[biofuel] Picking up my first load of used cooking oil

2004-05-19 Thread TJ Ferreira
Just getting started in making biodiesel. Ordering items I need to make my first batch as I have nothing other than the book from the fryer to the fuel tank. Decided to call a local restaurant and the chef there said I can come by and take cooking oil when he has it. He empties the used

[biofuel] Re: USDA: Cattle Brains May Be Turned Into Biofuels

2004-05-19 Thread Marc Orion Cardoso
I know a few politicians whose brains should be turned into biodiesel- but im not sure theyd pass astm standards... lolololol.. Marc - In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=storycid=585e=3u=/nm/20040517/sc_nm/madcow_waste_dc

[biofuel] Back again!

2004-05-19 Thread malcolm958196
Hi everyone. I used to be a member a while back - but I had a back injury that could have been serious, I'm ok now tho. I'm trying to catch up with work what you guys have been up to while I've been gone! A big hello to Steve Spence, how you doing buddy? - you did me a big favour with Lucas

[biofuel] Anyone here make there own processor from cone shaped plastic tank?

2004-05-19 Thread TJ Ferreira
If you have made your own processor from one of these neat plastic cone shaped tanks with matching stand that you can get from places like US Plastics, I would like to ask you some questions if I can as I am making my own and like the clean look of this type of setup. I want something like the

Re: [biofuel] Anyone know of a good list for saving energy in the home?

2004-05-19 Thread Darryl McMahon
Ryan Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, It's almost summertime, and for those of us in the Arizona desert that means high energy bills for cooling. I am looking for a good list on how to save energy (mainly to enquire on proper AC control.) If any of you can shed light on my

[biofuel] Use of patented material ( was Re: Syngas to methanol )

2004-05-19 Thread Greg Harbican
There is this thought on the use of patented material. The patent last for 7 years( ? ), and during that time it gives the owner / inventor legal right to make exclusive profit from it ( generally figured to recover the cost of development ). If during that time someone else uses the

Re: [biofuel] Anyone know of a good list for saving energy in the home?

2004-05-19 Thread MH
murdoch wrote: The indoor-tending thing sounds intruiging, but Id probably start with something a bit simpler. snip One of the simplest things I've done is to leave some canned goods in the vehicle parked in the sun for warming. Maybe one could leave it on the balcony or window

[biofuel] Hard to describe the feeling

2004-05-19 Thread lostinthelife
It's hard to describe what I'm feeling right now just sitting here looking. I'm a little proud, like a father who sees his child sleeping. I'm a little humble, like someone learning a new insight into the way nature works. I'm a little excited, like I'm standing on the threshold to a new

[biofuel] Biodiesel Equipment Class, berkeley, Ca, May 30

2004-05-19 Thread girl mark
Homebrew Biodiesel Equipment Building and Design Class May 30, 12-6 Berkeley CA email me for directions to the workshop site: [EMAIL PROTECTED] $20-$50 sliding scale optional 80-page biodiesel homebrewing guidebook available $8 I am teaching a one-day biodiesel equipment building workshop

Re: [biofuel] Syngas to methanol

2004-05-19 Thread mark schofield
Walt Does you have any reference files I could look at please? I know that Sasol in South Africa have been using a GTL technology via an Iron-Oxide catalyst to produce very low sulphur diesel / petrol since the 1950's. The catalyst is now changing over to cobolt to reduce / prevent the

[biofuel] Re: First time collecting used oil and have questions.

2004-05-19 Thread Keith Addison
Fwd from the [Biodiesel] list. Does anyone use one of these nifty drill pumps? Connect it to an electric drill (wonder if a cordless drill would be strong enough) and this might making collecting oil from their bucket to my bucket easier. Is only $15 plus a $3 coupler. Looks like a nice idea.

Re: [biofuel] Anyone here make there own processor from cone shaped plastic tank?

2004-05-19 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Tom First, this: So, thanks for letting me know who you are so I can email you some questions as I do not want to clog up this group with many newbie questions for people not using this platsic cone shapped design. Please don't do that, it won't clog up the group, that's what the

Re: [biofuel] Hard to describe the feeling

2004-05-19 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Ryan, and welcome. Nice place to be lost in. As you might imagine, there have been a lot of posts like this, all different though, but always a pleasure to read. A magic moment indeed, it always makes me a little envious because you only experience it once and that was five years ago.

Re: [biofuel] Thanks!

2004-05-19 Thread mohamed hassan
Dear Keith Addison Thank you for setting up this grate forum that has provided me with a lot of help in My PhD in Bio Diesel Processing, am sure others will agree with me that this is a grate job that you are doing and we all appreciate it Mohamed Hassan(PhD Researcher) Chem Eng Loughborough

RE: [biofuel] Hard to describe the feeling

2004-05-19 Thread Mark McElvy
If you don't mind driving a little, There is a supplier north of Jefferson City selling at $1.50 a gal in 55's. They sell clean drums for 15.00 or you can bring your own. I'll have to find there name and number if interested. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.435.9628 - Office

[biofuel] Washing methods/Pressure

2004-05-19 Thread Matt S
I'm in the process of planning out a garage-based biodiesel system, but I'm confused abou two things. First, what is the best method of washing biodiesel? I have heard of the mist method, which I assume sprays a light mist over the diesel, lets it sink to the bottom, which is then drained

[biofuel] Re: First time collecting used oil and have questions.

