The Orgone Accumulator is more not even wrong pseudo-science.
http://inventors.miningco.com/science/inventors/library/weekly/aa031497.htm
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Magnets?
I use permanent magnets on fuel lines and air intake in my diesel,
but... aparently nothing happens.
It's only my opinion.
David
Imanes?
Uso imanes permanentes en las lneas de fuel y en la toma de admisin de
mi diesel, pero... aparentemente no mejora nada.
Es slo mi opinin.
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Your use of
apparently, there is no science to back up the claims of the promoters of
this technology.
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Hi Dick
snip
*last but not least, how can we incentivate snipping amongst honorable
list members ?
Er, incentivate? Please go straight to jail, do not pass Go, do not
collect $200. :-)
We incentivate it by means of a monthly reminder to fortify the
regular complaints, but it, um, doesn't
anyone know about how much $ you can get per 100 gal out of the glycerin
you get from of the biodiesel process ?
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I know, but testing with magnets is fast and cheap. Why not try?
Regards
David
Lo s, pero probar con imanes es barato y rpido. ÀPorqu no probar?
Saludos
David
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apparently, there is no science to back up the claims of the promoters of
this technology.
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Subject: [biofuel] Tallow
,
My name is Frank Wishart from Queensland Australia and i am
interested in making BioDiesel from low grade tallow one
By-pass Filters vs Factory Full Flow Filters
I think that Fram has a Super whammy guard filter out that has some sort of
by-pass filtering?
its like 10 bux
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I just finished reading my current issue of Sport Aviation and there was an
interesting article on finding alternatives to 100 octane low lead aviation fuel
(which will shortly see its demise). The letter was written by Dennis Helder
PhD, EE Dept , South Dakota State University , Brookings SD
Added to the water supply to dairy cattle, that and O2 added to the
water increases milk production 5-10%.
Nikken has PI water, and some neat seat covers! and a huge
marketplace already in place! My mother is a distributor for Nikken
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if you want strong magnets, you can get very very strong neodynium magnets
out of broken pc hard drives, they are small and great fun to play with.
Ian
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Hi Paul,
David,
Thanks for the info, and for being so frank. You don't seem to have much
faith in my old Toyota.
** I dont think I would say that. In my opinion Toyota are probably the best
of the large Japanese manufacturers. Their diesels particularly are some of
the best of the small
Greetings:
Is it possible to make engine oil, (for the crankcase) in the same
manner as making bio-diesel? I've read several e-mail postings about special
filters for regular, petroleum based oils, what about veggie oils?
It seems to me I read somewhere that years ago, (like,
hmm... wasn't it Congress, and not GW, that turned down Kyoto?
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David,
** If you have replaced the rings it dosnt suprise me that the vehicle
smokes. What were the rings you used in replacement? Where they genuine
Toyota rings?
Yes. Engine was reconditioned by local Toyota Agent at 200,000km.
It was so far gone that I was using 40 grade oil in an effort
Hi David,
Each filter is designed to filter a certain volume of oil and
sizes are determined by engine capacity and horsepower. Single filters use 1
filter roll, doubles use 2, and trebles use 3. The filter roll is contained
and restrained in a can, which slides onto a shaft pipe,
veggie oil is used by some racing cars and motorcycles
i dont know the trade name tho.
Ian
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:34 PM
Subject: [biofuel] What about making engine oil?
I would love to hear any input
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dick Carlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*good post warren !! this magnet thing either works, or else is
just more
urban legend. both ways, it shouldn't be hard to check out, like
checking
out novak's baby was easy.
I'd guess urban legend, because I can't see
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hmm... wasn't it Congress, and not GW, that turned down Kyoto?
technically yes, congress has yet to ratify Kyoto. But Dubyah has
publicly come out against it which means that it is pretty much now
dead, rather than merely
Fischmann,
Yes you could make your own oils, particularly vegetable
based oils BUT and I emphasize BUT you need a lot of knowledge and
expertise. (In short you really need to be a chemist and specialise in
oils). A lot of the modern synthetics are vegetable based oils with fully
I wonder how long a diesel rabbit engine would last, with veggie oil in the
crankcase. I just might try. they are pretty cheap at our junkyard. I'll add
one of your filters, Dave.
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anyone know about how much $ you can get per 100 gal out of the glycerin
you get from of the biodiesel process ?
...
Bank on 75 ml crude glycerin per liter of feedstock, post alcohol recovery
Price received for glycerin will depend upon what caustic is used, whether
it has been
veggie oil is used by some racing cars and motorcycles
i dont know the trade name tho.
Ian
Used to use Castrol R or Mobil P in the diffs of Peugeot 203,403,404.
