[biofuels-biz] Kurds go it alone with international oil deals

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=407177 Kurds go it alone with international oil deals Local authorities ignore US administration and seek to lure major companies with generous contracts Andrew Buncombe in Washington 18 May 2003 Kurdish authorities in northern

[biofuels-biz] FW: Final version of the biofuel directive published.

-Original Message- From: Niels Ans¿ - FC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 May 2003 14:14 To: Int. Pure Plant Oil Group Subject: Final version of the biofuel directive published. News about Pure Plant Oil for Transportation - May 20th., 2003 The final version of the European

[biofuels-biz] Senate Tax Bill Contains Fourfold Increase of SUV Tax Loophole

http://ens-news.com/ens/may2003/2003-05-19-09.asp#anchor3 Senate Tax Bill Contains Fourfold Increase of SUV Tax Loophole WASHINGTON, DC, May 19, 2003 (ENS) - The $350 billion tax cut passed by the Senate late last week contains a $100,000 tax break for buyers of the largest, least fuel

[biofuels-biz] Axles of evil

Axles of evil Arnold Schwarzenegger has five. Mike Tyson has four. And they account for a third of all car sales in the US. But now, says Gary Younge, environmentalists are going to war against the SUV It's Tuesday night on the Upper West Side and Adam Weinstock has his work cut out. As we

Re: [biofuel] supposed benefits of fluorine was toothpaste as poison

Have a look on the nexus magazine site for the real reason that flouride is used. Conspiracy theory? Who's knows, but it reads well. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.

Re: [biofuel] Fire Mitigation

I forgot to comment that if they don't get going, and the 40 million acres most at risk burns, before they get started, there won't be much environment left to study. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 19,

[biofuel] solar colector ( was Re: price of methanol )

Do you have any pics. or drawings of it? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Brent S [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 08:54 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: price of methanol Wish I had somewhere to take a course. I have always been far ahead of

[biofuel] Fw: [wastewatts] Potash, water and electricity = heat?

Saw this on another list, and looks interesting if it is for real. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 14:52 Subject: [wastewatts] Potash, water and electricity = heat? Link below is two lines long...

Re: [biofuel] FFA

Hello Keith The WVO smell makes you gag. Just think I lived there for 2 years being none the wiser. I guess well what you dont know cant hurt - that much anyhow! The solid precipitate forms quite rapidly. It maybe glycerol, it can't be many other compounds in all honesty. Regards Mark

[biofuel] Fwd: ninemsn Search hitler and flourine -- More Useful Everyday

From: Duncan Emmerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ninemsn Search hitler and flourine -- More Useful Everyday Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 11:23:57 +1200 http://search.ninemsn.com.au/results.asp?RS=CHECKEDForm=HMcp=1252v=1q=hitler+and+flourinex=31y=13

[biofuel] Fwd: The Urban Ecology Of Cannabis @ HEMP SA

From: Duncan Emmerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Urban Ecology Of Cannabis @ HEMP SA Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 11:44:31 +1200 http://www.hemp.on.net/final_folder/about_us/what_weve_done/campaigns/industrial_env/urbecocan.html

[biofuel] Gardner Watts breakthrough discovery

I just came across this story in today's London Daily Telegrah. Anyone car= e to comment? Take water and potash, add electricity and get - a mystery By Robert Matthews, Science Correspondent (Filed: 18/05/2003) British researchers believe that they have made a groundbreaking

Re: [biofuel] Toothpaste as poison

On Tue, 20 May 2003 12:08 am, Keith Addison wrote: Hi Todd Another proponent of acceptable risk I see. hang on. That's stretching it a bit, don't you think? I am a proponent of the social contract, the idea that a society is not a bunch of individuals, nor a state devoid of individualism,

Re: [biofuel] Natural pH-Indicators

On Mon, 19 May 2003 02:01 pm, Tom Gehlen wrote: Im being faced with the clean up of rather heavy clay soaked with old motor oil. What are the most effective processes currently being used for reclaiming such an environmental problem. Is there a process that produces a positive environmental

Re: [biofuel] Hydrogen Fuel Leak Simulation Dr. Michael R. Swain

On Sun, 18 May 2003 11:08 am, kirk wrote: http://www.unusualresearch.com/Hydrogen/hydrogen.htm Hi all. personally I wouldn't trust anything coming from a site that, to my mind, has all the hallmarks of a crack-pot science site On the other hand, hydrogen is well know to have a smaller

