XO-1 images. Those consist not only of the latest and greatest Sugar bits, but also a F11 base system and a special OLPC kernel based on

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:34:40AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:30, Sean DALYsdaly...@gmail.com wrote: In my view it's never a mistake to indicate that a procedure will wipe all data. We all have a learning curve and

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Meshnode product...

2009-06-17 Thread s . boutayeb
Selon Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: On 06/15/2009 10:15 AM, Sean DALY wrote: Thanks for that Sameer I'm sure that color scheme isn't accidental :-) They say it's Debian-based Simon - Do you think it would be useful or interesting to borrow one of these for LinuxTag? Could

Re: [Sugar-devel] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Sean DALY
Martin - I may be able to host that at the house (just need to convince my wife of the normality of having a gang of hungry geeks over), but Monday/Tuesdayish since off to LinuxTag later in the week Sean On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Martin Langhoffmartin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:41:05PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What if we developers only announce in developer-oriented forums and someone else (marketing team?) takes the task of communicating it to end users? [...] I suggest transforming it into this instead: Beware of the target

Re: [Sugar-devel] testing composition for speeding up graphics performance

2009-06-17 Thread Lucian Branescu
I've finally found an artefact, but I'm not sure what caused it. There is now a tall grey-ish bar on the left of the frame. It moves with the frame. 2009/6/17 Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:39:30PM +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: I've put xcompmgr -a in my

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 17.06.2009, at 12:56, Martin Dengler wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:41:05PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What if we developers only announce in developer-oriented forums and someone else (marketing team?) takes the task of communicating it to end users? [...] I suggest transforming

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote: Reading the docs, I think that jidgo will allow the user to download (say) a .iso and a .img (NAND) file by downloading the files that are contained in them and then re-assembling the .iso and .img files? You might

[Sugar-devel] ASLO vs. wiki.laptop.org activities (was Re: ASLO Suggestion)

2009-06-17 Thread S Page
[I removed some cc'd lists of which I'm not a member] Summary: Replacing http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/All with {{obsolete|link=http://activities.sugarlabs.org}} sounds great to me. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Sean DALYsdaly...@gmail.com wrote: OLPC has their list

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 01:38:32PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 17.06.2009, at 12:56, Martin Dengler wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:41:05PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What if we developers only announce in developer-oriented forums and someone else (marketing team?) takes

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Firing up ejabberd

2009-06-17 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
I hadn't done a checksum. But when mounting the image through virtualbox, it works fine. But when I burn the image, the disc wont even let me look at its contents Its as good as a blank disc. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 17.06.2009, at 14:09, Martin Dengler wrote: No, that's not the problem. It's people that don't know that they don't know what they're doing. My point is that I think we're worrying about people that a) want to be testers; and b) are so keen that they go copy-nanding (after getting a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] learning implode...

2009-06-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
How about writing this up for OLPC News? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Sameer Vermasve...@sfsu.edu wrote: My daughter, who is 3 years and 7 months old has largely stayed away from the XO (or for that matter computers in general) other than mimicking me by turning on the XO and giving our

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO vs. wiki.laptop.org activities (was Re: ASLO Suggestion)

2009-06-17 Thread Gabriel Eirea
Hi, Whatever the decision on this topic is, I would appreciate that the interests of the already installed base are taken into account. I agree that the Activities/All page is outdated and ASLO has a much better interface. However, at least here in Uruguay, most of the kids and teachers rely on

[Sugar-devel] Using web services to browse Internet Archive

2009-06-17 Thread James Simmons
The latest Read Etexts has a feature that lets you browse an offline catalog of books from Project Gutenberg and download the books you find to your journal. It's an impressive feature, but it isn't as useful as it might be because Read Etexts only works with plain text. So while there is a

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: new content bundle

2009-06-17 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Rafael Ortiz -- Forwarded message -- From: Rodolfo D. Arce S. rodolfoa...@eyuhoo.com Date: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:47 AM Subject: new content bundle To: de...@lists.laptop.org Hello: I'm trying to ensamble a content bundle.. I used the script in the wiki and the bundle maker..

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Implement tabs support

2009-06-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, attached are two patches that add tabs to Browse. One of the is for hulahop and the other is for Browse. Thanks, Tomeu From e18c2291f1c68b375a2d1731ccbbec7ff76ad073 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:19:21 +0200 Subject: [PATCH]

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics Roadmap

2009-06-17 Thread Gary C Martin
On 17 Jun 2009, at 06:29, Edward Cherlin wrote: Did you look at my Turtle Art version of Alan Kay's third-grade gravity lesson? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Gravity.odt I had a read, but it didn't get me very far, sorry – competing with an Alan Kay presentation is always going to be

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO vs. wiki.laptop.org activities (was Re: ASLO Suggestion)

2009-06-17 Thread Walter Bender
In the case of Turtle Art, I put a link from Activities/All to the corresponding ALSO page; now I just update ALSO, but it should be easy enough to follow that link. Easy enough to do for all the apps that have migrated. What I haven't done is try to make any changes to which activities are

Re: [Sugar-devel] testing composition for speeding up graphics performance

2009-06-17 Thread Gary C Martin
On 16 Jun 2009, at 20:50, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: we are considering using the composite extension in order to improve the perceived graphics performance of Sugar. It would be great if someone could test it by running the following. As root: yum install xcompmgr As normal user in the terminal

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem using sugar-update-control to update large (100+ MB) activity bundles

2009-06-17 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 03:15, C. Scott Ananiancsc...@cscott.net wrote: When I wrote the sugar updater, I included all the code necessary to transfer only the changed portions of a large zip file.  

