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Automakers see potential in diesel
March 5, 2002
BY ALEJANDRO BODIPO-MEMBA
DETROIT FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER
The diesel engine may have gone out of favor with the U.S. public in
the early 1980s, but automakers, faced with increasing
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Subject: [Biodiesel] Conical Grease Filters Available
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I have just purchased a case of 10 diameter conical paper
What does anybody know about the state of this technology?
Apparently it's come a long way since the old destructive
distillation of wood days. Now they make a mixture of CO and
H2, and use catalysts to turn that into methanol. If I could get
some of that to play with, I might even give up on
DOE has just upgraded their website. Many documents that were previously
bookmarked may prove to be unavailable.
General biofuels portal:
http://www.ott.doe.gov/biofuels/publications.html#biodiesel
1992 - 1997 summary of biodiesel studies can be found at
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From: t_watchornnz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The SG results form my tests with pre-treated oil are as follows.
Note all are unwashed except for the normal brew sample:
Test 1, 20 mil (8%) methanol. SG 0.9111
Test 2, 25 mil (10%) methanol. SG 0.9051
Test 3, 32 mil (13%)
Hi Trevor
snip
The above waffle reminds me of another question I have had bottled
up. In all the stuff I have read re-titration of oil it says to add 3
to 3.5 grams to the resulting mils and use this as your grams per
litre. With test batches I find I only need to add 1.4 grams to
titration
Have you read Beyond Growth, Herman Daly?
Ed
No I haven't. I know about it, but never got to read it. A must, by
all accounts. Unrestrained growth, yes, wonderful - we seem to
forget that the only form of life characterised by unrestrained
growth is cancer, and even that gets restrained when
Hi Paul
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From: t_watchornnz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The SG results form my tests with pre-treated oil are as follows.
Note all are unwashed except for the normal brew sample:
Test 1, 20 mil (8%) methanol. SG 0.9111
Test 2, 25 mil (10%) methanol. SG 0.9051
Test
Keith,
I could use an extra brain here for a moment.
But Todd, I haven't got an extra brain!
We all know that crisis is a great motivator and that it has proven
so in the US numerous times.
However, aside from a gold rush here and there, a land grab or
westward expansion, can you think of
I'm up for it
How many people are on this list?
Is there any way to get a list of emails?
I'm just trying to figure out how you would automatically switch people over.
Or if you would just ask them to subscribe to the new list. I still have to set
up listserv software, but that is trivial.
Let me
Dear All,
Am I right in assuming that the continuous processes for transesterification
and fermentation must be run 24 hours per day, or can they be suspended
overnight and run from, say, 9am to 5pm.
Thanks,
Nicola
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We, at a R D center did produce methanol from biomasse via
biogas and synthesis gas (H2 and CO, ...). It did work quite
well tough the efficiency isn't that high. I know an other
project in Germany where they produce methanol from syngas
from a gasification plant. So, this is feasible.
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Keith is right about the fact you should not waste your time with the
Warren still. I bought the plans and built the unit and it does not
perform as it is claimed. It is also very expensive to build in
comparison with other units available off the web. I do however
disagree with the unsafe
RE: thermal cracking. I have been looking at the process of producing
biodiesel from a medium sized produder point of view. If someone could
spend
$4,000,000 to make 1500 gal of biodiesel an hour with little additional
inputs besides heat, it could be something. Biomass heat or
http://www.auto.com/industry/diesel5_20020305.htm
Automakers see potential in diesel
March 5, 2002
BY ALEJANDRO BODIPO-MEMBA
DETROIT FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER
The diesel engine may have gone out of favor with the U.S. public in
the early 1980s, but automakers, faced with increasing
We, at a R D center did produce methanol from biomasse via
biogas and synthesis gas (H2 and CO, ...). It did work quite
well tough the efficiency isn't that high. I know an other
project in Germany where they produce methanol from syngas
from a gasification plant. So, this is feasible.
Producing
RE: thermal cracking. I have been looking at the process of producing
biodiesel from a medium sized produder point of view. If someone could
spend
$4,000,000 to make 1500 gal of biodiesel an hour with little additional
inputs besides heat, it could be something. Biomass heat or
If anyone has not driven the latest generation of diesels, do so. Maybe take
one over to the NRDC offices and take them for a spin on one filled up with
B100. I doubt they've ever even been near one, and are running on memories
of the 80 Rabbit they had in college, or Dad's Oldsmobile Rocket-Not
Hi again Trevor
I just did some digging on the 3.5 gm/litre standard NaOH for virgin
oil, and got told it's an empirical figure, established by trial and
error, but it's quite reliable. The opinion was that you could get
away with 3.1-3.3 g for fresh oil (or well-deacidified WVO).
