Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Icon for toolkit

2013-08-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/21/2013 03:44 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: 2013/8/21 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: I like the Join_Developer approach, although it seems a bit overly complex. Yes. I will try removing the buddy, keeping only the tools. Mind that we already have the icon for the control panel

Re: [Sugar-devel] rethinking your icon customization patch

2013-06-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
This thread is about the technical solving of the issue, did we agree on making this change, really? I am not at all convinced. What do people think about my proposal with adding a picture/drawing per kid that is part of the Palette then? We can see if we want to transfer this compressed to

Re: [Sugar-devel] rethinking your icon customization patch

2013-06-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/20/2013 12:16 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On Thursday, 20 June 2013, Simon Schampijer wrote: This thread is about the technical solving of the issue, did we agree on making this change, really? I am not at all convinced. The technical solution proposed here has pretty strong

Re: [Sugar-devel] rethinking your icon customization patch

2013-06-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/20/2013 01:28 PM, Walter Bender wrote: I agree that the technical solution we have come up with to a large extent obviates the need for consensus around whether or not to implement this feature as it pushes it to the user space in the from of an activity. (Gonzalo and I have been

Re: [Sugar-devel] About customization of xo icon

2013-06-19 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/16/2013 07:19 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: I think we should decide if changing the xo icon is a feature we _really_ want include in sugar. I am not sure if add too much value, but probably can add confusion, more if is applied in all the places where the xo icons is used , like the actual

Re: [Sugar-devel] Use ObjectChooser filtering by activity

2013-06-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/13/2013 06:35 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 13 June 2013 18:26, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 June 2013 18:23, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: That is the reason is better modify the behavior of the activity filter, than allow any random list of mime types.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Use ObjectChooser filtering by activity

2013-06-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/17/2013 03:37 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: I like the idea of disabling the filter in this objectchooser. On 17 June 2013 15:34, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 06/13/2013 06:35 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 13 June 2013 18:26, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] Licensing of the javascript libraries

2013-06-13 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/13/2013 01:32 AM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: 2013/6/7 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com: I'm still undecided really but since it's important to make a call soon, my vote goes for Apache, both for sugar-web and for activities we develop. I'm far from expert on licenses, but given Daniel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Licensing of the javascript libraries

2013-06-13 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/13/2013 11:29 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 13 June 2013 11:26, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 06/13/2013 01:32 AM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: 2013/6/7 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com: I'm still undecided really but since it's important to make a call soon, my vote goes

Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n

2013-06-06 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/06/2013 01:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, I setup a fork of webL10n. I amdified it and replaced API with the gaia one minus the b2g specific stuff. https://github.com/sugarlabs/webL10n I do not see any changes from you there, why do we need the for again? Simon

Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n

2013-06-06 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/06/2013 11:34 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On Thursday, 6 June 2013, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 06/06/2013 01:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, I setup a fork of webL10n. I amdified it and replaced API with the gaia one minus the b2g specific stuff. https://github.com/sugarlabs

Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n

2013-06-06 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/06/2013 11:38 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: I'm not sure they really need to be on a branch btw. I've doing that to keep master the same of upstream. But maybe fetching the upstream repo on another remote gives everything you need. Yes, maybe using the master branch for the changes is a bit

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gtk3 sugar on Android

2013-06-05 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/03/2013 01:15 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hi, It seems like things are coming together pretty nicely for a port of gtk3 sugar on Android. * libhybris is making progress http://mer-project.blogspot.fi/2013/05/wayland-utilizing-android-gpu-drivers.html * Gtk3 has been ported to wayland.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking web activities on Windows/OS X

2013-06-02 Thread Simon Schampijer
Am 02.06.2013 um 23:52 schrieb Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com: Hello, it seems like we could increase a lot the number of potential contributors by making it easy to hack on web activities and libraries on Windows and OS X. Not many people are running Linux and installing it is not

Re: [Sugar-devel] Broken build, terminal

2013-05-31 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/31/2013 09:39 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, the build is still broken because of this issue. Can we please fix or revert asap? Build bugs should be fixed with the highest priority because they affects everyone, not just your activity. Pushed a tmp-workaround to get the build going:

[Sugar-devel] Renaming HTML --- Web

2013-05-31 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, we an informal discussion we agreed on calling the activities that are coded in a browser-supported programming language (such as JavaScript, combined with a browser-rendered markup language like HTML) and reliant on a common web browser to render the application executable [1]: Web

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to deploy the webactivity libraries

2013-05-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/29/2013 08:17 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Since I'm the one proposing the implementation, and I'm actually not too keen about the idea itself, let me take a step back before I get blamed for it forever :) My feeling is that we should *not* implement this for 0.100 but rather consider (very

Re: [Sugar-devel] Broken build, terminal

2013-05-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
, attr = page.vt.get_text(is_selected, None) AttributeError: 'Terminal' object has no attribute 'get_text' Caused by commit b90dac1ad2b8916b123e71b73848636f83fa9fe7 Author: Simon Schampijer si...@laptop.org Date: Sat Nov 3 15:17:09 2012 +0100 Get back a working activity history, SL #4131

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.98.7

2013-05-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.98.7.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.98.7 (Simon Schampijer) * Add a binding for gconf_client_set_list (using strings) (Daniel Narvaez) ___ Sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] Broken build, terminal

2013-05-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/30/2013 12:00 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: The upstream bug seems to have no activity? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690610 Right, that is why I have no clue what fix Gonzalo means. Anyhow, he will let us know. Simon ___

[Sugar-devel] How to deploy the webactivity libraries

2013-05-29 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, we talked yesterday on irc about how to handle the deployment of the webactivity libraries like sugar-html-graphics. We came up with three basic ways of dealing with it. It follows a summary. Please comment, fill in the missing items. It is an interesting item that needs discussion and

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to deploy the webactivity libraries

2013-05-29 Thread Simon Schampijer
for usage. Thanks, Simon For hosted activities I think the right solution is loading from a web url, but we don't even have to worry about that case until we actually have a permission system in place. On 29 May 2013 12:29, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, we talked

Re: [Sugar-devel] Error doing ./osbuild build

2013-05-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/28/2013 01:16 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On Tuesday, 28 May 2013, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: [..] * Split the compilation, one part to compile sugar and another to compile sugar-web, sugar-web is more unstable, and have a lot of issues. This would add more maintenance, buildbot etc work that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-build] Anyone running sugar-build on i386 distros?

2013-05-24 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/24/2013 03:49 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if anyone at all is using sugar-build on i386. I suppose everyone has x86_64 hardware these days but maybe people are still installing i386 distros, it's the Ubuntu default for example. It's just that maintaing i386 buildbot

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-artwork-0.98.5

2013-05-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.98.5.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.98.5 (Simon Schampijer) * Added function prototypes for theme_* to satisfy f19's gcc (William Orr) * Remove black background in Browse tab pages - SL #4469

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.98.6

2013-05-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.98.6.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.98.6 (Simon Schampijer) * Use gettext algorithm to determine locale for activity.linfo (Walter Bender) * Replaced deprecated GObject methods

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.98.8

2013-05-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.98.8.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.98.8 (Simon Schampijer) * Update Sucrose version for 0.98.8 (Simon Schampijer) * use read_byte_async (Walter Bender) * Complete port to introspection; fix problem with language

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-build after osbuild change report

2013-05-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/20/2013 07:43 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 05/20/2013 05:52 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 20 May 2013 12:48, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, great. Would be fantastic if '--help' would print the list of possible arguments. I'd like to avoid maintaining the docs

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-build] Is webkitgtk becoming a barrier?

2013-05-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/19/2013 01:41 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hey, It seems like building webkitgtk is a bit of a pain for many people. I would like people feedback on how bad of an obstacle it really is and about a couple of possible solutions: 1 Have buildbot generate snapshots of the base system

Re: [Sugar-devel] Requiring test coverage for new code

2013-05-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/18/2013 07:36 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: 2013/5/18 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com: On 17 May 2013 15:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Simon, Manuel, any feedback about this? I see a few possible levels 1 Everything, bugfixes included 2 Every feature patch 3 Every

Re: [Sugar-devel] Could someone please add me to the Sugarlabs organization on github.

