.), but I dislike
Sugarlabs encouraging too invasive advertising - similarly as I would
dislike a movie player that made it easy to squeeze in advertisements
each 5 minutes.
Debian has as a declared goal to serve (not to entertain) its users.
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spread out keeps the general volume down.
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or should I just be patient?
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at startup (I have not yet
actually played with this activity) then please consider either not
doing so or instead include and use a (small) tune for that purpose.
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On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 09:02:44AM +0530, Kushal Das wrote:
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Looking at the source, it seems to connect to a hardcoded Internet
URL by default (nice music there, btw
, but please beware that then the translation efforts will not reach
all users of your software, as anal distributors will have to strip
wrongly licensed translations from their systems.
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^^^
He he, I like your way of expression ;-)
I shall do my best!
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all, its derivatives).
I also believe eggs to be specific to Python, and .xo packaging is not.
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[4] http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-datastore.git;h=381e549
P.S. Hmmm - Would be nice if Sugarlabs could shorten the URL for Git
commits below 72 chars (when using loose 7 char Git hash).
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On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 12:03:37PM -0500, Bobby Powers wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
I believe there was some discussion earlier on regarding dealing with
core X11 from Python. And regading the choice
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Simon Schampijer wrote:
Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:16:02PM +, Simon Schampijer wrote:
== Source ==
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose
it cleanly using newest gcc
toolchain (if I recall correctly).
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charge if later requested.
Distributing binary stuff without its sources is not outright bad, but
more complex and often more cumbersome: It is asking for surprises!
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.
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P.S.
And a moment ago I succeeded compiling Box2d on amd64 using GCC 4.3.2.
Still some way to go to have it properly compiled, but a good step in
the right direction.
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if username is sugar).
And you really do not need to store in subdirectories.
Still not 1-click...
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http://pyjs.org/
You write in Python and compile into an AJAX-enriched website.
Same code can also run as desktop apps: http://pyjd.org/
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#1234, OLPC#1235.
The logic is to always prepend Closes: and then either SL# or #
for each comma-separated ticket closed, or prepend OLPC# for tickets
closed at the laptop.org bugtracker.
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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:45:15AM +0100, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Use the recommended style as mentioned in Git documentation
somewhere: First line a summary of at most 40 chars, then empty line,
then optional detailed
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 08:51:20AM +1800, David Farning wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 02:48:20AM +1800, David Farning wrote:
Is it squeak and etoys that we are missing from
upstream
rename of same package (else I see no reason to change name for Debian).
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been completely dropped with the
recent rewrite of Sugar datastore, or if this info is perhaps
interesting...
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On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 07:25:54AM -0500, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 10:46:35AM +0100, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
OK, thanks
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On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 01:00:53PM +0100, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
What Debian package?
I found no mention of olpc-update anywhere in the source code for
Sugar, so I guess you are talking about something OLPC-specific
recent versions of core packages that it rely on) that it
could work even with existing deployments using Sugar 0.82!
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On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 07:22:41PM +0100, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 05:24:53PM +0100, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Sascha
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On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 05:33:09PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote:
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 07:07:02PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
[Ubuntu python-gconf has RPATH setting]
If this turns out to be the case, you should probably file a
bugreport
as fixed
and then unfixed again) that the people actually working on running
ahead of Debian for this specific issue are unskilled in packaging
libraries.
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powerpc64? How about Pentium optimizations for ia32 (so-called i686)?
Imagine Chat. How can the end-user know that version 60 and newer won't
work on 0.82? It cannot be expressed in the packaging, only on some web
page that the user then needs to read ahead of updating.
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On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:24:20AM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Debian POV: Someone needs to volunteer packaging
sugar-etoys-activity. Drop an email to
debian-olpc-de
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On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:38:27PM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote:
On 2/11/09, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:24:20AM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk
wrote
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On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 03:38:04PM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
No need to get into details of what exactly is flawed with my
packaging style, or how you would do things
duplicate similar
temporary hackish approach, postponing a more optimal distributed
approach even further.