Um, what I
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CHICAGO - After more than 10 years of development, an alternative
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From: Keith Addison
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 09:34
Subject: [biofuel] Automakers see potential in diesel
In Europe, diesel engines power about 30 percent of vehicles and the
panelists agreed that there should be serious consideration given to
bringing
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Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 17:37:54 -
Subject: [Biodiesel] Conical Grease Filters Available
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I have just purchased a case of 10 diameter conical paper
What is the shelve - shelf life of:
o biodiesel - BD
o straight vegetable oil - SVO
o waste vegetable oil - WVO
o diesel fuel
at room temperature??
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel,Glycerine pretreat
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From: t_watchornnz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The SG results form my tests with pre-treated oil are as follows.
Note all are unwashed except
A lot more glycerine soap would be sold if it were closer in price to
alternatives.
Many people like it but the cost stops them.
What does it take to make bars of glycerine soap?
Kirk
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From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:47 AM
Glycerine soap requires an enormously liberal application of heat (to be
read fuel) in comparison to standard soap manufactuer.
Alcohol is also a key production ingredient, which is eventually evaporated
and seldom recovered by anyone but commercial scale manufacturers.
All this to get clear
Hello gaw
The only part I am interested in is the automatic control.
What kind of control was it?
Where was it installed?
Where was the sensor probe placed?
I am working on building a fuel grade still and would be distilling
larger volumes of wort. Wouldn't want to have to baby sit my still.
Hello Keith
Could you or Daniel give some detail on the process of producing
methanol from biogas.
Thanks
George
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We, at a R D center did produce methanol from biomasse via
biogas and synthesis gas (H2 and CO, ...). It did work quite
well tough the efficiency
Some time ago I came across these plans and took an
interest just to see what other people were trying to
do. I was not impressed with the design or its
safety. True, it was not an expensive project.
The Revenoor Co. has been building all copper stills
for over 26 years. Many custom designs
Nicola
The continuous systems that we build run 24 hours a
day. If you have a time problem just start the
batches at a later time so that they finish during the
time of the day that you want.
Hope that helps
Regards,
Terry D. Wilhelm
The Revenoor Co.
www.revenoor.com
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Various people (not on this list) have been urging me lately to
get a dose of reality, specifically regarding my stance that using
methanol to make biodiesel is aiding the Big Oil devils. So I did
a back-of-envelope calculation based on January's gas bill
(PGE) for my 3-bdrm home. I used 133
Hello Rawls
For Biodiesel contact Bill Isbister
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 503.591.0832 hes got the
biodiesel answers.
If you are interested in ethanol production you can
contact us.
The Revenoor Co
503.662.4173
www.revenoor.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hope this helps
Regards,
Terry D. Wilhlem
--- Rawls
Ken,
Those urging you to get a dose of reality need to observe their own
advice.
Yes, most methanol is a derivative of fossil fuels at present. Yet it
needn't stay that way, as green entremanures continually keep proving.
As well, ethanol for biodiesel manufacture poses some considerable
Group - I have set up a group (biofuelmanufacturer) on yahoo to discuss
topics pertaining to starting a small biofuel co-op/business. Please email
me @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the group is invitation only) if you are
interested in joining or if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Rawls Moore
Hello George
Hello Keith
Could you or Daniel give some detail on the process of producing
methanol from biogas.
Not me, other than to refer you to previous discussions in the
archives, as previous.
Maybe Daniel can help you - on-list I hope, if so, there are lots of
people who want to know
Hello gaw
The only part I am interested in is the automatic control.
What kind of control was it?
Where was it installed?
Where was the sensor probe placed?
I am working on building a fuel grade still and would be distilling
larger volumes of wort. Wouldn't want to have to baby sit my still.
What's your plan for the methanol, by the way? You want to make fuel
ethanol, are you considering using methanol as a fuel?
regards
Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Osaka, Japan
http://journeytoforever.org/
Hello Keith
As I understand it Methanol can be
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From: Keith Addison
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 21:03
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol from biomass
Hello George
Hello Keith
Could you or Daniel give some detail on the process of producing
methanol from biogas.
Not me, other
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From: George Wessel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 21:21
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol from biomass
As I understand it Methanol can be produced from CO and Hydrogen. This
requires pressure beyond my abilities and a
Group - I have set up a group (biofuelmanufacturer) on yahoo to discuss
topics pertaining to starting a small biofuel co-op/business. Please email
me @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the group is invitation only) if you are
interested in joining or if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Rawls Moore
Hm...
Rawls,
Don't know about the invite...
There's a strong undercurrent in the bio-diesel business at the moment, with
some pretty significant corporate interests trying to discern where all the
pawns are and what they are up to.
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