RE: [biofuel] Wind Power -- a European Success Story

NO...Because it is intermittent, wind can not be relied upon for use in the on- demand part of the power supply. The wind might die just when you need it. Therefore, if it is in the base supply, and the wind dies, the on-demand stuff such as gas turbine supply can kick in to make up the

Re: [biofuel] filtering oil

I can get cleanable stainless steel mesh. I bought some 25 micron to make a reusable filter for my mercedes two tank system. I plan to buy some 80 micron and 5 micron mesh as well. If anyone wants some too I can order some extra. Andy - Original Message - From: William Clark [EMAIL

[biofuel] Cal Energy Commision

Well, as some of you know, the CEC ARB (Cal Energy Commission Air Resources Board) are doing a joint study in response to legislation (a law) to find ways to reduce petroleum use in California. I attended the latest public workshop to offer my silly ideas and hear their good ones. To sum up,

[biofuel] acid esterification Re: FFA

OK, different Mark chiming in, my turn: I've been wondering about this white precipitate too. I haven't seen too much 'first stage glycerine' in general because I dont' usually make test batches (but Todd can you PLEASE re-post your test batch method for acid-base like you just did on

[biofuel] todd Sewaringen's acid-base test batch method reposted again

oops, sorry about sending the last lengthy message twice. Here is Todd Swearingen's modified two-stage acid base method for test batches: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Biodiesel/message/2504 Please take a look at it if you're interested in trying out this method, maby people are put off by

[biofuel] correction- equilibrium was acid esterification Re: FFA

I wrote something confusing in that tome of a post- here's a correction: I wrote : this allows in the industrial scenario for several neat tricks (all depending on methanol recovery) the methanol/water can be boiled off in a still or flash evaporator during the process, so as to

Re: [biofuel] todd Sewaringen's acid-base test batch method reposted again

Hi Mark A ??? - what was wrong with Girl Mark? :-) oops, sorry about sending the last lengthy message twice. Here is Todd Swearingen's modified two-stage acid base method for test batches: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Biodiesel/message/2504 Please take a look at it if you're interested in

[biofuel] another tome on fuel-making Re: todd

Please take a look at it if you're interested in trying out this method, maby people are put off by thinking they'll need a specialized reactor to try acid- base (I certainly thought so for a long time). I don't know why people think that - can you tell me why? If there's something

PLEASE READ THIS - was Re: [biofuel] Natural pH-Indicators

Did you not see this previous message, Dr Paul van den Bergen? Subject headings - was Re: Natural pH-Indicators http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=24955list=BIOFUEL To save you the trouble, it said this: Please change the subject line when you change the subject - basic Netiquette,

Re: [biofuel] FFA

Hello Mark Hello Keith The WVO smell makes you gag. Just think I lived there for 2 years being none the wiser. I guess well what you dont know cant hurt - that much anyhow! Ignorance is bliss? Ignorance is dangerous! The solid precipitate forms quite rapidly. It maybe glycerol, it can't be

[biofuel] more on what confused me about acidbase was another tome

--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, girl_mark_fire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please take a look at it if you're interested in trying out this method, maby people are put off by thinking they'll need a specialized reactor to try acid- base (I certainly thought so for a long time). I

Re: [biofuel] acid esterification Re: FFA

Dear Mark Thanks for the response. I have found a grim supply of free oil from a University campus kitchen. It takes 6.8cc of 0.025M NaOH solution to turn to pH 8.5 via Phenolthalein titration. This I have no problem with. So, I mix 200cc anhydrous methanol and 10.3g of analytical grade NaOH

Re: [biofuel] FFA

Hi Yes I have followed the instructions by Aleks on the acid-base technique. Before the base stage, I form a solid precipitate in the oil. Mark __ It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. Call 08709 32 to give or donate online now

Re: [biofuel] Toothpaste as poison

My ability to discuss, or argue, knowledgeably about chemistry is about zero. I was, however, very glad that the original piece, about the truckload of aluminium dioxide, got posted. Because now, when I buy toothpaste, or for example, deodorant, there's now a question, Is this really OK for me.

