[biofuel] Re: The Oil We Eat: Following the food chain back to Iraq

2004-04-16 Thread Brian
As usual, there is more to the story than just my mind has been able to imagine on its own. I have been thinking a great deal lately about self sufficiency, and taking baby steps toward same. One of the factors in my interest in biofuels. In this, like everything else in life, what I am

[biofuel] Methoxide - was Re: Biogas was Rejoining list with a question

2004-04-16 Thread Marc Orion Cardoso
Thanks for the answers they are helpfull im very impressed with what I see on thejourney website (always have been).Yes Im a newbie to processing biodiesel but an oldie on algaeculture technology for oil production and algae based Living fuel cell technology. and..Of course, im an long

Re: [biofuel] Re: Biogas was Rejoining list with a question

2004-04-16 Thread Kim Garth Travis
I thank you for the offer, but at this time I think it is too large a capacity. While I do have 2 cows, they are pastured at all times, so collecting their dung is not convenient. We do have rabbits, [At present 30, but this changes constantly,]humans [2] and pigs [5] that the dung is easy

[biofuel] steam turbine

2004-04-16 Thread shorthairlvr
I been curious about steam trubine engins for a car for some time. However when I look for info all I get is old piston driven steam turbine engins. Would love to have turbine of this type to experament with. Anyone know of a page on building one or where one could be obtained cheap? One way

[biofuel] Re: clean diesels more dangerous --- Keith?

2004-04-16 Thread f150_351m
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had a message a few weeks back from someone taking exception to a report that the current US administration was ignoring ready-to-use technologies in its energy, um, what to say, energy schemes. As a sceptical

[biofuel] Re: clean diesels more dangerous --- Keith?

2004-04-16 Thread f150_351m
Are you aware of any studies that look at percentages of traffic fatalities are caused by oversize vehicle vs small vehicle collisions. I think that this would be interesting. Relationships between Vehicle Size and Fatality Risk in Model Year 1985-93 Passenger Cars and Light Trucks NHTSA

[biofuel] Re: clean diesels more dangerous --- Keith?

2004-04-16 Thread f150_351m
many years, at least three decades, Mercedes and VOLVO has been world leaders in car safety and at the same time fuel consumption in its class of cars. Unfortunately priced out of my range! 8^( True or not, what you definitely can say about small cars is that there's a lot less ego-food

[biofuel] Sodium Hydroxide Beads

2004-04-16 Thread biobenz
THIS I can get and fairly cheaply, so what I am wondering is how much longer than flakes will it take to disolve (8 liters methanol) I will be using the Methoxide the Easy Way method. I can only get flakes through a chemical supply house and it costs; a small batch (500 gr)of flakes technical

[biofuel] Processing Temps - found it !

2004-04-16 Thread biobenz
On the first page of the JourneyToFoerever Make Your Own Biodiesel, go figure. Meanwhile we'd warmed the 10 litres of new oil in a steel bucket on the stove to about 40 deg C (104 deg F) to thin it so it mixed better. In fact, 55 deg C (131 deg F) is a better processing temperature. So, if I

[biofuel] How much is biofuel per gallon?

2004-04-16 Thread bearforu2
I can buy a quart of veggie oil for $3 but what about the lye etc? How much does it end up costing? Anyone measured the emissions and energy imput form the processing? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP,

Re: [biofuel] clean diesels more dangerous --- Keith?

2004-04-16 Thread Keith Addison
G'day Robert Keith Addison wrote: snip God Bless America. It surely needs the help, to rid itself of such attitudes as yours. Edward Beggs Funny, I was thinking much the same thing... That's a little ambiguous in its phrasing, Mr Williams snip Actually,

Re: [biofuel] Re: Biogas was Rejoining list with a question

2004-04-16 Thread Art Krenzel
Kim, Here is an outline from a friend of mine in India where biogas technology is quite standard. 1 Kg of starch or sugar produces about 400 liters of high quality biogas in about 8 hours which should be sufficient to cook your meals for the next day. It may require more manure by weight

[biofuel] Re: clean diesels more dangerous --- Keith?

2004-04-16 Thread fremontjon
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith Addison wrote: snip God Bless America. It surely needs the help, to rid itself of such attitudes as yours. Edward Beggs Funny, I was thinking much the same thing...

[biofuel] Re: The Oil We Eat: Following the food chain back to Iraq

2004-04-16 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Brian As usual, there is more to the story than just my mind has been able to imagine on its own. Yes, as usual - I suppose we all say that (or should). But Brian, why leave your mind to imagine on its own? Join and share with others, as you said in another message about bartering

[biofuel] PNGV etc - was Re: clean diesels more dangerous --- Keith?

2004-04-16 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Ed --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had a message a few weeks back from someone taking exception to a report that the current US administration was ignoring ready-to-use technologies in its energy, um, what to say, energy schemes. As a

[biofuel] oil from algae...

2004-04-16 Thread wwschnabel
Does anyone have any information on extracting oil from algae? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h

[biofuel] Re: Processing Temperatures to Keith

2004-04-16 Thread Keith Addison
No, actually I am refering to the single stage regular type process. The problem I am forecasting and trying to avoid is when using a water pump with the water heater processor I don't want to end up gumming the pump with solidified glycerine, s, I figure that once having mixed it for about

Re: [biofuel] Processing Temps - found it !

