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2001-02-09 Thread terry calmes
Has anyone found a good use for the left over liquids after you have distilled your brew? If so I would love to know about it. I am already feeding the mash mixed in with my dairy cow barn ration.But what about the waste water? Thank a bunch, Terry

[biofuel] Where to buy Biodiesel chemicals

2001-02-09 Thread Olsen Eric (app1ebo)
I'm new to this group and would like to join in the fun of being self-sufficient. I have a 2.5kw water-cooled Diesel generator that I am setting up to run part of the house and to extract heat from both the exhaust/engine coolant for heating the house. Because of energy prices in NJ, I want to

[biofuel] Re: Where to buy Biodiesel chemicals

2001-02-09 Thread gawchicken
-Hooray for you. I too am about madcowed out. Maybe we should rename this the agricultural biosecurity site. -- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Olsen Eric (app1ebo) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm new to this group and would like to join in the fun of being self-sufficient. I have a 2.5kw water-cooled

[biofuel] Alliance Formed to Market Ethanol Fuel

2001-02-09 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.solaraccess.com/sanews/showstory.asp?id=194 Solar Energy and Renewable Energy News - SolarAccess.com Alliance Formed to Market Ethanol Fuel 1/29/01 10:49:10 AM TULSA, Oklahoma - An alliance has been formed in the United States to market all the ethanol produced by three companies.

[biofuel] Re: Where to buy Biodiesel chemicals

2001-02-09 Thread Keith Addison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Hooray for you. I too am about madcowed out. Maybe we should rename this the agricultural biosecurity site. -- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Olsen Eric (app1ebo) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip One more thing... Did I mistakenly subscribe to some Mad Cow eGroup? If not,

[biofuel] Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green car' report

2001-02-09 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/science/02/08/green.cars/index.html CNN.com - Sci-Tech - Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green car' report - February 8, 2001 Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green car' report The Honda Insight, a hybrid gasoline-electric vehicle, was rate among the greenest of

Re: [biofuel] Ford sees dawn of pollution-free hydrogen cars

2001-02-09 Thread biofuels
Hohoho How was the hydrogen produced? From petrofuels, that's how! Using 130% of the energy to produce, plus another 30% to compress, that makes it 160% more polluting. Spin! Terry Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here

Re: [biofuel] Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green car' report

2001-02-09 Thread biofuels
Heeheehee Where did the gas and petroleum come from? Non-sustainable and polluting. More spin! Terry Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/981676557/

[biofuel] Re: Ford sees dawn of pollution-free hydrogen cars

2001-02-09 Thread physkid
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hohoho How was the hydrogen produced? From petrofuels, that's how! Using 130% of the energy to produce, plus another 30% to compress, Yes, you're right, we've talked about this before, but... that makes it 160% more polluting.

[biofuel] Re: Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green car' report

2001-02-09 Thread Keith Addison
Heeheehee Where did the gas and petroleum come from? Non-sustainable and polluting. More spin! Terry Well, of course it's spin. Natural gas is cleaner at the tailpipe, but not anywhere else (except in the minds of Big Oil spin doctors). Hybrids are interesting though. A good hybrid running on

Re: [biofuel] eliminating waste

2001-02-09 Thread terry calmes
No intention to do that. I don't have the set up to dry the mash as much as it needs to be to get the dry matter down in the feed. Nor the capability to produce enough mash to feed another farm. So I let it sit as long as possible to dry out as much as possible(air dry), yet not sour on me.

Re: [biofuel] Where to buy Biodiesel chemicals

2001-02-09 Thread NBT - E. Beggs
Could you let us all know how your cogen works out? Interested in doing same. I've considered using a strawbale structure for genshack, for cheap insul and soundproofing. Thanks! Ed - Original Message - From: Olsen Eric (app1ebo) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [biofuel] eliminating waste

2001-02-09 Thread robert luis rabello
terry calmes wrote: Has anyone found a good use for the left over liquids after you have distilled your brew? If so I would love to know about it. I am already feeding the mash mixed in with my dairy cow barn ration.But what about the waste water? Thank a bunch, Terry

[biofuel] Re: Where to buy Biodiesel chemicals

2001-02-09 Thread Aleksander lt;kac
Hi Eric! Because of energy prices in NJ, I want to produce small batches of Biodiesel. I like the New Foolproof (Aleks Kac's) method that uses sulfuric acid, but have no idea where to get the chemicals with the needed purity, even though NJ is a big producer of industrial chemicals. Can

[biofuel] Catalytic convertors contribute to pollution - magazine

2001-02-09 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm?newsid=9772 Planet Ark Catalytic convertors contribute to pollution-magazine UK: February 9, 2001 LONDON - Instead of helping to clean up the environment, catalytic converters used on car exhausts are adding to pollution, a science magazine said on

Re: [biofuel] Re: Ford sees dawn of pollution-free hydrogen cars

2001-02-09 Thread biofuels
Sorry, chaps, but you don't get nothing for nothing! Hydrogen is a secondary fuel - an intermediary between an energy source and it's use. Even made by electrolysis, it takes energy to break the H from the O2 - then you can use the H to re-combine with O to make the squeaky clean H2O again -

[biofuel] Re: Where to buy Biodiesel chemicals II

2001-02-09 Thread Aleksander lt;kac
This one seems nice : http://www.sciencealliance.com/ Attention all Ethyl E fans, KOH's on special offer this week. Cheers, Aleks Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details

Re: [biofuel] Re: Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green car' report

2001-02-09 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Kieth and All, I agree with Terry on H2 for fuel for the same reasons. Above the ineff of producing the gas the problems of storing enough to go more than 100 miles in a vehicle have not been solved. Even if the storage problem is solved a vehicle that ineff will lose in the future

Re: [biofuel] Re: Ford sees dawn of pollution-free hydrogen cars

2001-02-09 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Andrew and All, --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hohoho How was the hydrogen produced? From petrofuels, that's how! Using 130% of the energy to produce, plus another 30% to compress, Yes, you're right, we've talked about

Re: [biofuel] Re: Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green car' report

2001-02-09 Thread biofuels
Thanks to Jerry for agreeing with the hydrogen energy balance - now let's see whether I can talk him the same way regarding electric vehicles. Where does the electricity come from? It is again a secondary energy source and dependant on the initial generation. If from the grid, then it is a