Re: [biofuel] Toothpaste as poison

Dr Paul van den Bergen wrote: snip You're having an argument with Todd, fine, go ahead, but the message you've responded to isn't Todd's message, it's my response to Todd's message, as I'm sure you know. So the following bit wasn't written by Todd, but by me - why don't you acknowledge that?

Re: [biofuel] more on what confused me about acidbase was another tome

Hi Mark Thanks for this and previous, sensible suggestions, useful input, and if this list allowed html (which it doesn't and shouldn't), this unsmiley for the wanton damage done by village idiots who care only about their own warped egos would be 144pt Tempo Sans Ultra-Bold, and multi-hued,

Re: [biofuel] - Weight Question

Do anyone know how many Kg there are in a liter of BioD? Craig Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/uetFAA/FGYolB/TM

[biofuel] biodiesel production using microbes

hi has anyone cross come across a paper regarding biodiesel production using microbes,it would be great great for my research Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.

Re: [biofuel] - Weight Question

I'd probably think something like 0.80 to 0.90kg per L depending upon in the inpit crude oil / fat. Mark __ It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. Call 08709 32 to give or donate online now at

[biofuel] A question about using SVO/WVO in the U.S.

I've searched the archive trying to find information on this, and haven't found any yet (although I must say, this list has a HUGE archive!). Does anyone know about any legal hitches with using SVO/WVO in the U.S.? I seem to be able to find companies selling kits to allow SVO/WVO to be used in

Re: [biofuel] acid esterification Re: FFA

Mark A., The micro-step by micro-step acid/base walk thru is found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Biodiesel/message/2504 The white precipitate that you and (the other) Mark have mentioned in the pre-wash stages has never been noticed here at the stopping points. I believe that Mark took

Re: [biofuel] - Weight Question

Do anyone know how many Kg there are in a liter of BioD? Craig Hi Craig You'll find info on that and much else here - not a very well-named page, but it started that way and then grew: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html Vegetable oil yields, characteristics Vegetable oil

[biofuel] Corning Stirrer/hot plate

I am doing a shop cleanup (got the big layoff) and am clearing out my stuff. I have a Corning Stirrer/hot plate model PC-420, NEW!!!, busted (gone, nothing left) ceramic top. If interested E-mail me off list. David Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[biofuel] Kurds go it alone with international oil deals

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=407177 Kurds go it alone with international oil deals Local authorities ignore US administration and seek to lure major companies with generous contracts Andrew Buncombe in Washington 18 May 2003 Kurdish authorities in northern

Re: [biofuel] solar colector ( was Re: price of methanol )

No pics or drawings of it, and I plan on changing the design a bit too. And haven't figured out if I'll run the oil through it or run a heat exchanger off of it to the oil. Ill post what I can when I get it finished. Brent Saskatchewan, Canada From: Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:

[biofuel] Biodiesel Coop

Hey Folks, Now that I have put some time into the development of a biodiesel processor for my school, I am interested in moving the benefits of biodiesel homebrewing out into local communities on Eleuthera. I am particularly interested in the biodiesel cooperative idea, or just simply

Re: [biofuel] A question about using SVO/WVO in the U.S.

Detrick, It has been discussed and as far as I understood it, it is legal to produce and use up to a specified amount during the year. I do not remember the amount, but it was enough for extensive driving of a large SUV, or driving two smaller family cars. Something around 1,500 gallon a year.

Re: [biofuel] A question about using SVO/WVO in the U.S.

Does anyone have the evidence to support this? In speaking with an engineer at the EPA (one I've seen quoted in several news articles describing crack downs on this type of operation), the EPA won't give approval for it until extensive testing has been completed. I'd feel more comfortable

[biofuel] Article on Buckling Up, Safety, Laws, Insurance and other Costs, Human Toll of Accidents

http://usatoday.com/usatonline/20030520/5171561s.htm This was a USAtoday cover story and I do apologize to the authors and publication for copying and pasting, but I don't wish to risk wasting my time and others' by pasting only a link which may or may not get folks to the story. As is often

[biofuel] white 'salt' (??) was acid esterification Re: FFA

I pour the soup into a 2L coke bottle and watch with a sense of delight. Oh man, delight at watching vegetable oil go 'round and 'round! I turned on a wash tank yesterday and actually got a smile on my face cause it looked like really good fuel. I then felt really stupid for getting a smile

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: [prep2003discuss2] Toothpaste as poison

