Thank you, Keith, for your very ood arguments
Regards
Reinhard Henning
Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Hello Chuck
Strictly from the standpoint of efficiency, growing a plant that produced an
acceptable yield of fuel for diesel engines without processing any further
than
Hallo Thor Skov,
I think I know a plant that is nearly in the way you whish:
It is Jatropha curcas, a shrub, with little demand of water and good soil,
which grows in tropical and subtropical countries. It does not stand frost.
This shrub (a botanical relative of the castor plant) produces
Hallo Thor Skov,
I think I know a plant that is nearly in the way you whish:
Snip
This oil, after extraction and sedimentation, can be used directly as a
substitute of diesel in precombustion chamber diesel engines (like Mercedes
personel cars).
HUGE SNIP
Most Modern Diesels do not
So far, this is what we've had from GMOs, as far as biofuels are concerned:
http://www.safe2use.com/ca-ipm/01-02-05-study.htm
GM Bacteria could destroy all life on earth - Report
Klebsiella planticola--The Gene-Altered Monster That Almost Got Away
The Deadly Genetically Engineered Bacteria
Thank you, Keith, for your very ood arguments
Regards
Reinhard Henning
Thankyou, Reinhard - Thor's was better though, IMHO.
regards
Keith
Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Hello Chuck
Biofuels at Journey to Forever
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Hello Reinhard, Thor and all
Jatropha's great, but it's not the only one. I guess which is best
depends on the circumstances (as with all things!). Here are some
more:
Copaifera langsdorfii Desf.
Caesalpiniaceae
Diesel tree
That the oleoresin called copaiba could be obtained by incising the
Have you tried the sections of the CFR that deal with Department of Energy
or Department of Transportation?
timothyennuinet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
06/05/2002 11:41 PM
Please respond to biofuels-biz
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
cc: (bcc: Shaen Rooney/APCP/DEQ/MODNR)
Here is a summary nof the situation with the EPA as prepared by Dr. Shine
Tyson of the national renewable Energy lab, and editied by me.
Tom Leue
I finally reached Joe Sopata at EPA and we discussed the registration issue.
It appears that you were correct that because biodiesel isn't a
The oil can be used in modern Diesels also. You have to do some modificaton.
I put some addresses of persons and firms in the internet, who do such
modifications in Germany.
http://www.jatropha.org/p-o-engines/conversion-cars.htm
Best regards
Reinhard Henning
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SunflowerI am new to this list and am about to do my first series of test
batches of fuel. I was going to do a few 10ltr batches to check the
titration results etc.
Now for my Question.
What is the issue if the ignition is not retarded 2-3 deg? As I live in
Australia and cover many outback
http://www.theecologist.co.uk/archive_article.html?article=263category=47
The Ecologist - ARCHIVE
The Reality Principle: The consequences of oil shortages
Date Published: 22/10/2001
Author: David Fleming
In the heat of the coming oil shock Green ideals will be forged into
hard economic
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 06:27:31PM +1000, Neil and Adele Craven wrote:
Now for my Question.
What is the issue if the ignition is not retarded 2-3 deg? As I live in
Australia and cover many outback Klms where fuel production would not be
possible (Thankfully I have 265ltrs on board
This does not mean that ethical judgement will become obsolete, but
that ethics and practice will converge. The task of building an
energy-efficient localised economy at least 25 years too late may
well be futile - but there is one good outcome. This time, having
explored all alternatives, human
EPA Ruling Backfires, Spurs Sales of Diesel Trucks
http://www.nationalcenter.org/TSR60502.html
DATE: June 5, 2002
BACKGROUND: The Wall Street Journal (1) reported recently that long-haul
truck sales have skyrocketed primarily as trucking firms buy new rigs
before new anti-pollution rules
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:25:31AM -0500, Tee wrote:
EPA Ruling Backfires, Spurs Sales of Diesel Trucks
http://www.nationalcenter.org/TSR60502.html
DATE: June 5, 2002
BACKGROUND: The Wall Street Journal (1) reported recently that long-haul
truck sales have skyrocketed primarily as
I am knew in thsi list.
I would like to produce sunflower oil and I don't know what kind of
equipment i should use. Could you help me?
And, do you usually burn it with glicerin or take it out? What about
motor problems after 200 hours for waste acumulation inside motor?
regards,
I am knew in thsi list.
I would like to produce sunflower oil and I don't know what kind of
equipment i should use. Could you help me?
And, do you usually burn it with glicerin or take it out? What about
motor problems after 200 hours for waste acumulation inside motor?
regards,
Questions concerning the conversion of car engines to run with plant oil you
will find under
http://www.jatropha.org/p-o-engines/conversion-cars.htm
To extract sunflower oil you can use manual presses or mechanical expellers.
Examples of both you find at:
H, been far longer than the ten second responce -- or the 30 minute. So,
cat got your tongue?
--
Harmon Seaver
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
Biofuels list archives:
http://archive.nnytech.net/
How much seed do you want to press per hour? Where are you located?
Regards,
Edward Beggs, BES, MSc
http://www.biofuels.ca
on 6/6/02 10:08 AM, marcohgcardoso at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am knew in thsi list.
I would like to produce sunflower oil and I don't know what kind of
This does not mean that ethical judgement will become obsolete, but
that ethics and practice will converge. The task of building an
energy-efficient localised economy at least 25 years too late may
well be futile - but there is one good outcome. This time, having
explored all alternatives,
I am knew in thsi list.