Debian is blamed for developing too slow. Above will help slow down
distributed efforts!
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with
0.82 in Debian seems to work fine.
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gdm you can only pick a gdm item, not a binary directly.
Gdm should invoke sugar, not sugar-emulator.
Hope that clarifies.
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:16:26PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote:
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:53:48AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
If you're logging in to Sugar directly from gdm,
then it should run sugar.
^^ what's it? or did you mean you
make her/him try imagine on their
own what kind of place it would actually become.
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On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 03:53:41PM +0100, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
+DEFAULT_WIDTH = 1024
+DEFAULT_HEIGHT = 768
How about adjusting that patch to keep old values by default, but
provide commandline arguments and perhaps
0 (fullscreen) and -1 (random)
2) Add configfile parsing (gconf?) of (at least) width and height
3) Set internal defaults (both width and height) to -1
4) Provide sample configfile with defaults set to 0
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just starting up in a different
resolution.
Don't know, but it seems Xephyr supports xrandr.
This related discussion might be relevant: http://butterfeet.org/?p=26
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#Publish_source_tarballs_for_each_release
Agreed: That's where I as a distributor would expect to find the best
quality activities, even those not part of Glucose.
:-)
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(which is a
derivative of Fedora, I believe).
You (among others, and quite understandably so!) seem to confuse the
Desktop developed by Sugarlabs with the distributions including it.
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Deployments, is that so,
or do you believe this official Schoolserver change works on 0.82 too?
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for distributions.
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its About
this system from lsb_release.
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images?
SoaS is based on 0.83.x thus all configs are now in gconf
it could be changed by sugar-control-panel command
(not sure about direct changing gconf's parameters)
I believe the best approach is to use gconftool.
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:14:00PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 09:44, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 09:02:53AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
The question is, when I download latest, and find
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:46:36PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Do you want that to stay that way (i.e. all distros need
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:22:13AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I can understand your frustration. But perhaps you need to aim
differently.
Correction: Perhaps *we* need to aim differently. It is off course not
your problem - we all loose
written å, but for names specifically it
often has a significance of being family names with a long proud trail.
My middle name is Smedegaard and not Smedegård. :-)
/offtopic
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, right?
The I can volunteer for that. I already do same task for 10-15 other
lists that I am admin for.
If anyone cares, I use the commandline tool listadmin, which makes the
task much faster.
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, not listadmin. Fair enough, but then I can't
comment much on the configuration of the list.
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suspect it may vary a lot, depending on compile
options of e.g. xulrunner).
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On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 11:27:00AM -0500, Bobby Powers wrote:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 09:21:50AM +, Bobby Powers wrote:
An informal test showed that Browse in sugar-emulator
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On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 03:06:26PM -0500, Bobby Powers wrote:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
[1] Pages like http://dotnetperls.com/Content/Browser-Memory.aspx
demonstrate how WebKit-based browsers in the past
) can be configured
to clear its memory caches when the kernel signals that it is low on
memory.
Any chance Sugar (and its dependencies) can do that on normal Linux
systems one day?
Try google for gtk mem_notify or look here:
http://lwn.net/Articles/267451/
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, this is awesome work!
Wauuuw!
Thanks for bringing some attention to this.
...and thanks for the page itself, Walter!
(TurtleArt just ended on top of my list of packages to install next for
Debian!)
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to help package, and I want multiple
concurrent tracks - probably latest stable + very latest.
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On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:32:55PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote:
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:07:04PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
What workarounds?
Using Python 2.5 instead of Python 2.6 in Ubuntu Jaunty by changing
the symlink /usr/bin/python
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 01:03:13AM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote:
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:08:24PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
(*) Really bad hack, will break updates of unrelated packages in
very interesting ways.
I must admit that I have
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On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 12:43:04PM +0200, Morgan Collett wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:12, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
- From a distributor point of view, it would be nice to be able to
look at the Homepage of each part of Sugar (sugar
floating around unofficially.