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem using sugar-update-control to update large (100+ MB) activity bundles

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Bernie Innocentiber...@codewiz.org wrote: This means you'd have to change both the client-side (sugar-update-control, fairly simple) and the server side (in our case Mozilla Addons, fairly complex). The XS - which Bryan has - already has an rsync server using

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO vs. wiki.laptop.org activities (was Re: ASLO Suggestion)

2009-06-17 Thread David Farning
The Sugar Labs Activities Portal seems to be holding up pretty well under load. My suggestion would be to start phasing out the activities pages on w.lt.o Possible work flow. (Some of these may have been all ready) 1. Activity Developers - Start marking which Sugar version activities versions

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO vs. wiki.laptop.org activities

2009-06-17 Thread Chris Ball
Hi David, The Sugar Labs Activities Portal seems to be holding up pretty well under load. My suggestion would be to start phasing out the activities pages on w.lt.o Are you just talking about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ActivityName, or the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/* pages

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO vs. wiki.laptop.org activities

2009-06-17 Thread Walter Bender
AFAIK, there is not a mechanism in ASLO to replace the updater yet. Something to think about. But it may make more sense in the long run to have individual organizations maintain lists that point to the proper versions of activities that they want included/updated rather than centralizing it on

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO vs. wiki.laptop.org activities

2009-06-17 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Chris Ballc...@laptop.org wrote: Hi David,   The Sugar Labs Activities Portal seems to be holding up pretty   well under load.  My suggestion would be to start phasing out the   activities pages on w.lt.o Are you just talking about

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO vs. wiki.laptop.org activities

2009-06-17 Thread James Simmons
I've been maintaining ASLO and the wiki.laptop.org activities pages for both of my Activities. I'd be willing to give up the Wiki page if ASLO gave me someplace to put the level of detail I have on those pages. Now some of this detail could be cut down, but for Read Etexts at least how to

[Sugar-devel] translate.sugarlabs.org down?

2009-06-17 Thread Bastien
Hi Sayamindu, I can't access the translation interface: http://translate.sugarlabs.org/ Maintenance? -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO vs. wiki.laptop.org activities

2009-06-17 Thread S Page
Summary of activity pages on wiki.laptop.org * I believe Activities/All isn't used for Software_updater info. I just now marked it obsoleted by ASLO * Each activity's general info page mostly isn't used for Software_updater info; developers should put the {{Activity migrated to sl.o}} template

[Sugar-devel] [Physics Activity] Saving contraptions

2009-06-17 Thread Asaf Paris Mandoki
Hi, I've been doing some research and I think that the easiest way to save a world is by pickling. Pybox2d already supports it so it is pretty straightforward. I think this should be implemented at the level of Elements and not directly on the activity. Should I do it in the modified elements we

[Sugar-devel] Correct mailing list was Re: [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread David Farning
We have seriously hijacked the original thread:( This has not been much of an issue because the lists have been low enough traffic that everyone was able to keep track of everything. For the first six months, everyone in the project went to every irc meeting. As a result a lot of stuff was

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO vs. wiki.laptop.org activities

2009-06-17 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:38 PM, James Simmonsjim.simm...@walgreens.com wrote: I've been maintaining ASLO and the wiki.laptop.org activities pages for both of my Activities.  I'd be willing to give up the Wiki page if ASLO gave me someplace to put the level of detail I have on those pages.  Now

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO vs. wiki.laptop.org activities

2009-06-17 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK, there is not a mechanism in ASLO to replace the updater yet. Something to think about. Here is some back ground information on the server side update mechanism.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem using sugar-update-control to update large (100+ MB) activity bundles

2009-06-17 Thread Michael Stone
C. Scott Ananian wrote: It should be noted that trusting the CRC32 to validate the file contents is insecure -- but IIRC the security of the update scheme relies on other signatures (probably still unimplemented -- do you know anything about that, Michael?) so you shouldn't have to worry

Re: [Sugar-devel] new content bundle

2009-06-17 Thread S Page
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Rodolfo D. Arce S.rodolfoa...@eyuhoo.com wrote: I managed to create a bundle.xol but when i can't find the procedure to install it.. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Collections#Installing_one_collection , I just added instructions for installing from USB flash drive

[Sugar-devel] tutorials u can recommend?

2009-06-17 Thread Bryan Berry
subzero, i am trying to change 'quadirlaterals' to use regular dom elements for the buttons rather than drawings but am quite befuddled by canvas. I don't understand how it works. can u recommend to me some canvas tutorials? tks -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal,