Re: [Sugar-devel] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/ down again

2009-06-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Thanks for reporting it. We've been having a lot of trouble with Pootle lately. Possible solutions are being discussed on the systems@ list, if you're interested in the discussion. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sug

Re: [Sugar-devel] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/ down again

2009-06-24 Thread Bernie Innocenti
nsitive topics too, so we created it as a private, invite-only list. Later, we decided to keep these threads private and open up the list. I've reconfigured it to be publicly visible now, though the archives are still private. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introduction and question about introducing Sugar development

2009-06-28 Thread Bernie Innocenti
eak. It's currently unmaintained, but very simple and cool IMHO... Wouldn't it be awesome if someone grew it into a Speak & Spell activity? > Many thanks in advance Thanks to *you* for helping! -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] Sunjammer down for unplanned maintenance

2009-07-01 Thread Bernie Innocenti
server should be back up and running within a few minutes. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] Sunjammer down for unplanned maintenance

2009-07-01 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 19:49 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > The FSF admins are working on fixing the problem. The server should be > back up and running within a few minutes. Sunjammer has been bought back up a few hours ago. Anyone who would like to receive notifications regardi

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] Enabling https://translate.sugarlabs.org

2009-07-02 Thread Bernie Innocenti
[cc += sugar-de...@] On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 10:25 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 06:31:13AM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > > And even then, rather than paying the pizzo (*) to the SSL mafia, we > > coul create our own Sugar Labs CA and install our

Re: [Sugar-devel] CACert in Browse (was: Re: [Systems] Enabling https://translate.sugarlabs.org)

2009-07-02 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 12:44 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 11:51:03AM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > >> Sure, they're having (organisational) trouble again, but to be honest > >> I nevertheless trust them way more than any commercial CA.

[Sugar-devel] [Fwd: Re: gitorious problems]

2009-07-09 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Maybe useful info for other Gitorious users too... Forwarded Message From: Felipe López Toledo To: Bernie Innocenti Subject: Re: gitorious problems Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 03:37:35 -0500 Thanks Bernie, it works :) >I'm the admin, but this is a git question :-) I&#x

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracker enhancements

2009-07-09 Thread Bernie Innocenti
gest to get a new instance for Soas > >> > >> > >> Can someone help to get there? Is trac giving us that functionality? > >> Other trac software we should consider (besides bugzilla :)? > > > > redmine,redmine,redmine much easier to set up, maintain, ad

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracker enhancements

2009-07-09 Thread Bernie Innocenti
rent rights > > but u can also create custom roles, like in this image > > http://www.redmine.org/screenshots/role_permissions.png > Very interesting. We have a demo redmine instance here: http://prj.sugarlabs.org/ Would you like to help configure it to give us an idea

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracker enhancements

2009-07-09 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 17:53 +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: > sure, i can work on it. i can try to put a couple hours into it > tomorrow. You should have received login info by email. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarla

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracker enhancements

2009-07-09 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 18:01 +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 07:40 -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 16:56 +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: > > Would you like to help configure it to give us an idea of how it would > > work in practic

Re: [Sugar-devel] Commiter problem with git

2009-07-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
; name = Asaf Paris Mandoki > email = asa...@gmail.com You can also make this a setting global by putting it in ~/.gitconfig. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-

Re: [Sugar-devel] Commiter problem with git

2009-07-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
o look: fuser $SSH_AUTH_SOCK > -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] Trac wiki becomes read-only

2009-08-07 Thread Bernie Innocenti
n for registered users. If anyone really needs it, they can ask for permission to one of our Trac admins: bernie codeeranger bernie coderanger TRAC_ADMIN erikos TRAC_ADMIN krstic TRAC_ADMIN marcopg TRAC_ADMIN tomeu TRAC_ADMIN wadeb walter TRAC_ADMIN -- // Bernie Innocenti -

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] Trac wiki becomes read-only

2009-08-07 Thread Bernie Innocenti
going to have more time to dedicate to Sugar Labs this month, I would appreciate your help on maintaining and extending our Mediawiki. Bothering me on IRC is usually the most effective way to get my attention quickly. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ S

[Sugar-devel] bender: new uplink change of IP, Aug 8 18:30 CEST

2009-08-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
7;m also planning to start testing a simpler 6to4 scheme and drop the AYIYA tunnel soon-ish. We could also add IPv4 port forwarding for the VMs, but I expect that 6to4 won't be as unreliable as the sixxs.net service has been. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] bender: new uplink change of IP, Aug 8 18:30 CEST

2009-08-09 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Sat, 08-08-2009 a las 18:00 +0200, Bernie Innocenti escribió: > We could also add IPv4 port forwarding for the VMs, but I expect that > 6to4 won't be as unreliable as the sixxs.net service has been. I added an A record for bender.sugarlabs.org alongside the existing record.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracker enhancements

2009-08-11 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 11-08-2009 a las 10:59 +0200, Simon Schampijer escribió: > @Infra-people, is it possible to get an own instance for soas? Sure, but... does it really have to be Trac? :-) -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: #1157 HIGH: Show which jabber server to which you are connected

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
might as well rename it to sugar-utils and genericize it so it behaves nicely when not running on the XO. Are you the current maintainer of olpc-utils? I used to be, but now I don't feel like I have enough spare cycles to work on it. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar La

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
d of like SVG, too. And isn't it funny how one company monopolizes *all* these vector graphics standards that were supposed to compete with each other: PostScript, PDF, Flash and SVG. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ess of what the document or the PDF standard tells them to do. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
With or without Javascript ;-) -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
s jumping from analogue phones to ADSL without going through the ISDN nonsense that plagued Europe for many years. Will developing countries be lucky enough to skip MS Word and PDF too and go directly to HTML and Wiki? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar

[Sugar-devel] sunjammer: server relocation, Aug 12, 21:30 EDT

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
issues. Apologies for any inconvenience, -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] Outage notifications via identi.ca

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
emember to notify !sugarlabsstatus in advance before taking down a public-facing service. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlab

[Sugar-devel] List moderation, or lack thereof

2009-08-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
will actually be rejected instead. I have also cleared a huge queue of pending moderator requests, discarding everything. Sorry for the inconvenience, Your lovely BOFH -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlab

[Sugar-devel] develer.com: switch to new uplink, Aug 13 23:00 UTC

2009-08-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
.158.222 || bender.sugarlabs.org || Sugar Labs VMs || || 83.149.158.223 || BROADCAST || --reserved--|| -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] sunjammer: VM relocated back to old host

2009-08-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
mod_mem_cache in the hope it will save some computation, but if it's not effective we might have to reduce the number of Apache processes and start returning "500 server busy" errors. Meanwhile, we're also investigating the possibility to migrate ASLO to a different host altogethe

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] sunjammer: VM relocated back to old host

2009-08-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Sat, 15-08-2009 a las 13:59 +0200, Luke Faraone escribió: > On Aug 15, 2009, at 12:42, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > I enabled mod_mem_cache in the hope it will save some computation, but > > if it's not effective we might have to reduce the number of Apache > > pro

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] sunjammer: VM relocated back to old host

2009-08-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
can make a comparison Feel free to forward this message to the relevant list. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.su

[Sugar-devel] trac.sugarlabs.org: Trac being upgraded, Aug 23 10:00-13:00 EST

2009-08-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
like to propose using the URL http://trac.sugarlabs.org to refer to our trac instance. The "dev." cname was appropriate when trac was supposed to be the central part of our development infrastructure. Now it would make more sense to use it for Gitorious, if at all. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Labs Membership proposal

2009-08-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ightweight process you have proposed might still be a good enough process for the present election. Certainly better than last year's bootstrap. BTW, thanks to you and Sebastian for coordinating this. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.or

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Labs Membership proposal

2009-08-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
mes on i...@... Perhaps we could use this opportunity to get some press coverage too? Linux Weekly News usually covers board elections of large free-software projects such as Gnome and KDE. > Disclaimer: Sebastian and I are both running for SLOB slots in the > upcoming election. HA! You're my political adversaries then! ;-) -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] trac.sugarlabs.org: Trac being upgraded, Aug 23 10:00-13:00 EST

2009-08-24 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Mon, 24-08-2009 a las 04:00 -0400, Luke Faraone escribió: > On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:07, Bernie Innocenti > wrote: > I'd also like to propose using the URL > http://trac.sugarlabs.org to > refer to our trac instance. The "dev." cname

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] trac.sugarlabs.org: Trac being upgraded, Aug 23 10:00-13:00 EST

2009-08-24 Thread Bernie Innocenti
rg, so no links will ever be broken. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] buildslave2.sugarlabs.org unreachable

2009-08-27 Thread Bernie Innocenti
uld you please document the build slaves somewhere in the wiki? It would be great if we could switch to having separate wiki pages for each virtual or physical system (the OLPC VIG uses the naming convention Machine:Foo, Machine:Bar... we could use Machine/Foo, Machine/Bar instead. Having a common

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

2009-08-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
rom it: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/USB_format A few months ago, I got this useful piece of information which makes a lot of previously unbootable machines work: - Mensaje reenviado De: H. Peter Anvin Para: Bernie Innocenti Cc: sysli...@zytor.com, Jerem

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

2009-08-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
he MBR and create it from scratch. It does the right thing on the USB sticks I tried. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://li

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS v2 Beta Release - "The Next Big Thing"

2009-08-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
d the image anywhere. Are you sure you really uploaded it on sunjammer? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlab

Re: [Sugar-devel] Friends view UI affordances?

2009-08-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
procedure to follow for handling change requests affecting the HIG from the initial proposal to the point where they become patches to the code? Does the Design Team have some preferred way to do it? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://suga

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

2009-08-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ot too familiar with how USB flash works, so I don't know if > > USB-{FDD, ZIP, HDD} layouts are compatible with the layout you'd want to > > minimize wear. > > > > Wear leveling needs to be done in a separate layer if you're doing to > use a conventional files

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

2009-08-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
worked with it a year ago). On a side note, which filesystem should be chosen in order to minimize wearing to USB sticks? I would assume that the any DOS filesystem will continouously rewrite to the FAT blocks. Maybe the best choice would be ext4 with the journal disabled? -- // Bernie Inno

[Sugar-devel] Testing, please ignore

2009-09-08 Thread Bernie Innocenti
I moved the hos...@sugarlabs.org alias to Google Apps so it keeps working even if sunjammer goes down. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] sunjammer: downtime for relocation Sun, Sep 13 @ 22:30EST

2009-09-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
associated tools will become so mature that I won't have to grep the sources for error messages every time I want to do something as easy as net-installing a new VM. Until then, thank god it's free software. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://suga

[Sugar-devel] Trac maintenance

2009-09-14 Thread Bernie Innocenti
sperate, we could give up on some of our requirements and rush a migration within next month. (please, let's not discuss the LP migration in this thread. Actually, please let's not discuss it at all yet. We're still talking with Canonical and others to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] Trac maintenance

2009-09-18 Thread Bernie Innocenti
. Anyway, this isn't the same machine where trac runs. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Bernie Innocenti
If they succeed in the market, Sugar also succeeds. Even when they fail, at least we get to keep they work they contributed to that point. Yet another advantage of free software. Our only concern should be to ensure that Sugar (and probably also SoaS) doesn't become *exclusively* control

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Bernie Innocenti
pete with each other. The Sugar Labs Infrastructure Team can offer free disk space and bandwidth to host such a project. Are there any volunteers to do it? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-21 Thread Bernie Innocenti
siness out of it. This creates a sustainable market for Sugar. Linux distributors who have successfully built a reputation for offering good customer support, such as Red Hat, *do* make good profits and *do* reinvest a large part of them to contribute back to Linux development. Everyone wins.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Long-term support for Sugar (was: slobs... blah blah)

2009-09-21 Thread Bernie Innocenti
eir own customers happy. Sugar Labs does not need to spend a single buck on this, exactly the same way the Kernel Hackers don't need to care about linux-2.6.18 today... unless they're employed at Red Hat, of course! ;-) -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs

Re: [Sugar-devel] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-21 Thread Bernie Innocenti
;stable" distros were amazingly old. But if you resort to manual installations, don't you also loose all the advertised stability and the benefits of long-term support? Modern distros with 6 months release cycles are getting better at QA. Even Fedora is no

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-21 Thread Bernie Innocenti
that we currently have to maintain. Not to mention how much work it would take to improve it to the point of actual maturity. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing li

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-21 Thread Bernie Innocenti
u can count that it *will* happen soon or later. The press may even put all the blame on us! I don't think there's much we can do to prevent it. When it happens, we'll just sit and let our great Marketing Team leader Sean do all the talking to defend us ;-) -- // Be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-21 Thread Bernie Innocenti
e same malicious program by unpacking a zip file or an rpm (which is a cpio archive with a header). What could be achieved with the .xo bundles that couldn't be achieved with an rpm? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar L

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-21 Thread Bernie Innocenti
of rpms in ~/Activities, you'd get this feature too. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-21 Thread Bernie Innocenti
een as an optimization. If the package is not of the right kind, the other laptop would fall back to the online repositories Last, but certainly not least, * Activity sharing is not even implemented, yet! We'll think about these esoteric scenarios when they come..