These have a brass worm wheel and a steel worm. Required diet was vegetable
oil.
Paul
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You're preachin' to the choir Steve. I just had an extended
e-mail debate with a buddy of mine last week about how Clinton was
just window dressing. He seams to think Clinton was better than Bush,
I say that although he put up a front, he didn't DO anything, which
made him tacitly just the
ROFLMAO
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I wonder how long a diesel rabbit engine would last, with veggie oil in
the
crankcase. I just might try. they are pretty cheap at our junkyard. I'll
add
one of your filters, Dave.
..
Steve,
Make sure the oil has at minimum had the lecithin extracted. That will at
least double the
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Steve said:
James DeMeo is a quack. have you seen http://www.orgonelab.org/xbjdemeo.htm?
Pretty Sharp Fellow? at lightening peoples wallets most likely.
Steve, you seem to be beyond the bounds of your paradigm. I have no
wish to offend you or make you uncomfortable. My apologies for
bringing
Sparked a memory of a news story I saw a couple of
years ago. Seems this guy in Colorado stumbled on the
formula that wouldn't rot or seperate under the heat
of the engine. I think I found his site at
http://www.agromgt.com/
Kieth/Steve thanks for fying that person off the list.
Flagged down a
Not a very scientific experiment if you ask me Steve although it might give
you some idea on how long oil made by a rank amateur would last. As I have
stated before several times oil is made from 2 things, namely the oil base
stock and the additive package. Both of these are important and it is
I don't know for sure if it will or not. I just said
I may try it to see what would happen. ;-)
Jeremy
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Jeremy,
I can see the magnets might work on
water for the reasons you
asscribe but why should they work with gasoline.and
why should
Jeremy,
I personally dont think it will work. I am aware that magnets
fitted to a non ferrous water line will work to some degree in preventing
calcine and other build up in the line though to what degree I dont know.
Even this could be hogwash and there could be other reasons for it.
Don't take my word for it. His exploits are well known. his specialty is
genital mutations, not energy.
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_073.html
http://www.nocirc.org/symposia/fourth/demeo.html
http://skepdic.com/orgone.html
this is also related to the free energy joe cell and other
an engine blow is such a fun exposition. I'll take pics for you all :-)
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I use fuel line magnets myself, the rare earth variety out of the PC
hard drives, and I get a steady mileage increase of 4-5 mpg. I firmly
believe in them myself. Not everyone who has tried them gets good
results right off the bat. The trick is to move them around until you
find a sweet spot
To what scientific principles do you attribute your gains?
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Martin Brook wrote:
A company called Irvine do them in theUK. Irvine Engines Ltd, Unit 2,
Brunswick Ind. Pk, New Southgate, London, N11 1JL. I've lost their number
but directory enquiries have it.
As a long-time model flying enthusiast, I have, of course been experimenting
with biofuels in
Sam,
I sometimes think this is why some of these things work. Because
people want them to work they work. The easiest way to obtain high mpg is to
keep your foot off the gas pedal. This works everytime in my experience. For
trials to be comparable all the variables have to remain constant
Gerry wrote:
Mature coconuts would be required as they have thicker kernel with have
more oil after they have been sun dried.
The plants I'm looking at are not based on copra (sundried coconut
meat), but on fresh nuts.
Are you quite sure that mature nuts have more oil? The meat is harder in
Mix in a can of oil treatment on every filter roll change with the
Mil-Mac.
The additives will take cares of wear on the engine.
Gerry
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High oleic base stock is a start...then hire the tribology specialist.
Ed B.
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Fischmann,
Yes you
Renewable Lubricants Inc. makes some.
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] What about making engine oil?
veggie oil is used by some racing cars and motorcycles
i dont know the trade
Biodiesel works for us in both kerosene heater and oil lamp. But that is not
the same as dumping veg. oil into kerosene.
Ed B.
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Hi ,
There was a lot of hype on those telfon additives or some that can start a
engine block when it is encased in ice.!
But those tend to settle down in the sump, more suitable for racing engine
where it is stripped and rebuilt after the races.
Luckily some blokes understand there need to be
David, Steve, Jerry and all,
I need not, nor have any desire to convince anyone on earth other
than myself as to the validity of said circumstances or scientific
properties thereof. I simply do not have the time to dwell on it for
any persons sake other than my own. Others here may have
Yes Ed agreed, doing it this way you will certainly get a far better oil
than if you read a few books yourself and then tried to make it, but on top
of this you will then need to pay for analysis, set up a lab, buy expensive
equipment, etc. etc. to the extent that it becomes a prohibitive
Greetings!