2004-04-16 Thread Keith Addison
On the first page of the JourneyToFoerever Make Your Own Biodiesel, go figure. Meanwhile we'd warmed the 10 litres of new oil in a steel bucket on the stove to about 40 deg C (104 deg F) to thin it so it mixed better. In fact, 55 deg C (131 deg F) is a better processing temperature. Yes. Mike

[biofuel] Re: Biogas

2004-04-16 Thread Grahams
At 12:33 AM 4/16/2004, you wrote: Message: 16 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:06:43 -0500 From: Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Biogas was Rejoining list with a question I thank you for the offer, but at this time I think it is too large a capacity. While I do have 2

[biofuel] Re: oil from algae...

2004-04-16 Thread Marc Orion Cardoso
Hi. We have done extensive rd in algae production for food fuel and fertiliser... go to our website for more on this topic. click on the tour ecogenics and youll see various fuel grade algaes being propagated... also, we have one of the most comprehensive manuals on the topic. there are

Re: [biofuel] Re: The Oil We Eat: Following the food chain back to Iraq

2004-04-16 Thread Kim Garth Travis
This is a wonderful idea, but we have found that finding anyone who is interested in actually doing the work, is a very different story. We would love to live with that kind of community, and have joined many community lists, but there doesn't seem to be anyone interested in this part of

[biofuel] Methanol supplies

2004-04-16 Thread michael hicks
Hi all. Have been studdying biodiesel for a while now building up apparatus and chemicals etc. Want to try my first test batch but have had difficulty in finding a Methanol supplier who will deal with Jo puplic. I don't think my work would appreciate me having Methanol delivered otherwise id

[biofuel] Methanol supplies

2004-04-16 Thread michael hicks
Hi all. I need to purchase some methanol for my first test batch 25ltr would be nice but am having proplems with chemical companys not dealing with jo public. Anyone know of eny freindly suppliers in the Bristol U.K. area Cheers Myke - Yahoo!

[biofuel] Re: oil from algae...

2004-04-16 Thread tomasjkn
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Marc Orion Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. We have done extensive rd in algae production for food fuel and fertiliser... go to our website for more on this topic. click on the tour ecogenics and youll see various fuel grade algaes being propagated...

Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae...

2004-04-16 Thread Andrew Lowe
Marc Orion Cardoso wrote: Hi. We have done extensive rd in algae production for food fuel and fertiliser... go to our website for more on this topic. click on And your web site is where? the tour ecogenics and youll see various fuel grade algaes being propagated... also,

Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae...

2004-04-16 Thread Andrew Lowe
Andrew Lowe wrote: Marc Orion Cardoso wrote: Hi. We have done extensive rd in algae production for food fuel and fertiliser... go to our website for more on this topic. click on And your web site is where? Replying to my own email, from some references in other emails

[biofuel] Re: oil from algae...

2004-04-16 Thread Marc Orion Cardoso
- Sorry about that the website is www dabney.com/ecogenics/ scroll down to the list of dabney's hosted websites.. or just write in ecogenics on google or aol.. no .com or anything im sure youll find it.. the skin care people are in germany and have nothing to do with us... we dont mind

Re: [biofuel] Re: Biogas was Rejoining list with a question

2004-04-16 Thread Olivier Morf
I gave you a 10 cubic meters capacity as an example. The manual start at 4 cubic meter approximately 2-3 cattles (24 Kg and 24litters). My guess is that any dung can do, pigs included. Once I asked the guy at BSP about humans and the answer was as long as you have the quantity. You know

[biofuel] (fwd) Prius+ Alternative Proposed for Abandoned EV Owners and other Alt-Fuel Fans

2004-04-16 Thread murdoch
I have been asked to forward this to a few groups. I'm including the biofuel group even though there is no direct biofuel angle on the motor side of the operation, because of the general inerest that some biofuel fans have often shown for improved fueling and other options, and for the extreme

[biofuel] first batch

2004-04-16 Thread pivincent
I sent a message 2-3 days ago. Hasn't shown up yet. I'll try again: Hello fellow biodieselers! I can say that now that I made my first batch. It was just a 1 litre batch, here's how I went about it: - .2 l methanol (99.9%) with 3.5 g gillett lye (100%) shaken in a jar on and off over a

Re: [biofuel] Re: Biogas was Rejoining list with a question

2004-04-16 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Thank you, Bright Blessings, Kim At 09:48 AM 4/16/2004, you wrote: I gave you a 10 cubic meters capacity as an example. The manual start at 4 cubic meter approximately 2-3 cattles (24 Kg and 24litters). My guess is that any dung can do, pigs included. Once I asked the guy at BSP about humans

Re: [biofuel] one-tank SVO?

2004-04-16 Thread Rachel Burton
yes. We had a training/install workshop with them in March. Here's a link to the review... http://www.biofuels.coop/blog/archives/66.html for pictures check out www.localaction.biz click on Elsbett workshop. rachel On Apr 16, 2004, at 11:34 AM, John Blackmer wrote: does anyone know