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
us to use the existing package tools. Which we need in order to support a number of common features such as inter-package dependencies, multiple architectures, system upgrades, package signing... way too many to list them all. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sug

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
eak your system in really interesting ways ;-) 0install seems cleaner and simpler, although on my system it failed to install the Subversion package with some weird error after downloading a bunch of packages. I'd replace the current bundle format with this any day, but it's far from being a solution. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
to work with any package format. Those that do not work now, would at least fail gracefully. In a distant future, we could even come up with good fallbacks for these "what if" scenarios. But I wouldn't recommend complicating the design *for* them.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 23-09-2009 a las 12:25 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz escribió: > Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > The use cases that work now would continue to work with any package > > format. > > That's definitely not true. > > One option (the one I thought you were advocati

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 23-09-2009 a las 13:44 -0400, Bill Bogstad escribió: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > >... > > > > Right. One way around it is using Alien, which I already proposed. > > Another "solution" is to admit that kids running in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity bundle format (was Re: Long-term support for Sugar)

2009-09-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 23-09-2009 a las 14:03 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz escribió: > Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > A fixed platform with infinite backwards compatibility is a dream even > > for an interpreted language. > > Java. Java is just a marketing lie ;-) The official JVM did not eve

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
approve their dependencies. Currently, they can just go on and package up all they need independently. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.suga

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
a mac, I just make sure I test it all on an XO sugar install and/or > a Fedora Sugar vm before release so I'm not pushing garbage. Really? Interesting. Did you ever try to get your Sugar activities to run on MacOS? And what about the whole Sugar environment? It would

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
while. Gnome and KDE provided desktop-specific implementations of this idea for at least 5 years. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] more mirrors

2009-09-27 Thread Bernie Innocenti
uld now have to configure a virtual host for download.sugarlabs.org. We could fix this by re-introducing /sugar and adding temporary compatibility aliases to the main server, but it wouldn't work for the mirrors. What do you think? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.o

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] more mirrors

2009-09-27 Thread Bernie Innocenti
start testing. You should be able to log in as dfarn...@mirrorbrain.sugarlabs.org . You have sudo with no password. > Mirrorbrain might not be the correct answer for sugarlabs. But at it > would give us a starting point. Indeed. Please keep me updated. -- // Bernie Innocenti - htt

[Sugar-devel] sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-28 Thread Bernie Innocenti
subpackage of pygame. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
live distros? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 29-09-2009 a las 16:25 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz escribió: > Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > 1) are there lighter-weight alternatives for the most popular uses of > > numpy? > > No. It has no competition, and is used by virtually every program that > uses p

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Test ballot complete. Feedback

2009-09-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
e else have feedback on the test election? Please submit > that feedback to this list or to me personally. Yeah yeah, that's really great and stuff... but you forgot to tell us the *most important* thing that *everyone* is eager to know: WHAT'S THE BEST ACTIVITY? (-; -

[Sugar-devel] sunjammer: upgrade to Jaunty, Sat Oct 10th @ 20:00-24:00EST

2009-10-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
2009&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=43 -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
_popdown_anim = animator.Animator(0.6, 10) +self._popdown_anim = animator.Animator(0.0, 10) self._popdown_anim.add(_PopdownAnimation(self)) gobject.GObject.__init__(self, **kwargs) -- 1.5.6.5 -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Mon, 12-10-2009 a las 22:36 -0400, Bernie Innocenti escribió: > Hello, > > Michael just passed by the Acetarium and, since the dinner was late, we > found the time to test and review his latest prototype^W patch. > > I'm loving how the menus suddenly are now snappy

[Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
lock/fixedtime.html?month=10&day=17&year=2009&hour=11&min=0&sec=0&p1=43 -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Zero-install-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
d and is already a stand-alone package in Fedora and Ubuntu; I think it would be great if multiple projects adopted it as part of their security model. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Bernie Innocenti
erview them at the end of the day about their experience. Or -- if we were evil enough -- we could patch only half of the stations and see which group performs better ;-) -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarla

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] sunjammer: upgrade to Jaunty, Sat Oct 10th @ 20:00-24:00EST

2009-10-14 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ould force the installation of my older packages if that would help. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ard using XOs in a Boston after school > program. I'm not sure where they are in their process but they might > be able to provide a test bed on XOs. How can I get in touch with them? As you know, I'm going to Harvard 3 times a week for my Extension School classes. -- //

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] sunjammer: upgrade to Jaunty, Sat Oct 10th @ 20:00-24:00EST

2009-10-14 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ust upload the source package with dput and the PPA will automatically build binaries for all distros and archs! It works very much like Koji in Fedora. If you want to debug a build on a local machine, you could also use your sunjammer shell account. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO updates

2009-10-14 Thread Bernie Innocenti
hat would send patches to systems-logs@ . We need to be extra careful not to expose passwords in this way. Any volunteers to write and test this procedure? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Zero-install-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
t; I'm not sure it solves our hosting problem, though, if the hosting is > only for things relevant to Sugar. What kind of policy are you > thinking of? We can offer abundant disk space and bandwidth to serve other Zero Install packages, as long as they are Free Software as defined b

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
s on which we have been stalling for years. Let's give them a chance to prove their ideas. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO updates

2009-10-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
We need to be extra careful not to expose passwords > > in this way. Any volunteers to write and test this procedure? > > Well, we don't need such ASLO specific administration 24x7, most of time > it could be just regular file-permissions/apache/etc administration. Ok.