2013-05-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/19/2013 12:43 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: I tested it now. There was a couple of leftovers in sugar-html-activity and sugar-html-template. I pushed fixes for these. I went without a review for the sake of avoiding regressions. If anyone has comments I'm happy to fix them now, but they was

[Sugar-devel] Update docs

2013-05-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, the docs have been updated for the 'osbuild'-change [1]. The documentation pointed to by our README [2] is not [3]. Do we have a new documentation url already? /me lost track Cheers, Simon [1] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/build.md [2]

[Sugar-devel] sugar-build after osbuild change report

2013-05-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, I had a sugar-build repo before the osbuild change. I did a git pull in my sugar-build directory and then run ./osbuild help. I got the following: [erikos@t61 sugar-build]$ ./osbuild --help Installing virtualenv... Done. /home/erikos/sugar-build/build/out/sandbox/install/bin/python:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Update docs

2013-05-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/20/2013 10:40 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: I think the buildbot slave which uploads the docs hasn't yet had a successfull build since the doc was changed, so no updates yet. I'm on it, I should have probably made all these changes a bit more gradually. Great! Did the infra team handed out

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-build after osbuild change report

2013-05-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/20/2013 10:48 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 20 May 2013 10:12, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, I had a sugar-build repo before the osbuild change. I did a git pull in my sugar-build directory and then run ./osbuild help. I got the following: [erikos@t61 sugar-build

Re: [Sugar-devel] Update docs

2013-05-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/20/2013 12:13 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 20 May 2013 12:07, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 05/20/2013 10:40 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: I think the buildbot slave which uploads the docs hasn't yet had a successfull build since the doc was changed, so no updates yet. I'm

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-build after osbuild change report

2013-05-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/20/2013 05:52 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 20 May 2013 12:48, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, great. Would be fantastic if '--help' would print the list of possible arguments. I'd like to avoid maintaining the docs in two places :) Though perhaps using docker we can

Re: [Sugar-devel] Requiring test coverage for new code

2013-05-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
How does the test coverage looks like? Human testing or automated tests? Thanks, Simon On 05/17/2013 03:13 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Simon, Manuel, any feedback about this? I see a few possible levels 1 Everything, bugfixes included 2 Every feature patch 3 Every patch to the new

Re: [Sugar-devel] Github issue tracking

2013-05-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
Am 11.05.2013 um 16:45 schrieb Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/issues/27 We should probably decide if we want to keep using trac instead and if so turn the issue

[Sugar-devel] Git history with merges from git hub

2013-05-10 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, with the merges from Github we do get a non ideal git history. The merge pull requests do only add value as they show who did authorize the merge. But they can be in another order to the actual commit. One way to handle this would be to do a git rebase before pushing and avoid the merge

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2013-05-08

2013-05-08 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/08/2013 03:02 PM, Walter Bender wrote: == Sugar Digest == 1. Sugar Labs has been given 8 slots for student interns for Google Summer of Code [1]. This means we'll be able to cover a lot ground this summer: we have some very strong proposals and a great mentoring team. The next step is for

Re: [Sugar-devel] discussion about dropping the emulator from the sugar package...

2013-05-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
Thanks Daniel for the writeup. On 05/06/2013 12:35 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 6 May 2013 11:47, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Yes sugar-runner should just work in fedora as a replacement of sugar-emulator. It only needs to be packaged. Why isn't it included in the sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH TamTam 1/2 v2] Output to ALSA directly from csound

2013-05-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/03/2013 02:42 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Hi Daniel, Already released MusicKeyboard with this change, and waiting confirmation to release TamTam activities. Gonzalo Is that in version 7? I still hear cracking sounds when using the keyboard. Or maybe those are other cracking sounds then

Re: [Sugar-devel] discussion about dropping the emulator from the sugar package...