Kris Book wrote: chorline will soon go the way that saccharin and DDT did, no accepting of responsibility by its manufacturers. Ummm. Saccharin is safe and has finally been delisted by the FDA. In Dec of 2000, Bill Clinton signed long overdue legislation that finally removed the warning

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: [prep2003discuss2] Toothpaste as poison

Doug Foskey wrote: When you use reverse Osmosis, the water is de-mineralised. This tends to strip trace elements from the body, which is detrimental to health. How do you protect against that? regards Doug You have got to be kidding me. Are you photosynthetic or something? If not,

Re: [biofuel] US government surplus diesel stuff

Hope you have a lot of money and time, the bidding gets hot. Greg H. ---Original Message--- From: Alan Petrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05/20/03 11:27 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] US government surplus diesel stuff a target=_blank

Re: [biofuel] Toothpaste as poison

Well Paul, I certainly prefer Keith's link to an article on his web site (plus ten links to similar sites), to your long dissertation backed up by nothing your status quo opinions. Are you trying to insure that next year's grant money will be available by acting like a good little soldier or are

Re: [biofuel] Toothpaste as poison

keep the disargeements civilized and enlightened folks...egocentricity has no place around here...if you choose to persist with the negativity, don't post to the group--just argue privately and save us all the vitriolic exchanges. peace2u and whateverr ;-) kn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/20/03

[biofuel] FW: Final version of the biofuel directive published.

-Original Message- From: Niels Ans¿ - FC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 May 2003 14:14 To: Int. Pure Plant Oil Group Subject: Final version of the biofuel directive published. News about Pure Plant Oil for Transportation - May 20th., 2003 The final version of the European

Re: [biofuel] A question about using SVO/WVO in the U.S.

Hello Detrick Aren't you confusing SVO/WVO with biodiesel? With biodiesel, the situation with the EPA etc is summed up here: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=24742list=BIOFUEL Please, everybody, this needs a test case - has there been a test case? Does anybody know, or have anything

[biofuel] Re: NBB and health effects data

Asking again - this needs a test case - has there been a test case? Does anybody know, or have anything to add to this? Thanks Keith There's been a lot of discussion here and elsewhere about small-producer certification, and a lot of confusion too, it seems. On the one hand there's been

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: [prep2003discuss2] Toothpaste as poison

I guess if you like chemicals in your diet. If the government really had our health in mind when they did this stuff, stevia would not have been banned in 1990 and would be allowed as an ingrediant in food. It only has a 3000 year history of no harm, it is a calorie free sweetner that as a

[biofuel] Senate Tax Bill Contains Fourfold Increase of SUV Tax Loophole

http://ens-news.com/ens/may2003/2003-05-19-09.asp#anchor3 Senate Tax Bill Contains Fourfold Increase of SUV Tax Loophole WASHINGTON, DC, May 19, 2003 (ENS) - The $350 billion tax cut passed by the Senate late last week contains a $100,000 tax break for buyers of the largest, least fuel

Re: [biofuel] Toothpaste as poison

Kim, Did someone die and leave the moderators job to you in their will or are you just the newest right wing meat on the menu? I'm sure there are more than just me around here who have had enough of the posts sent to this list supporeted by nothing but opinions. I started this thread by asking

RE: [biofuel] Hydrogen Fuel Leak Simulation Dr. Michael R. Swain

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. If we only judge information on how politically correct the source is then we may as well join the crowd and burn the heretics at the stake. The migration rate of hydrogen is such that even though it has the widest flammability range of any gas it is

Re: [biofuel] Toothpaste as poison

kris, this email from you is exactly what i meant in my listing...i mean your cutting wit is too much!after wishing you peace and suggesting that the negativity get tuned down a little between you and paul, or that it be done privately, i get this accusatory drivel? *...newest right wing

Re: [biofuel] FW: Final version of the biofuel directive published.

