[biofuels-biz] NYC Biofuel Questions

2002-10-14 Thread murdoch
Spoke last night with a relative in NYC, asking about living there, how she liked it. She volunteered that she liked it and it was home. The only complaint she voiced was as to air quality. This was a bit unexpected... I wasn't looking to have a conversation about any of the enviro-stuff that I

[biofuels-biz] Vehicle Impounding - UK

2002-10-14 Thread Andrew Preston
I'm pretty new to biofuels and have been trying to get up to speed by doing lots of internet browsing. I'm probably not too detailed on all the circumstances of the 5 recent people fined in Wales. But it seems to me that the police action is in breach of the UK Human Rights Act. The Act works

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] NYC Biofuel Questions

2002-10-14 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM snip I have one reservation, however offbeat, which under the Precautionary Principle, I am required to follow up on: what is the latest word on that recent surprising research finding as to the allegedly carcinogenic properties of French Fries and other fried potatos products? I can't

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] NYC Biofuel Questions

2002-10-14 Thread murdoch
This isn't a concern. Do an archive search for acrylamide, lots of information there. There were too many posts, many of which are not to the point, and I don't have time right now. A different chemical, acrolein, is emitted when you burn vegetable oils, or glycerin, at low temperatures, but

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] NYC Biofuel Questions

2002-10-14 Thread Keith Addison
MM wrote: This isn't a concern. Do an archive search for acrylamide, lots of information there. There were too many posts, many of which are not to the point, and I don't have time right now. A different chemical, acrolein, is emitted when you burn vegetable oils, or glycerin, at low

RE: [biofuel] Hydrated ethanol/diesel fuel blends

2002-10-14 Thread Fred Enga
This is a rather old report. For updated details our site www.gaianbioenergy.com has detailed technical data on this Diesohol, including emission results Fred Enga -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 10, 2002 7:22 PM To:

RE: [biofuel] More on Australia and Ethanol and Engine Damage Claims

2002-10-14 Thread Fred Enga
The situation in Australia is a complex mess of greed and miss-information. The 10% limit is well proven and accepted by the engine manufacturers. The problem started when certain vested interests in the ethanol business allowed some cowboy outfits to start blending higher than 10%. This was

Re: [biofuel] Hydrated ethanol/diesel fuel blends

2002-10-14 Thread George Wessel
I do now. I took 2 oz's of No 2 diesel, 2 oz's of soybean oil, and 1 oz of Everclear. The diesel and SVO mixed very well. The alcohol separated out and formed a clear layer on top within a very few minutes. I topped this off with some gasoline, hoping to help out, and the gasoline mixed

[biofuel] Starship Generations Update

2002-10-14 Thread womplex_oo1
Well, not really. But I've improved by renewable energy transportation ideas. There is no quick fix for renewable energy. This is the conclusion of months of research. It is my opinion that maintaining our way of life using renewable energy can only be achieved with great patience, and a

Re: [biofuel] Starship Generations Update

2002-10-14 Thread Keith Addison
womplex_oo1 wrote: Well, not really. But I've improved by renewable energy transportation ideas. There is no quick fix for renewable energy. No quick fix for energy. This is the conclusion of months of research. It is my opinion that maintaining our way of life using renewable energy can

[biofuel] Re: Starship Generations Update

2002-10-14 Thread womplex_oo1
It's not that I don't disagree with you, but the scale of development at present will require a direct substitution of fuel sources or else it will cease to function. Why our politicians continue to promote growth absolutely escapes me! But I should clarify my statement: Maintaining our

Re: [biofuel] Starship Generations Update

2002-10-14 Thread Hakan Falk
Dear Keith, I am trying to reduce my postings somewhat, because this discussion list is addictive like a drug. It is many very good issues brought up and with all rights being on topic, even if it sometimes do not look so. Energy issues goes to the heart of our societies/behavior and fabric

[biofuel] Re: Starship Generations Update

2002-10-14 Thread Keith Addison
womplex_oo1 wrote: It's not that I don't disagree with you, but the scale of development at present will require a direct substitution of fuel sources or else it will cease to function. That's right. With any luck. Past high time you got into appropriate technology. You can learn how from the

[biofuel] NYC Biofuel Questions

2002-10-14 Thread murdoch
Spoke last night with a relative in NYC, asking about living there, how she liked it. She volunteered that she liked it and it was home. The only complaint she voiced was as to air quality. This was a bit unexpected... I wasn't looking to have a conversation about any of the enviro-stuff that I

Re: [biofuel] Hydrated ethanol/diesel fuel blends

2002-10-14 Thread Ken Basterfield
Please can you distinguish between No. 2 Diesel and No. 3? It is not a classification system we use in the UK. Does it relate to viscosity? Are there any other No. of Diesel Oils? Ken - Original Message - From: George Wessel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: 14 October

[biofuel] FW: Cancer link threat to snack food industry

2002-10-14 Thread kirk
Murdoch: Was this the thing you were thinking about? Kirk Cancer link threat to snack food industry Cancer link threat to snack food industry By Charles Arthur Technology Editor 13 October 2002 The Independent (UK) A breakthrough discovery into how a potentially cancer- causing

[biofuel] editorial

2002-10-14 Thread dan
Well, here it is. After presenting to a small group of anti war folks in Rochester about how we should be spending that 150 billion on moving away from fossil fuels I was moved to write. Now I know some of you will go on about how we need the war etc. that is not why I am writing this.

Re: [biofuel] editorial

2002-10-14 Thread Hakan Falk
Dan, I like it very much, but like to tell you that bio diesel do not need two fuel deposits. I am not the right one to tell you this, so you will probably hear this from many on this list, with very good arguments. I hope that you did not eat bio diesel, I am not sure that it is as healthy

Re: [biofuel] FW: Cancer link threat to snack food industry

2002-10-14 Thread murdoch
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Re: [biofuel] Hydrated ethanol/diesel fuel blends

2002-10-14 Thread George Wessel
We have No 1 through at lease No 6. Their could be heavier diesel oil out their but I have never heard of it. I'm sure each one is based on some unit of heat, viscosity, or something. No 1 diesel is the lightest and I have always heard that it cannot be burned directly in diesel motors.

Re: [biofuel] NYC Biofuel Questions

2002-10-14 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM snip I have one reservation, however offbeat, which under the Precautionary Principle, I am required to follow up on: what is the latest word on that recent surprising research finding as to the allegedly carcinogenic properties of French Fries and other fried potatos products? I can't

Re: [biofuel] More on Australia and Ethanol and Engine Damage Claims

2002-10-14 Thread murdoch
The 10% limit is well proven and accepted by the engine manufacturers. Yes, I remember owning an '89 Saab Turbo that mentioned something like a 12% limit or so to staying within warrantee and, within whatever percentage it spelled out for ethanol and MTBE, it was quite clear that this was

Re: [biofuel] NYC Biofuel Questions

2002-10-14 Thread murdoch
This isn't a concern. Do an archive search for acrylamide, lots of information there. There were too many posts, many of which are not to the point, and I don't have time right now. A different chemical, acrolein, is emitted when you burn vegetable oils, or glycerin, at low temperatures, but

Re: [biofuel] NYC Biofuel Questions

2002-10-14 Thread Keith Addison
MM wrote: This isn't a concern. Do an archive search for acrylamide, lots of information there. There were too many posts, many of which are not to the point, and I don't have time right now. A different chemical, acrolein, is emitted when you burn vegetable oils, or glycerin, at low