Can anybody give me the correct mixture to produce coco diesel from coconut
crude oil (unrefined) or can you just mix kerosene with crude coconut oil at
1:20 ratio, like in Thailand for diesel trucks, generators and tractors for
tropical use? Do we need to add methanol to increase
Gerry,
You would probably do far better to contact one of the oil additive
manufacturers, tell them what you wanted to do, supply them with a samples/s
of your base vegetable oil, and ask them for the information and the
appropriate additive package to make a specific engine oil.
David, Steve, Jerry and all,
I need not, nor have any desire to convince anyone on earth other
than myself as to the validity of said circumstances or scientific
properties thereof. I simply do not have the time to dwell on it for
any persons sake other than my own. Others here may have
To give people an idea of what is required to make a reasonable engine
oil please find attached the below ready reference
B,r,. David
Ready Reference for Lubricants and Fuels
Lubricant Additives
Very little unadditized mineral oil is sold as a lubricant. Almost
'bout a month, give or take a coupla days...
I'm not sure about the diesel part, but just ask Jeremiah Senner
about canola oil in the crankcase of a gaster. He is in some of the
mileage groups I frequent. He did it and it worked great for a while
in his Geo Metro gas sipper. He was getting
Working on getting the Berkeley Unified School District here in
California to switch to B100, will update with progress,
-Andrew
Best of good luck, and strength to your arm. Please update as poss.
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I think that the BSE prion does not survive the rendering process.
Yes it does. Prions are more resistant to steam sterilization than
conventional transmissible agents. Extremely resistant to dry heat: a
treatment of 360 deg C for one hour has been reported
Yes, Ian. I'm testing (for one year ago) with very very stong neodymium
magnets from used DC electric motor. A pair of them are in line fuel,
and the other in intake.
... but, as I said before, nothing apparent occurs.
Regards
David
Si, Estoy probando (desde hace un ao) con imanes muy muy
Hi Gerry
Most of the coconut oil comes from mature coconuts.
Coming from the equatorial belt, we have alot of 'fun ' with this nuts. We
squeeze freshly grated mature coconut kernel to make coconut milk which is
used in making thick curry gravy. You can't make the milk out of young
green coconut
Hi Mike
Keith,
Nice to hear that you're from around the corner. I live in Hout Bay and know
your travel route well. Just about one of the most breath-taking ways of
driving to work.
It's spectacular! Especially on a big bike. Almost a good enough
reason to have a job (but not quite!). Via
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Engine oil already done. See http://www.agromgt.com/prod01.htm
Problem is it needs loadsa additives. Theirs is based on rape (canola) last
I heard coz its got a high (60%) oleic acid content, good in boundary
lubrication, thermal stability, etc. but its a start and I think their
philosophy
Hi Gerry and All,
For many years living aboard my sailboats I just
used a kerosene lamp for heat.
What are the in's and out's of burning used veg
oil in wick type burners to keep soot , other nasties
low.
Has anyone burned SVO in a Kerosun type wick
burner, heater, any
Vegoil is used by normal cars . I have seen a news in the newspaper about
it.
They uses 50 % vegoil and 50 % diesel in the diesel petro-motors.
The vegoil ( sunflower pure vegetable oil ) it«s cheaper than petrodiesel
and it«s used directly in the motor ( with 50 % petro-diesel ; I imagine one
But in any way, can one get oil from alcohol or from vineyard ???.
This is interesting, because in Spain there is a lot of vineyard production
( grapes ) that could be used to produce some class of oil .
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Can you send me the information ???. I can publish it in the vegetable oil
page ;)
On the other hand, it«s interesting investigate ( by private research
companies, universities and public organizatios ) the possibility of a
process to convert alcohol or similar grape products into oil.
All the
I have also seen Diesel engines on cars in some countries with this
arrangement. If the engine has a mechanical fuel pump they will run all day
without any electrical input. Some injection pumps have an electrical
solenoid that controls fuel supply and therefore is the usual way to stop
the
What about get oil from vinegar ?? :? ( CH3-COOH ) or similar vinegar bypass
product ???.
All the best.
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There is a very
I think the problem with both, ethanol and acetic acid, vinegar, is that the
carbon chain isn't long enough. There are reactions to combine carbon chains
and lengthen them, but I don't know if they would be cheap enough to compete
with what nature does for you in the form of naturally occurring
All that I recall is that I purchased the oil in a health food store in
Spain. It was delicious. I believe it was produced in Catalonia, but I don't
recall the manufacturer. It was a long time ago. You might try a local
health food store. Ask for Aceite hecho de granos de uva.
Derek W. Hargis
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I have also seen Diesel engines on cars in some countries with this
arrangement. If the engine has a mechanical fuel pump they
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