2013-05-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/07/2013 12:44 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 7 May 2013 10:01, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Advantages of having it together is that as the sugar release changes the changes are made to sugar the changes to sugar-runner are in lock step so you should never get into a

Re: [Sugar-devel] discussion about dropping the emulator from the sugar package...

2013-05-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/07/2013 01:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: I think is important Fedora (and other distros) have a option to run sugar in a window in Gnome. If not, is more difficult develop activities. Gonzalo I think a developer is off well in just use sugar-build for that purpose. At least as long as

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Journal share activity

2013-05-03 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/03/2013 02:26 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: Hi, Manuel and myself have been looking at the work-flow for the Journal share activity these days: http://activities.sugarlabs.** org//en-US/sugar/addon/4656http

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Journal share activity

2013-05-03 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/03/2013 03:54 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: I think there are two fundamental differences: - one-to-many: you share an item publically to all of the members of the session, the ones that are available should be visible in one list, in the mockup at the top left, everyone can download any of

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Journal share activity

2013-05-02 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, Manuel and myself have been looking at the work-flow for the Journal share activity these days: http://activities.sugarlabs.org//en-US/sugar/addon/4656 We discussed the design completely independent of possible technical constraints we will see what we can do, and what we can not but we

Re: [Sugar-devel] Prototype python - js IPC

2013-04-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 04/25/2013 11:59 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, I wrote a quick prototype for a possible python - js IPC. sugar-toolkit-gtk3 patch https://github.com/dnarvaez/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/commit/5ba4e19732b4eec688dd73be8408c0d8e6a91299 hello-world patch

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] G_MIN/MAX constants have been moved into GObject overrides

2013-04-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
From: Simon Schampijer si...@laptop.org See pygobject c2aa6f0d0ed4c4e60f081b106dc7a65513963fce --- extensions/deviceicon/battery.py | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/extensions/deviceicon/battery.py b/extensions/deviceicon/battery.py index 21dc5f3..6bf27ef

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] G_MIN/MAX constants have been moved into GObject overrides

2013-04-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
The patch works with the latest Pygobject 3.8.x but as well in the 3.4.x series. Actually, using GLib.MAXINT32 would work as well. I will ask on #python what the correct/better one is. Regards, Simon On 04/25/2013 12:45 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: From: Simon Schampijer si...@laptop.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] G_MIN/MAX constants have been moved into GObject overrides

2013-04-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 04/25/2013 12:53 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: The patch works with the latest Pygobject 3.8.x but as well in the 3.4.x series. Actually, using GLib.MAXINT32 would work as well. I will ask on #python what the correct/better one is. Regards, Simon Confirmed on #python, we should use

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] G_MIN/MAX constants have been moved into GObject overrides

2013-04-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
Thanks, pushed to master and 0.98 (as F19 will package 0.98 and we need that fix there). Simon On 04/25/2013 02:38 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: +1 let's push this. 2013/4/25 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: On 04/25/2013 12:53 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: The patch works with the latest

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Color Palette: get back horizontal padding - SL #4325

2013-04-24 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 04/19/2013 03:51 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: 2013/4/18 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: Hi Manuel, your patch does fix the Write-Color-Palette. Which is the Abacus-Palette, the custom one? Is Walter aware of this fix and would remove his workaround (at least in master)? Yes

[Sugar-devel] Status for developing Sugar on Ubuntu

2013-04-23 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, I just had another request for developing Sugar on Ubuntu. The wiki says to use sweets [1]. From what I have heard currently people on Ubuntu have been using sugar-build just fine. Should we update the docs and point devs to sugar-build? I think that section could see some update as

Re: [Sugar-devel] Status for developing Sugar on Ubuntu

2013-04-23 Thread Simon Schampijer
-build, while a great tool for developers, may be too volatile of an environment for end users. IMHO, we still have a significant gap in our Ubuntu support. regards. -walter On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: Hi, I just had another request