From the Peder Jensen report... The picture that emerges from the tests on modified engines indicate that emissions of most pollutants are somewhat lower in the case of SVO, but there is a tendency towards equal or slightly higher NOx emissions and ultra fine particles. I was under the

Re: [biofuel] Toothpaste as poison

Umph - this has all become rather more poisonous than toothpaste... kris, this email from you is exactly what i meant in my listing...i mean your cutting wit is too much!after wishing you peace and suggesting that the negativity get tuned down a little between you and paul, or that it be

[biofuel] Axles of evil

Axles of evil Arnold Schwarzenegger has five. Mike Tyson has four. And they account for a third of all car sales in the US. But now, says Gary Younge, environmentalists are going to war against the SUV It's Tuesday night on the Upper West Side and Adam Weinstock has his work cut out. As we

[biofuel] solar colector ( was Re: price of methanol )

My idea on a solar collector for BD involves running a heat eschanger. (disclaimer: I've been thinking about this for two years and haven't built it yet, so it's all in my head and needs to get taken with a greain of salt) The reason for the heat exchanger idea is that there are a few

[biofuel] Re: A question about using SVO/WVO in the U.S.

I would love it if you posted some more info on these crackdowns. I hven't heard of any in the united states, other than a rumor that was being spread by World Enertgy that the author eventually retracted and said he didn't actually know the truth about. mark --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com,

[biofuel] fuel max

biofuel@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi to all, I came across this in another project and wonder has any-one tried one in conjunction with bio-diesel http://www.hicloneqld.com/fuelmax.htm regards dD Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: [prep2003discuss2] Toothpaste as poison

Hello Kim I guess if you like chemicals in your diet. I guess... And no matter what the WHO or FDA or the entire medical profession might say, sensitized folks (doesn't exist, right?) and people with CFS, ME, fybromyalgia, systemic candidiasis, and all the other non-existent modern plagues

Re: [biofuel] Fire Mitigation

I forgot to comment that if they don't get going, and the 40 million acres most at risk burns, before they get started, there won't be much environment left to study. Greg H. http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15933 House Debates Orwellian Logging Bill By J.A. Savage, AlterNet May 19,

Re: [biofuel] Toothpaste as poison

hey keith...you're one really smart guy so why reaffirm someone who reacts by calling me some right wing menu item when i just suggested that the row with paul become private...notice i didn't accuse anyone of anything--i was just honestly (perhaps too much so) stating that i believed ego MIGHT

[biofuel] Re: Senate Tax Bill Contains Fourfold Increase of SUV Tax Loophole

The language in the tax cut bill would allow business owners to deduct up to $100,000 cost of a new, large-size SUV in just one year. I want to briefly address myself to what strikes me about this, and the objections raised to it by various groups, particularly environmentalist coalitions.

Re: [biofuel] FW: Final version of the biofuel directive published.

James, I read trough the Peder Jensen report and did not find it particularly serious. He is obvious in his bios against SVO and is desperately constructing arguments against it. It is deliberately not really clear if he compare the NOx and ultra fine particles with biodiesel or petro. But the

Re: [biofuel] solar colector

On Tuesday, May 20, 2003, at 02:13 PM, girl_mark_fire wrote: it means having a manifold with valves that can direct the heat exchange medium to different applications (more expensive parts-wise) which is what I want to do. I'd like to plumb my workshop with steam lines the way some shops

[biofuel] New Distillers FAQ

NEW DISTILLERS Frequently Asked Questions (Feb'03) Posted near the 1st of each month, to the NEW_DISTILLERS newsgroup at www.yahoogroups.com Please email any additions, corrections, clarifications required, etc regarding the FAQ to Tony Ackland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), however please

Re: [biofuel] Gardner Watts breakthrough discovery

Ed Fransen wrote: I just came across this story in today's London Daily Telegrah. Anyone care to comment? Take water and potash, add electricity and get - a mystery Let's see. . . Water, potash, platinum electrodes and current. . . It produces heat. . . Could this be plain old,

Re: [biofuel] Cal Energy Commision

Tim Castleman wrote: Well, as some of you know, the CEC ARB (Cal Energy Commission Air Resources Board) are doing a joint study in response to legislation (a law) to find ways to reduce petroleum use in California. I attended the latest public workshop to offer my silly ideas and hear

RE: [biofuel] Gardner Watts breakthrough discovery

In results independently verified at Bristol University, a team from Gardner Watts - an environmental technology company based in Dedham, Essex - show a thermal energy cell which appears to produce hundreds of times more energy than that put into it. If the findings are correct and can be

Re: [biofuel] Gardner Watts breakthrough discovery

kirk wrote: In results independently verified at Bristol University, a team from Gardner Watts - an environmental technology company based in Dedham, Essex - show a thermal energy cell which appears to produce hundreds of times more energy than that put into it. If the findings are correct