2004-05-19 Thread Matt S
I searched the group and hadnt seen this posted, but here is what I use: http://www.outdoorsuperstore.com/store/products/productDisplay.asp? productID=405464 They can be found at Dick's Sports Goods for $24.99. You can also use a shop vac with $3 worth of modifications to suck oil out of a

[biofuel] Is there a complete Biodiesel manufacturing kit available?

2004-05-19 Thread bcolins
I'm a newbie here but have had an interest in the biodiesel concept for a number of years. I'm wondering if there is a complete system for making your own Bio- D available yet. I want something that will do it right and is capable of fairly large quantities. I would rather pay the bucks

RE: [biofuel] Re: USDA: Cattle Brains May Be Turned Into Biofuels

2004-05-19 Thread Bryan Brah
Hhow far can you drive on a thimbleful of BD? -BRAH -Original Message- From: Marc Orion Cardoso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:58 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Re: USDA: Cattle Brains May Be Turned Into Biofuels I know a few

[biofuel] Weird Gummy Stuff

2004-05-19 Thread Gundle, Noam
Hello, I made a 5 gallon batch today, and had a few problems. I tried to mix the methanol/lye in blenders, and it didn't work. The seals of the blenders must be shot, because the methanol leaked out. So we mixed the methoxide by hand in a large beaker (all done in my fume hood). I added the

Re: [biofuel] Syngas to methanol

2004-05-19 Thread Walt Patrick
At 09:41 AM 5/19/04 +0100, you wrote: Walt Does you have any reference files I could look at please? Nothing that's not available on the net through google. with best wishes, Walt Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for

[biofuel] Re: some saturday fun for us.. madeour first B20

2004-05-19 Thread j_schearer2000
Marc, when you say you converted your distillery, are you not producing ethanol anymore? If so, how come? Also, how many vehicles have you been running on ethanol and what is the ratio of ethanol to gas that you can run without modifying the engine-relative to fuel injected engines? One of

[biofuel] Re: Anyone here make there own processor from cone shaped plastic tank?

2004-05-19 Thread TJ Ferreira
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Tom First, this: So, thanks for letting me know who you are so I can email you some questions as I do not want to clog up this group with many newbie questions for people not using this platsic cone shapped

[biofuel] Hawaii's solution

2004-05-19 Thread Art Krenzel
I send this hesitatingly because I am not certain of all of the options for disposal in Hawaii. This came across as the Tip of the Week. TIP OF THE WEEK Last week, we asked readers to share their thoughts on the best way for consumers to dispose of household cooking

RE: [biofuel] Hard to describe the feeling

2004-05-19 Thread Pool, Ryan
Mark, Thanks for the information. If it's not too much trouble I'll take the name and number from you. I don't know if it would be economically feasible since that's quite a trip for me but it would still be good to know how to get in touch with them. Thanks, Ryan -Original

[biofuel] Re: Washing methods/Pressure

2004-05-19 Thread biobenz
By far the method of choice is the Idaho Bubble Washing method; http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bubblewash2.html#container all the details are laid out. And as for a wash tank design try: http://www.veggieavenger.com/avengerboard/viewtopic.php?t=333) Luc --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com,

[biofuel] Diesel VWs: High Mileage Vehicles, Well Kept Secrets?

2004-05-19 Thread murdoch
I have collected four testimonials to high-mileage VW Diesels that came up in discussion. I have seen many such testimonials over the years, but I have been meaning to make a few points in response to them. These came up recently, in response to reports that the two gasoline hybrids have not

Re: [biofuel] Diesel VWs: High Mileage Vehicles, Well Kept Secrets?

2004-05-19 Thread Hakan Falk
MM, You asked about VW, Europe and biodiesel. In Europe the VW diesels are certified for RME fuel (biodiesel). The are clearly stating that in the specifications. Hakan At 20:16 19/05/2004, you wrote: I have collected four testimonials to high-mileage VW Diesels that came up in discussion.

[biofuel] Re: Anyone here make there own processor from cone shaped plastic tank?

2004-05-19 Thread TJ Ferreira
Thanks for the links. I have had a few minutes to look over but will read further when I have more time. My main concern is safety at this point and I am hearing, from at least the links you provide, the cone tanks that are plastic, are not safe. I did not find any stories about tanks catching

Re: [biofuel] Anyone on this group live in Oklahoma? what sh*t

2004-05-19 Thread Lyle Estill
Restaurants in North Carolina are getting about a penny a pound for their wvo, or around 5.00 for a 55 gallon drum. On May 19, 2004, at 3:22 PM, CH wrote: I agree! That bit about the restaurants planning on selling their grease to a recycling company is the most bogus part of the article.