I would like to produce sunflower oil and I don't know what kind of
equipment i should use. Could you help me?
And, do you usually burn it with glicerin or take it out? What about
motor problems after 200 hours for waste acumulation inside motor?
regards,
See:
No I don't waste my time.
Give your ego a rest. Your not that impressive.
At 01:25 PM 6/6/02 -0500, you wrote:
H, been far longer than the ten second responce -- or the 30
minute. So,
cat got your tongue?
--
Harmon Seaver
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com
Biofuel at
Keith writes:
A very industrialised post-modern view, Ken - ie, naively
pessimistic. :-) Your REAL hasn't applied to most humans
who've lived, and still doesn't to most now alive, who're
neither industrialised nor post-modern, for the most part.
Maybe they'll succeed in skipping this little blip
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:58:35PM -0500, Tee wrote:
Sad what this list has come too. Name calling and put downs the tools of
small minded people.
Who was it started name calling and putdowns? Ego, etc., eh?
And what, exactly, is the name calling you're upset about?
The article is
Anybody every investigate these people? Is this one of the Wise Use
groups?
Gretchen Randall, Director
John P. McGovern, MD Center for Environmental and Regulatory Affairs
The National Center for Public Policy Research
Contact the author at: 773-857-5086 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 08:07:32AM +1000, Neil and Adele Craven wrote:
my mistake injection timing, which on a Diesel is similar to the ignition
timing on a petrol.
Neil
yes, right - still the same question -- why would you want to do this?
Why would you want to retard the
Sad what this list has come too. Name calling and put downs the tools of
small minded people.
The article is being reported by many sources and if you feel it needs to
be debunked.
Then by all means have at it.
At 03:02 PM 6/6/02 -0500, you wrote:
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 02:59:52PM
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 08:30:59AM +1000, Neil and Adele Craven wrote:
Also, retard the injection timing by 2-3 degrees -- this overcomes the effect
of biodiesel's higher cetane number. The engine loses a little of the extra
power you get with biodiesel, but it runs quieter and the fuel
my mistake injection timing, which on a Diesel is similar to the ignition
timing on a petrol.
Neil
Why would you want to retard the ignition? This is the first I've ever heard
of anyone doing this with biodiesel.
--
Harmon Seaver
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com
Ken writes:
Keith writes:
A very industrialised post-modern view, Ken - ie, naively
pessimistic. :-) Your REAL hasn't applied to most humans
who've lived, and still doesn't to most now alive, who're
neither industrialised nor post-modern, for the most part.
Maybe they'll succeed in
On the lighter side of the issue though:
Once, by mistake, I placed a statement (below) on this site (while trying to
send it to a friend of mine privately): It said, you know, Tom, this site is
crowed with urchins, so, don't worry.
Now, I feel was not wrong after all!! :).
Now, again,
Also, retard the injection timing by 2-3 degrees -- this overcomes the effect
of biodiesel's higher cetane number. The engine loses a little of the extra
power you get with biodiesel, but it runs quieter and the fuel burns cooler,
reducing NOx emissions. (See also NOx emissions and biodiesel.)
While we're at it, how about a discussion of the sucking trucking industry
anyway? Just another one of the big suckers at the public teat, truckers. We
always hear a lot of bad press for Amtrack here in the US from the right wing
and free market types, but no mention from those same people
Well, as they say, chacun son gout. I think we're talking
a difference of temperament here, rather than a real difference
of opinion. I have great respect for anyone who can remain
optimistic these days, and I definitely appreciate this egroup,
both for the great info as well as a place to
We don't need everyone to do the right thing. Just some.
ÊÊTo paraphrase anthropologist Margaret Mead, never underestimate the power
of a small group of individuals to change the world. In fact, it is the only
thing that ever has.
on 6/6/02 5:57 PM, Ken Provost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This goes along the same lines as who should pay for airport security?
Me? No. I don't fly. Adding $5 to every ticket won't hurt one thing.
--- Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What we really need in this country is to mandate that absolutely no road
construction or repair be done
That's the first I've heard of anyone proposing to retard timing to lower NOx
-- is anyone actually doing this? A catalytic converter would do the job with no
loss of power or milage, and no increase in particulates. Of course, you
couldn't run our high sulfur dinodiesel thru it then, but
Harmon Seaver wrote:
I think you don't understand what octance (cetane) ratings are all about.
If
anything, with a higher octane (or cetane, as the case may be) you would
benefit
from *advancing* the timing, not retarding it. At any rate, where did you get
this idea of changing the
http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy01osti/30882.pdf
If you look at page 2, there are no autoignition temp numbers for biodiesel.
Bad news for those who are trying to develop a home heating oil system. I
wonder if you could start a furnace on regular diesel and then switch over
to bio like in a car?
MH wrote:
CETANE NUMBERS
EUROPE: 43 - 57, average 50
U.S. lower, minimum 40, average 43
Higher cetane correlates with:
improved combustion
improved cold starting
reduced noise, white smoke, HC, CO and particulate
emissions particularly during early warm-up phase
MOTOR
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gee, I thought that's exactely what I did -- where's your
answer? So far all
we've seen from you in response is ad hominem attacks -- c'mon
address the
issue!
How long have you been working for the gov't?
Geez, we
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