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On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 03:22:12PM +0100, Guillaume Desmottes wrote:
Le mercredi 01 avril 2009 à 14:14 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:50:52AM +0100, Guillaume Desmottes wrote:
The Debian package write logs to /var/log
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On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 03:22:12PM +0100, Guillaume Desmottes wrote:
Le mercredi 01 avril 2009 à 14:14 +0200, Jonas
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Le mercredi 01 avril 2009 à 17:37 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
1. Is it a Debian package of Gadget, ejabberd or something else?
The link I pasted you is a git branch
cc'ed this thread, despite the note about it.
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to be aware of, not mandate it for standard blah blah
(as the GNU project do, I believe).
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technically are applications or programs but not
promoted as such, the school makes sense to not advertise as a
server: From a user perspective it is really irrelevant if it is one
server or a cloud of services or an integral part of the internet.
Kind regards,
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On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:17:22AM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
I like calling it just school. I believe school is metaphorically
exactly what you describe as neighborhood
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On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:31:46AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
2009/4/2 Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Please help distributors by documenting such config options that
might
,
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On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:25:46AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 01:39, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
sugar-base 0.84.0 has (compared to 0.82.2) added a few files below
/src/sugar/dispatch. Most of them contains
, as that is the framework currently used for
most of Sugar (and, I believe, the only generic framework currently
used: those not using that framework use something non-generic).
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[x
about Qt there, only
PyGTK.
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be
installed manually on top of my packages, and when packaged officially
for Debian I intend to include it.
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standard DNS
internally and on the wire, setup DNS-SD entries in a standard
nameserver on the XS, and extend Sugar to support DNS-SD.
I'd be happy to help compose standard BIND9 files, if that is what will
be used on the XS.
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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 04:08:30PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
DNS-SD using unicast DNS seems reasonable to me too.
If we can do without the avahi gunk, and use it in a way
DNS-SD to mDNS, then in
fact you are still relying on DNS-SD, just using an additional layer on
top of it.
A good introduction (assumably more reliable than Wikipedia) is
http://www.dns-sd.org/
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your_first_machine sugar-emulator
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- Jonas
Debian (not Ubuntu) developer
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that you will need the optimizations
provided by the olpcsound build.
I do not use SuSE, and do not hit same bug on Debian, so just shooting
in the dark here.
Kind regards,
- Jonas
Package maintainer for CSound packaging for Debian (but no expert in
CSound or C++).
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might be scattered at wiki pages, mailinglists and git commit comments.
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On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 11:30:22AM -0500, David Farning wrote:
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 06:04:06PM -0500, David Farning wrote:
The conical source of information on activities
to not risk
hiding failures (you need to do set -e inside each subshell).
Here's my suggested variant of above:
sandbox=$(mktemp -t cups-odftops.XX)
mkdir -m 077 $sandbox || exit 1
Enjoy :-)
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, which means add a random number that is 4 characters
long.
(umask 077 mkdir $sandbox) || exit 1
If a system for some reason fails to set umask, above command silently
continues!
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)?
GNOME can work with different window managers too, even if it ships with
this one as default.
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. In
other words, it may be illegal to publish SoaS as pre-blessed images.
:-(
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On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 03:45:21PM -0300, Andrea Mangiatordi wrote:
Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Beware that if blessing is similar to that of classic MacOS, then
it includes adding a small binary piece that is *not* free software.
In other
/evolution.shtmland Balsa
http://www.balsa.net/ mail readers.
The use of the proper sorting algorithm does not change the lousy track
record of Evolution due to other parts of that monstruous application
:-(
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On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 06:55:12PM -0300, Andrea Mangiatordi wrote:
Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
You cannot run the currently released SoaS on a PowerPC Macintosh.
That's why I wrote so I can't test it directly ;)
Ah, ok :-)
SoaS is only
know about this till now?
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because they are
expremely popular so getting acquainted to them is very valuable for
children.
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