Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-12-12 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, I've coded[1] initial implementation[2] for standalone 0install mode, w/o any support from shell. So, activity could bundle saccharin module to .xo and maybe 0install pure python library as well(otherwise

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-12-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: I've coded[1] initial implementation[2] for standalone 0install mode, w/o any support from shell. So, activity could bundle saccharin module to .xo and maybe 0install pure python library as well(otherwise system should

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:31:43PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: I've coded[1] initial implementation[2] for standalone 0install mode, w/o any support from shell. So, activity could bundle saccharin module to .xo and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 01:48:19PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, I've coded[1] initial implementation[2] for standalone 0install mode, w/o any support from shell. So, activity could bundle saccharin module

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Thu, 15-10-2009 a las 19:18 +0200, Martin Langhoff escribió: Ok - that's good. I am familiar with the limitations we are hitting with rpm and dpkg. What I truly wonder about is things like 'autopackage' and klik. See also the 'see also' section in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Install

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Zero Install appears to have identified reasonable compromises for many of these trade-offs. While I'm not yet claiming that z-i would be a (Keeping it in the Sugar side... ) I think it's a very good idea to look into

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-15 Thread DancesWithCars
yes, what is you exec overview/ why are you proposing to discard .xo bundling? or is this an option? With the XO 1.5 including a gnome desktop and just for development purposes, and environmental running environments having a broader base (read multi linux distro and even aspartamine) and multi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-15 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:05 AM, DancesWithCars danceswithc...@gmail.com wrote: yes, what is you exec overview/ why are you proposing to discard .xo bundling? or is this an option? I don't think that we're discussing discarding .xo bundling. I think we're discussing augmenting .xo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Thu, 15-10-2009 a las 10:32 +0200, Martin Langhoff escribió: I think it's a very good idea to look into a userdir-centric packaging system such as z-i. There are of course a few other alternatives, and very well considered critiques of these systems (from OS-centric packagers usually ;-) )

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Honestly? I think the most interesting feature of Zero Install is that it has an active development community working to solve the same hard problems that we are facing with our XO bundles. Ok - that's good. I am

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-15 Thread DancesWithCars
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Honestly? I think the most interesting feature of Zero Install is that it has an active development community working to solve the same

[Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Dear Zero Install developers, as you may know, Sugar is a learning environment consisting of educational activities packaged and distributed as bundles, which are some kind of glorified zip files. This design was chosen because we wanted to enable our learners to participate in the creation of