Re: [Sugar-devel] Meeting about HTML activities

2013-04-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 04/17/2013 10:58 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, we are going to kick off the work on HTML activities for 0.100 with a meeting. Time: 22 April 2013 (14:00 UTC) Place: #sugar-meeting (freenode) It would be really useful to know how many people are interested to contribute, so please try to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chromium integration inside the sugar shell (was Re: Kicking off HTML5 activities work)

2013-04-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 04/17/2013 05:39 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Thanks Daniel. Lots of interesting points here! [...] 3. I see this project as a way of taking us closer to Sugar (in some sense) on Android. Can Chrome webapps work as first-class citizens on Android? That's actually something I was thinking

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chromium integration inside the sugar shell (was Re: Kicking off HTML5 activities work)

2013-04-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 04/22/2013 12:24 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 04/17/2013 05:39 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Thanks Daniel. Lots of interesting points here! [...] 3. I see this project as a way of taking us closer to Sugar (in some sense) on Android. Can Chrome webapps work as first-class citizens on Android

[Sugar-devel] [MINUTES] HTML activities meeting

2013-04-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 04/22/2013 11:40 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Time: 22 April 2013 (14:00 UTC) Place: #sugar-meeting (freenode) More info http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-April/042558.html Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2013-04-22T14:04:27.html Log:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chromium integration inside the sugar shell (was Re: Kicking off HTML5 activities work)

2013-04-18 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 04/17/2013 07:20 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: But is WebKit so much better? For example the WebKit2 decision _seems_ to have been made by Apple engineers without even talking to major contributors. The gtk bits are

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chromium integration inside the sugar shell (was Re: Kicking off HTML5 activities work)

2013-04-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 04/11/2013 09:52 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, I spent some time today thinking and experimenting with Chromium integration and I have a more detailed plan to propose now. There is an important premise to be made. In both Chromium and Firefox OS, application's installation is very much

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chromium integration inside the sugar shell (was Re: Kicking off HTML5 activities work)

2013-04-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 04/13/2013 02:42 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 12 April 2013 23:18, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lionel, we are more or less understanding each other :) I think there are really three possible steps 1 A WebView with an html5/javascript based sugar-toolkit 2 Support for web

Re: [Sugar-devel] github (was Re: Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews)

2013-03-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/27/2013 09:03 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 27 March 2013 16:23, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: I know all this can be replaced by a fork pull workflow, and I'm used to do that in github. But gitorius interface is not as good as github, in my opinion. By the way, if we have

Re: [Sugar-devel] can't 'yum update' from virtual environment

2013-03-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/28/2013 10:51 AM, Basanta Shrestha wrote: Hi all, I am trying to build os for XO-1.75. I have installed fedora 14 as main OS and installed fedora for ARM (Fedora 12) under virtual machine. Everything including network is working from within virtual OS and I can ping outer world as well.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Tuxmath on 0.96+ mystery

2013-03-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/27/2013 11:03 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Another option is use http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/nicaragua/Tuxmath-3.xo and tuxmath packaged in fedora. Gonzalo Ok, the AND is important here. Would be good to write down the clear steps to get this into a build. The no-sound option on the

Re: [Sugar-devel] JournalShare status

2013-03-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/27/2013 10:57 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: I have created a page in the wiki to describe the status of JournalShare activity. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/JournalShare Enjoy Easter Gonzalo Thanks Gonzalo for the write-up! The first thing that caught my eye was the way to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-27 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/26/2013 09:55 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: 2013/3/26 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com: [...] We also had periodic design meetings guiding features. I wonder if that kind of discussion could be had on the mailing list rather than in meetings. It's problematic to find a time that works

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Music Keyboard-6

2013-03-27 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/21/2013 08:06 PM, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4654 Sugar Platform: 0.98 - 0.98 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28522/music_keyboard-6.xo Release notes: This activity show a piano keyboard, and in

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Music Keyboard-6

2013-03-27 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/27/2013 12:27 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: On 03/21/2013 08:06 PM, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.**org/addon/4654http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4654 Sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0.100 release schedule