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
or.Animator(0.6, 10) +self._popdown_anim = animator.Animator(0.0, 10) self._popdown_anim.add(_PopdownAnimation(self)) gobject.GObject.__init__(self, **kwargs) -- 1.5.6.5 -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Zero Install folks involved may bring in fresh expertise > > They'll know about z-i, not about the needs of Sugar or its users... > hence the perspective I am mentioning. Agreed, we should also hear from all the others. Well, perhaps not from the Autopackage crowd, since

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Zero-install-devel] Summary of the chat on #sugar-meeting (2009-10-18)

2009-10-18 Thread Bernie Innocenti
FYI Mensaje original Asunto: [Zero-install-devel] Summary of the chat on #sugar-meeting (2009-10-18) Fecha: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:02:50 +0100 De: Thomas Leonard Responder-a:: The Zero Install system A: The Zero Install system Sugar (http://www.sugarlabs.org/) is a graphical env

[Sugar-devel] sunjammer: machine reboot, Nov 29 15:00 EST

2009-11-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
We need to perform a reboot of sunjammer.sugarlabs.org required to fix the nfs server. The service outage should protract for just a few minutes. Apologies for any inconvenience, -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] aslo -> CDN

2009-11-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
d to distribute all our source tarballs too. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-

Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC_Boston] Printer help needed!

2009-12-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ver 3 years ago. > If you have any advice or feedback, we would greatly appreciate your > suggestions. The 4th grade teachers are at a standstill until we can > figure this out! Hope it helped! -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ _

Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC_Boston] Printer help needed!

2009-12-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
result, several incompatible dialects exist. In the past, I experienced formatting errors even on trivial documents. Things may have improved over time... or got worse :-) -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http

[Sugar-devel] MediaWiki upgrade on wiki.sugarlabs.org

2014-11-04 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Hello, I'll start upgrading the main wiki soon. This will hopefully fix creating new user accounts from OpenID, which is currently the only way to log into the wiki due to persistent spammers. -- _ // Bernie Innocenti \X/ http://codewi

Re: [Sugar-devel] MediaWiki upgrade on wiki.sugarlabs.org

2014-11-04 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 04/11/14 19:44, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Hello, > > I'll start upgrading the main wiki soon. This will hopefully fix > creating new user accounts from OpenID, which is currently the only way > to log into the wiki due to persistent spammers. Done. Please check if you can

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] MediaWiki upgrade on wiki.sugarlabs.org

2014-11-04 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 04/11/14 20:37, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On 04/11/14 19:44, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'll start upgrading the main wiki soon. This will hopefully fix >> creating new user accounts from OpenID, which is currently the only way >> to log in

Re: [Sugar-devel] requesting the control of sugarlabs twitter account

2014-12-27 Thread Bernie Innocenti
facebook page with the twitter. I didn't even know Sugar Labs had a twitter account! -- Bernie Innocenti Sugar Labs Infrastructure Team http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Infrastructure_Team ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org htt

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] New ASLO Bundles on the Mirror

2015-01-06 Thread Bernie Innocenti
with a role account not the same account who owns the files). Use a forced command in authorized_keys for extra security. -- _ // Bernie Innocenti \X/ http://codewiz.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] New ASLO Bundles on the Mirror

2015-01-06 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 01/06/2015 07:30 PM, Sam P. wrote: > Slow propagation will cause some issues. So just SSHFS it? sshfs introduces too much latency and is unsuitable for serving. Instead, run an scp (or rsync over ssh) every time something changes, like for example as a post-upload hook. -- _ // Ber

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] New ASLO Bundles on the Mirror

2015-01-06 Thread Bernie Innocenti
ed on their infrastructure. Sorry for dropping so many new requirements on you, but... Replacing a production system is a lot harder than designing something anew :-) -- _ // Bernie Innocenti \X/ http://codewiz.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing lis

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] New ASLO Bundles on the Mirror

2015-01-07 Thread Bernie Innocenti
. > Sorry for dropping so many new requirements on you, but... Replacing a > production system is a lot harder than designing something anew :-) > > That's fine :) > > Thanks, > Sam -- _ // Bernie Innocenti \X/ http://codewiz.org __

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