Re: [aaloa supporters] News -- submitted project proposal on ZigBee integration with the OSGi Platform

2010-12-22 Thread Stefano Lenzi
Dear Francesco and Kay,

my comments follow

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:30, Francesco Furfari
francesco.furf...@isti.cnr.it wrote:
 Dear Kai,

 this is a very good news.
 We will be happy to contribute to the requirements,
 as well as to work on the reference implementation when the specification
 will be ready.

 Concerning Z-Wave I tried time ago to get their specification but it wasn't
 open.
 Is there anybody in AALOA who have experience with such technology ?

Yes, as far as I know, the Z-Wave specification are available only for
Z-Wave Lincesee, and I'm wondering if it may cause any IP issue for
the definition of the open specification.


 Kind regards,
 Francesco





 Il 22/12/2010 11.07, Kai Hackbarth ha scritto:

 Dear Francesco, all,
 some of you may know that the OSGi Residential Expert Group started to work
 on new requirements for REG specification release 5. We are also planning to
 define standardized APIs for ZigBee and Z-Wave. The general idea that
 Francesco introduced is inline with what are planning to do at REG. We will
 start working on requirements documents next year and you kindly invited to
 participate in this activities. I keep you informed.

Yes, I have to join my happiness to Francesco's one, I'm really
looking fordward to contribute either to requirements and to interface
specification! Moreover, IMHO, I believe that it could be one of the
best channel for spreading the name of AALOA among the OSGi community.


 Regards,
 Kai


Ciao,
Stefano Kismet Lenzi

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Re: [aaloa supporters] News -- submitted project proposal on ZigBee integration with the OSGi Platform

2010-12-21 Thread Bruno Jean-Bart

Dear Francesco and all,
My vote will be provided in a separate email but I include here remarks 
on the Zigbee driver project.


As already mentionned by Antonio (Trialog) and Roberto (Uni. Zaragoza), 
we have developed in MonAMI two drivers for Zigbee Wireless Sensors 
network, one by Unv Zaragoza, one by Trialog. The two approaches use 
different Zigbee implementation (Ember for Uzaz) and (TI for TRIALOG). 
The objectives of these two approaches were twofold :


1. to proof that the OSGi4AMI interfaces (Application Interfaces 
representing sensors and actuators independantly from the type of the 
network) can be implemented easily by two different teams.


2. to validate that the OSGi4AMI interfaces are comprehensively defined 
to enable the interoperability of applications.


The objective 1 was demonstrated.
The objective 2 shows in some cases that the key issues is there : an 
application interface such as OSGI4AMI is a must for interoperability of 
applications but this is not sufficient: for interoperability, the 
behaviour of devices themselves are generally not totally identical and 
therefore the driver shall take into account these differences.


In your project, I see some proposals to take into the above issues : 
The use of the Zigbee Cluster Library will help for interoperability at 
the level of Application Interfaces. However for AALOA, one of the 
primary objectives is the definition of the Application interfaces of 
the drivers. This interface cannot be the Zigbee-based on the ZCL, but 
something more generic and I do not see that approach in your document.


Therefore I would recommend the AALOA board to vote for the Zigbee 
Project but a first task of this project would be to define the Device 
API. In that goal, I recommend to use as input the OSGi4AMI proposal 
(note that this name is misleading : the OSGI4AMI interfaces are not 
depending on OSGi, nor Java. This is mainly an ontology of devices, then 
mapped into Java interfaces).


Bruno

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Le 16/12/2010 15:07, Francesco Furfari a écrit :

 Dear Supporters,

today I submitted a first project proposal to the Governing Board of 
AALOA.
Even if the project was already announced, it was a needed action in 
order to define the process for submitting a project proposal.
The governig board will decide whether the project proposal is 
alligned to the AALOA mission and consequently will allocate the 
requested resources.


In particular this proposal is one of the outcomes of the PERSONA 
project (http://www.aal-persona.org/)  that finished with excellent 
evaluation few days ago.
As described in the Manifesto the leader proposing the project will be 
part of the AALOA Governing Board.


We don't have a formal proposal template so far.
I thought to the following sections:
1. Motivation for incubating the project
2. Description of the codebase or the input material for the project
3. Simple roadmap and invitation to contribute ( how the AALOA 
community could help)
4. People involved (e.g. the list of initial committers in case of 
software projects)
5. An optional expression of interest on the project incubation. ( 
list of people internal or external to AALOA )


I  invite all of you to read the proposal for the ZigBee 4 OSGi project,
help to advertise the project (when accepted) and help to contribute 
to the further development and testing.


Please,  if you have any doubt about  project proposal submission, 
don't hesitate to post your questions,

they will help to create a FAQ on the topic.

Kind regards,
Francesco




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Re: [aaloa supporters] News -- submitted project proposal on ZigBee integration with the OSGi Platform

2010-12-18 Thread Stefano Lenzi

Of course my vote is a
+1 (non-binding)
as developer of the ZB4OSGi project

Ciao,
Stefano Kismet Lenzi

On 16/12/2010 15.07, Francesco Furfari wrote:

Dear Supporters,

today I submitted a first project proposal to the Governing Board of AALOA.
Even if the project was already announced, it was a needed action in
order to define the process for submitting a project proposal.
The governig board will decide whether the project proposal is alligned
to the AALOA mission and consequently will allocate the requested
resources.

In particular this proposal is one of the outcomes of the PERSONA
project (http://www.aal-persona.org/) that finished with excellent
evaluation few days ago.
As described in the Manifesto the leader proposing the project will be
part of the AALOA Governing Board.

We don't have a formal proposal template so far.
I thought to the following sections:
1. Motivation for incubating the project
2. Description of the codebase or the input material for the project
3. Simple roadmap and invitation to contribute ( how the AALOA community
could help)
4. People involved (e.g. the list of initial committers in case of
software projects)
5. An optional expression of interest on the project incubation. ( list
of people internal or external to AALOA )

I invite all of you to read the proposal for the ZigBee 4 OSGi project,
help to advertise the project (when accepted) and help to contribute to
the further development and testing.

Please, if you have any doubt about project proposal submission, don't
hesitate to post your questions,
they will help to create a FAQ on the topic.

Kind regards,
Francesco





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