2013-03-27 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/27/2013 01:36 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, here is an initial schedule for 0.100 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Roadmap Notes: * Still unclear if it's going to be 0.100 or 1.0. We should probably decide after we know what the focus of the release is going to be. That sounds

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0.100 release schedule

2013-03-27 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/27/2013 06:58 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 27 March 2013 18:47, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: * I have not allocated dates for unstable tarballs. Is it actually worth spending time building those? Is anyone using them? So far, Fedora has been picking them up and they made

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/25/2013 01:27 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: While I agree in theory with all this, we can improve our actual situation if we look at our resources, time and people. * Time: we don't have a schedule, then feature discussion can't start. We can improve if we have a clear path and start to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/25/2013 09:32 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Forgot to reply all... -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com Date: 25 March 2013 21:12 Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews To: Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de On 25

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/26/2013 11:13 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 26 March 2013 10:53, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: That is bad of course. Could have been several reasons. Maybe the decoupling of patches and the bug tracker, maybe just felt of the table... Sometimes a ping is valid option

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/26/2013 12:21 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: I would like to applaud the discussion. Yes, I think we are blocking too much, in regards to stuff that is out of bugfixing, and polishing the gtk3 port. This is indeed not good for the community. When I started in this project, my patches

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/26/2013 01:20 PM, Walter Bender wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, we are pretty late in the cycle for the next release without much development having been landed on the master branch. At this point I think we need to consider what

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hey Daniel, thanks for the write-up! It is true that patch review, especially of non-bugfix patches is slow and can be sometimes frustrating for all parties involved, the reviewer, the maintainer and the submitter. To improve that situation, I think we have to put some lights on all those

Re: [Sugar-devel] Network proxy, configuration

2013-03-15 Thread Simon Schampijer
For this Feature it would be good to have a look at the exact use case that originated this feature request. Activity Central worked on it, maybe they can give us details about the request from their client to know which exact case we are trying to solve. Simon Am 15.03.2013 um 04:29 schrieb

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar PATCH] sl#3833: Now, the palettes appear fine in the bottom frame-tray.

2013-03-08 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hey Ajay, thanks for the new patch, looks like this solves the previous issues we have been seeing there. On 03/06/2013 01:30 PM, Ajay Garg wrote: The solution has been build upon the no-caching solution provided by erikos at http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4419#comment:4 Theerafter, the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [write PATCH] sl#4436: Making collaboration work again.

2013-02-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 02/21/2013 04:35 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: 2013/2/21 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: I've had to make a similar change in my activities as well. (I guess I missed the patch go by when self._shared_activity became self.shared_actvity) There is a also a method,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] online account management

2013-02-19 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi Walter and Raul, this looks like a Feature scope work to me, I would like to see a Feature discussion about this first. If you fill out the form [1] it will help to discuss the separate points. Thanks, Simon [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Policy On 02/19/2013 04:13 AM,

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Journal toolbar: add tooltip to favorite filter

2013-02-19 Thread Simon Schampijer
From: Simon Schampijer si...@laptop.org This patch adds the tooltip 'Favorite entries' to the favorite filter button in the Journal toolbar. The button is a ToggleToolButton and with the recent change in the toolkit-gtk3 63b8e87b1a99a854e9adbb1579b1e05244d2dc4 we do hide the tooltip when

[Sugar-devel] [Feature] Starting an activity in a different locale than the system locale

2013-02-19 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, when talking about the 'grab watch hands' feature [1] in the Clock activity I came across the desire to show the written clock information (e.g. ten minutes to 10 am) in different languages. To make that easily manageable without reloading translations on run-time I was wondering if

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar PATCH] Proxy feature. Wiki page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_Settings

2013-02-19 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi Ajay, there are some questions open from the last time this feature was submitted for review: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2012-August/038917.html There are two differences to the GNOME 3 design. There is a check box in the 'Manual' option that says 'Use

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Journal toolbar: add tooltip to favorite filter

