Re: EoT diagram

2011-06-23 Thread Frank King
Dear Kevin, I was interested in your comments on EoT. I agree that the kidney curve is not very pretty. You would be happier if we could go back to the year 1246 when the analemma had mirror symmetry about its long axis. This would tidy up the kidney a little! You say... ...the master of all

Re: EoT diagram

2011-06-23 Thread Chris Lusby Taylor
On Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:33 AM, Frank Kingfrank.k...@cl.cam.ac.uk, commenting on Kevin Karney's ke...@karney.com posting, said ...the master of all mechanical EoT generators must be the device in the Strassburg cathedral clock. You overlook the mechanism in the Jens Olsen World Clock

Re: EoT diagram

2011-06-23 Thread Frank King
Dear Chris, As always, you prompt further thought... Gears, although limited to an integral number of teeth, are essentially analogue devices, aren't they? Er, not sure :-) In earlier days, I spent many a happy hour looking at clocks and counting teeth. That felt like a digital experience

Re: EoT diagram

2011-06-22 Thread R Wall
Hi Bob, If you have a look at the Jules Audemars Equation of Time watch movement in my link you will see a kidney piece. Roderick Wall. From: Robert Terwilliger Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:43 AM To: 'R Wall' ; clc...@mx.nthu.edu.tw ; sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: RE: EoT diagram

Re: EoT diagram

2011-06-22 Thread Kevin Karney
Chi Lian It's good to see someone thinking about the EoT ! And to other contributors, many thanks for your additions concerning watches and clocks, which I was most interested to see If you visit www.PreciseDirections.co.uk Click on the Sundials link and then click the last item on the list

RE: EoT diagram

2011-06-22 Thread Robert Terwilliger
. If the timepiece was a perpetual calendar there must have been some additional mechanism for February. Bob _ From: David Bell [mailto:db...@thebells.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:51 PM To: Robert Terwilliger Cc: clc...@mx.nthu.edu.tw; sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: EoT diagram I

Re: EoT diagram

2011-06-22 Thread Peter Mayer
Hi Kevin, The cam demonstration is great! And so are the other links and animations. Thanks for alerting us to you webpage. best wishes, Peter On 22/06/2011 19:58, Kevin Karney wrote: Chi Lian It's good to see someone thinking about the EoT ! And to other contributors, many thanks

RE: EoT diagram

2011-06-22 Thread Jack Aubert
. Jack From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of R Wall Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:19 PM To: Robert Terwilliger; clc...@mx.nthu.edu.tw; sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: EoT diagram Hi Bob, If you have a look at the Jules Audemars

Re: EoT diagram

2011-06-22 Thread R Wall
for the information about the Real-Time-Clock. Roderick Wall. From: Jack Aubert Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:17 AM To: 'R Wall' ; 'Robert Terwilliger' ; clc...@mx.nthu.edu.tw ; sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: RE: EoT diagram By the late 17th century, as clocks became more accurate, clockmakers

EoT diagram

2011-06-21 Thread Chiu 邱 , Chi lian
Hi, I figured out a way to plot EoT curve which I didn't see in sundial books I own. Diagram is enclosed here. For a better resolution one, see http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31382133/EoT%20.png Best regards, ChiLian 24.8N 121E attachment: EoT_S

Re: EoT diagram

2011-06-21 Thread Mike Shaw
I’m pretty sure there was one of these in an early version of Jane Walker’s “Make a Sundial” British Sundial Society publication. There is also one on the rear of Jim Morrison’s astrolabe. Mike Shaw 53º 22'N 03º02'W www.wiz.to/sundials---

Re: EoT diagram

2011-06-21 Thread Tony Moss
On 21/06/2011 18:09, Mike Shaw wrote: I'm pretty sure there was one of these in an early version of Jane Walker's Make a Sundial British Sundial Society publication. There is also one on the rear of Jim Morrison's astrolabe. Mike Shaw 53º 22'N 03º02'W www.wiz.to/sundials

RE: EoT diagram

2011-06-21 Thread Robert Terwilliger
: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Chiu ?,Chi lian Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:11 PM To: sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: EoT diagram Hi, I figured out a way to plot EoT curve which I didn't see in sundial books I own. Diagram is enclosed here

Re: EoT diagram

2011-06-21 Thread R Wall
and can it be purchased. I’ve never seen a watch with EOT indication. Thanks, Roderick Wall. From: Robert Terwilliger Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:55 AM To: clc...@mx.nthu.edu.tw ; sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: RE: EoT diagram The equation graph projected on a circle is used as a kidney

Re: EoT diagram

2011-06-21 Thread R Wall
; clc...@mx.nthu.edu.tw ; sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: EoT diagram Hi ChiLian and Robert, Thanks ChiLan, your EOT curve is interesting. I suppose anything to do with sundials has a high chance of being invented before as sundials have been around for a long time. Robert, the kidney shape cam

Re: EoT diagram

2011-06-21 Thread R Wall
Hi again, This is a good link on EOT and watches http://www.timezone.com/extras/200711101492 Roderick Wall. From: R Wall Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:08 AM To: Robert Terwilliger ; clc...@mx.nthu.edu.tw ; sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: EoT diagram Hi all, After sending my last email

RE: EoT diagram

2011-06-21 Thread Robert Terwilliger
: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:55 PM To: clc...@mx.nthu.edu.tw; sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: RE: EoT diagram The equation graph projected on a circle is used as a kidney piece cam in a watch movement that can indicate the equation. Here is a picture of the gear carrying the kidney piece. It turns

RE: EoT diagram

2011-06-21 Thread Robert Terwilliger
Bob _ From: R Wall [mailto:maill...@virginbroadband.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:06 PM To: Robert Terwilliger; clc...@mx.nthu.edu.tw; sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: EoT diagram Hi again, This is a good link on EOT and watches http://www.timezone.com/extras

Re: EoT diagram

2011-06-21 Thread David Bell
-koeln.de Subject: Re: EoT diagram Hi again, This is a good link on EOT and watches http://www.timezone.com/extras/200711101492 Roderick Wall. From: R Wall Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:08 AM To: Robert Terwilliger ; clc...@mx.nthu.edu.tw ; sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re

Re: EoT diagram

2011-06-21 Thread David Bell
, June 21, 2011 12:11 PM To: sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: EoT diagram Hi, I figured out a way to plot EoT curve which I didn't see in sundial books I own. Diagram is enclosed here. For a better resolution one, see http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31382133/EoT%20.png Best regards