Sir, have you worked any more on you thoughts of a continuous still? If so I
would love to know where you are at on the idea and if it would work on a
small scale. Thank you ... terry calmes
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the only thing going on is the begining of a scam. these numbers
look like
an outright fabrication.
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In some of the test that claim they got better milage and such, some
investigations found out that the people tuned the engine up after
the put the magnets on then ran the 2nd part of the test..
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extraordinary claims, require extraordinary evidence. notice how they get
all upset when you ask them to prove it. especially when it's not evidence
that they themselves have seen, but are parroting from someone else.
so and so told me, or I saw a video doesn't cut it. show me peer
reviewed
No - other way round
Caustic soda - lye - is 99.5% dehydrated and cheap
KOH is usually 85% and not so cheap
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Can't do much more than put it on my site
Try www.biofuels.fsnet.co.uk/din51606.htm
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Your use of Yahoo!
I want to brew some biodiesel, im not a chemist, but i
have read mike pelleys recipe several times, and i
understand most of it. Im going to have to start by
buying the pieces like the big pot to heat it in, i
can make a jig for the stirring pretty easily, but
after that i get kind of confused.
Sorry - link not working
Must learn how to drive this thing!
Try www.biodiesel.de and look for the biodiesel2000 section - I think I
found it there
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Hi Harry
Thanks for those references Keith, they will be very useful.
You're most welcome, I'm glad you can use them.
produce enough food to go around. Until I observe a change in the way
wealth, and food, are distributed I must insist that we do all we can to
increase the total production of
$2 a pound for KOH? How much does KCl cost?
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Reclaiming the methanol
Paul my next batch will be with cotton seed oil. I intend
Hi James,
I was asking this morning if there is any English counterpart of this German
standard.
I got the answer from biofuel that there exist ASTM PS121-99 provisional USX
standard
but
you can look at www.astm.org andfind out that you can buy it for 30 bucks
(30 US $).
I suppose
Hi All,
For those who are reclaiming methanol what %
of the methanol do you get back? I assume vacuum
recovery method.
Thanks,
jerry dycus
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Hmmm So am I. Along with being a paramedic. Sounds
scary all of a sudden. ;-)
[snip]
Before you laugh too hard at the idea you'll find someone's already
doing it.
http://www.agromgt.com/
http://www.greatplainsoil.com/amg2000.htm
Hi Steve and All,
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extraordinary claims, require extraordinary
evidence. notice how they get
all upset when you ask them to prove it. especially
when it's not evidence
that they themselves have seen, but are parroting
from someone else.
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Jeremy Shuey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmmm So am I. Along with being a paramedic. Sounds
scary all of a sudden. ;-)
[snip]
Before you laugh too hard at the idea you'll find someone's already
doing it.
Yep. Now we have biofuel, bio-oil, maybe
I wonder if anyone knows of a web address where I can view the German
biodiesel standard DIN 51606. (German language is fine)
James
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There is no British standard as yet - CEN standard is due next year and
should be in force by the end of 2003.
UK will probably adopt DIN51606 as interim measure
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OK, it works now - had to strip it out a bit
German, Austrian and US specs no on
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You want the webpage as well? I see 4 high school students here got
suspended for making a bomb that demolished an outdoor toilet block from a
recipe and how to page they found on the web. The Timothy McVeighs of this
world dont die so easy eh?
B.r., David
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Marc,
Contacted the curator and heard back the next day. Then asked for
info and trial seed mentioning that it was for the Phillipines but have not
heard back yet. Perhaps info is in transit. Have just sent them another
e-mail this morning to find out where things are at.
B.r., David
Sam,
How could you have got it so wrong. He is not I am. When you give me
reasonable proof I will support you and install one myself. Until then I
remain sceptical and aloof.
B.r., David
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Hi David C and others who are interested,
Just received the
following reply re Paragon mini turbine.
B.r., David
Mr Reid:
As EPI is currently testing our first unit at a land fill site in New
Jersey, firm technical data and costs
Hi David R.,
Thanks for the info. Off the topic of
miniturbines---What is the best way to figure the
cost per gallon of the biodiesel you make, is there a
general formula or do you have to figure down to
the smallest expense you incur , and tally everything up,
and then do an
The standards can be found at
http://www.biodiesel-intl.com/standards_e/haupt.htm
http://www.wisa-lab.de/Rapsoel.htm gives the relevent test numbers,
unfortuantley, I've not found where to get details of the tests other than
buying them.