2013-02-19 Thread Simon Schampijer
Pushed to master after review from Manuel. 158f4384d1f3423a6c2063723434f4f331796f81 Simon On 02/19/2013 10:16 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: From: Simon Schampijer si...@laptop.org This patch adds the tooltip 'Favorite entries' to the favorite filter button in the Journal toolbar. The button

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.98.5

2013-02-15 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.98.5.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.98.5 (Simon Schampijer) * ToggleToolbutton: do hide the tooltip when clicked or touched (Simon Schampijer) * Commit from Sugar Labs: Translation

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-0.98.1

2013-02-15 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit/sugar-toolkit-0.98.1.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.98.1 (Simon Schampijer) * ToggleToolbutton: do hide the tooltip when clicked or touched (Simon Schampijer

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a low-cost tablet for an NGO in India

2013-02-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 02/11/2013 04:18 PM, badday wrote: Hi there, first of all, this is my first post to this mailing list, so a warm welcome to everybody. I am currently working in an NGO in India and want to use Sugar as a tool of education. Therefore I bought a low-cost tablet, rooted it and installed Fedora

Re: [Sugar-devel] HTML activities

2013-02-01 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 02/01/2013 02:08 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: With technologies like HTML5 and EPUB3, the lines between a book and a activity start to blur. (EPUB2 prohibited the use of javascript, but is allowed in EPUB3) A nice example of a book with dynamic content is

Re: [Sugar-devel] HTML activities

2013-01-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hey Daniel, thanks for the writeup! On 01/26/2013 03:27 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, the desire to be able to write activities using html has been expressed several times by developers. We have seen several approaches but there is not much support for it in the core platform yet. I and

Re: [Sugar-devel] HTML activities

2013-01-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/28/2013 06:37 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Hey Daniel, thanks for the writeup! On 01/26/2013 03:27 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, the desire to be able to write activities using html has been expressed

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar-toolkit-gtk3 2/2] Add missing dependencies

2013-01-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/28/2013 07:16 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: From: Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com I'm not sure how it works with GNU ld, but it breaks with ld gold and it's clearly wrong anyway. --- configure.ac | 3 ++- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/configure.ac

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.98.4

2013-01-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.98.4.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.98.4 (Simon Schampijer) * palettemenuwidget: Ensure the widget is realized before popping it up, SL #4388 (Carlos Garnacho) * Adapt to icon changes

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-artwork-0.98.3

2013-01-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.98.3.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.98.3 (Simon Schampijer) * Add icon entry-cancel for usage inside entries - SL #3569 (Manuel Quiñones) ___ Sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] F18.. go sugar-build, go!

2013-01-18 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/18/2013 03:56 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: I installed Fedora 18 last night, and I have to say I like sugar-build more and more. With just this steps in a clean F18 you get Sugar running and ready to hack each part of it: Kudos Daniel Narvaez! sudo yum install git git clone

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar] Start the activity when the treeview row is activated

2013-01-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
Thanks Daniel! Tested to not introduce regressions for mouse usage. And tested with your 'make check' test, impressive work, I was able to detect an error with stopping my Terminal and could pinpoint back using the logs in logs/check.log. Go sugar-build go! Pushed as:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar] Drop sugar-emulator

2013-01-08 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi Daniel, the new module is this one [1] I presume. We currently have the emulator packaged for Fedora qit a Desktop file so there is an easy way to launch Sugar from within another Desktop. I guess this would then be a separate package based on sugar-runner. Regards, Simon [1]

Re: [Sugar-devel] Stepping down as Sugar maintainer

2013-01-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/06/2013 09:19 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: Hello everyone, I am stepping down as maintainer for Sugar and some related services. This is mostly due to lack of time, but even if I had more of that to spare for Sugar, the way I work is sufficiently different from that of the most active

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar-datastore] Port to gi and gtk3 toolkit

2013-01-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 11/13/2012 03:57 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: Thanks Daniel for those patches! Like discussed on irc, I pushed the first two. The datastore port I moved to the next cycle. We can branch early and land it. Cheers, Simon Branched off and pushed, thanks. Simon

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