Simon
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In retirement I edit PHD thesis for pocket money, I've probably learnt more
this way than any other. One thing I have learnt:
Whatever method they use, any of us should be able to duplicate the results
by following the procedure as reported, all else is BS. Harry
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I did the indoor toilet with an m80, but that was 20 years ago. surly the
statute of limitations has run out? ;-)
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It's really funny that they claim a 10-24% increase in milage and HP
yet the emitions are cut by 70-80%. To me, it just doesn't seem to be
right.
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they get
all
I tried it in my Nissan Pathfinder V6 EFI 1995 model, and got a smoother
running engine. It felt like you are adding octane booster to the fuel tank.
Here is how I did it.
I placed an extremely powerful magnet (one that can cause small injuries if you
are not careful), 1x2x1/4in., on
I was told by my local trading standards office that they would be happy if
bio diesel came up to BS EN590 standard. Does anyone know what this is .
bob golding
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I'm getting it too.
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i fully realize that this is basically a discussion forum, not a posting
board for eccentric experiments. still, i find that one way of defending a
position in a discussion is by describing the results obtained in actual
trials.
i find that there are theorists who will either support or reject a
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I know this happened to another list member a couple of weeks ago,
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Trading standards only comes into it, in UK, when you make a claim to
something or when complying with law.
Does not apply at present, provided you do not make false claims.
Bob, if in the UK, please contact direct
Terry
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Eric:
You need in terms of vessels:
1. a large reaction vessel with some sort of stirring. A bottom
spigot is usefull but not necessary. You can top off your ester.
2. a smaller vessel (25% min of larger) for methoxide preparation
Hi Dick and all
I pretty much agree with you, Dick, with the exception that while
John Li's posting was interesting, I don't think it was very useful.
I don't want to be discouraging, but subjective impressions such as
smoother and quieter don't really add much, and don't impress the
Attn Steve,
I am very particular of the true octane rating of the gasoline. My vehicle
which I tested with the magnet is a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder equipped with an
anti- knock compensator in which a sensor that detects 'pings' or 'knocks'
would automatically retard the engine timing in order
I've been expecting something like this. I've had doubts that this
SVO mixture that's being misnamed biodiesel would escape the need
for a dual-fuel system. This could do a lot of harm. Not cleaning the
filters either. Mess. :-(
Keith Addison
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Hello John,
Read your message and noted that you are interested in coconut oil for bio
diesel. So am I. For security reason the list monitor cannot allow
attachments, if you are interested I will attach a paper by Dr. Dan
Etherington presented at the 19th Pacific Science Congress in 1999, if you
High quality coconut oil has been tested at the University of Wollongong
(Australia) in recent years which apparently reached the conclusion that
diesel engines used in generators, marine engines and vehicles can run on
such coconut oil. At these tests, the oil has demonstrated excellent
In a previous posting I insist that an empirical trial that can be
replicated by others using the original method described is necessary for
the credibility of technical claims. This is what most of us are doing with
bio diesel production, having replicated the results of others we extend the
As a qualified Automotive engineer, I agree, with an Air fuel Ratio of
21.5:1 it would be not be running too well at all, unless the engine in
question had air injection and that would make it appear to be running as
lean as that.
The normal AFR is 14.7:1
John McLean AMIAME
Australia
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Hi Hanns,
I would be very interested in that paper on coconut oil. If we go commercial
here (a long way off) I would like to have some of our past students from
the Pacific export coco esters to us to produce a winter grade of biodiesel.
The income stream would be good for all concerned.
From
P.S. My comment on reorganisation of molecules could be taken a little
seriously if there is a possibility of induced or real polarity of the
molecules concerned, instead of placing the other magnet opposite the first
try it in line to effectively lengthen the lines of force parallel to the
fuel
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Smith unveils legislation to eliminate MTBE threat
WASHINGTON, DC, May 28, 2001 (ENS) - Senator Bob Smith has introduced
legislation to ban MTBE and authorize cleanup funds for groundwater
contaminated by the gasoline additive.
Smith,
Please, that's ENOUGH about magnets unless you have replicable
results or useful information on how to achieve them.
Keith Addison
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Thanks Terry. I've stopped it now.
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