Re: [biofuel] Anyone on this group live in Oklahoma? what sh*t

2004-05-19 Thread CH
I agree! That bit about the restaurants planning on selling their grease to a recycling company is the most bogus part of the article. Does anyone know of restaurants who actually sell their waste veg oil to a renderer? Chris billy truman wrote: resturants don't sell the used oil, the pay

Re: [biofuel] Anyone on this group live in Oklahoma? what sh*t

2004-05-19 Thread Lawrence Hein Hein
Iam in the recycling business in Dallas, TX There are several companies in our area who buy used cooking oil. The market changes from the haulers charging to haul off, to paying as much as .27 cents per gallon for used cooking oil. If the generator is a large operation with multiple locations

Re: [biofuel] Anyone on this group live in Oklahoma? what sh*t

2004-05-19 Thread lendzian
Here in South East Ga, the waste grease removal business is very cut throat. I had a regular, free pickup service going on and got edged out by a big pickup firm locally. What's better than free- a contract- that's what. In rural Ga, used grease is often sold to folk for use in personal

[biofuel] Another first batch question

2004-05-19 Thread lostinthelife
Yesterday when I made my first biodiesel I used a cheap GE blender. I know that Josh Tickrell says in his book to shut off the blender if the motor and or mixing chamber gets excessively hot. Mine did get hot, but I don't know what he means by excessively hot. It certainly wasn't hot

Re: [biofuel] Hawaii's solution

2004-05-19 Thread lendzian
Art, check this out: http://www.biodiesel.com/ -Michael ++ Quoting Art Krenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I send this hesitatingly because I am not certain of all of the options for disposal in Hawaii. This came across as the Tip of the Week. TIP OF

[biofuel] [biofuels] Re: US poll about Iraq war

2004-05-19 Thread pivincent
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Colonisation was not however an unmitigated disaster for India and had many positives. We are bringing them to Christianity said Slater on the slave ship. An upright and honest judicial system that continued to dispense humane

Re: [biofuel] Diesel VWs: High Mileage Vehicles, Well Kept Secrets?

2004-05-19 Thread murdoch
Thanks for the info. I wonder if we can push for that certification in the United States, and what it will take, both from the company and the government and others? On Wed, 19 May 2004 20:35:51 +0200, you wrote: MM, You asked about VW, Europe and biodiesel. In Europe the VW diesels are

Re: [biofuel] Is there a complete Biodiesel manufacturing kit available?

2004-05-19 Thread Appal Energy
No Brian, There is no complete system. There are those that would try to convince you that they are complete, with turns on phrases such as most complete system available, etc., all while fleecing you for high dollars and preying upon your green inclinations. The process of making biodiesel is

[biofuel] Re: Anyone here make there own processor from cone shaped plastic tank?

2004-05-19 Thread Keith Addison
Thanks for the links. I have had a few minutes to look over but will read further when I have more time. My main concern is safety at this point and I am hearing, from at least the links you provide, the cone tanks that are plastic, are not safe. I didn't see that as the major issue with the

Re: [biofuel] Weird Gummy Stuff

2004-05-19 Thread Keith Addison
Hello, I made a 5 gallon batch today, and had a few problems. I tried to mix the methanol/lye in blenders, and it didn't work. The seals of the blenders must be shot, because the methanol leaked out. So we mixed the methoxide by hand in a large beaker (all done in my fume hood). I added

[biofuel] Re: Anyone here make there own processor from cone shaped plastic tank?

2004-05-19 Thread Keith Addison
Hello again Tom --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Tom First, this: So, thanks for letting me know who you are so I can email you some questions as I do not want to clog up this group with many newbie questions for people not using this

Re: [biofuel] Hawaii's solution

2004-05-19 Thread Art Krenzel
Michael, I think you need to contact Don Piepgrass, a civil engineer for the city and county of Honolulu and let him know of your fine alternative. Great Photos! Art - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 1:04

[biofuel] Fw: Your last e-mail

2004-05-19 Thread Art Krenzel
Keith, Per our discussion, I have these emails to submit to the Biofuels forum. These are a series of emails that I had with Stuart Hoernig on his concept of de-humidifying air with electrostatics. They read in reverse order. Stuart was kind enough to FAX me two pages which were the basis

[biofuel] Biodiesel Powered Chainsaw

2004-05-19 Thread Tilapia
In case anyone wondered if this was possible, I finally started operating my biodiesel powered chainsaw today. Runs well. This is all part of my grease economy plan, a goal of replacing all types of fossil fueled equipment with renewable energy based alternatives. I'm on my way, but it will

[biofuel] Oyama, British Columbia: biofuel business to make ethanol and feed cattle?

2004-05-19 Thread murdoch
I am curious for opinions here not as to the likelihood of making money in investment (anyone can see that's extremely unlikely), but as to their particular technological plans and whether there is good or bad in them. I have copied and pasted part of the quarterly starting with a description of

Re: [biofuel] [biofuels] Re: US poll about Iraq war

2004-05-19 Thread MALCOLM MACLURE
Interesting views aired, and valid too. But no nation is without guilt at some point in its history, in its treatment of its own nationals and those of other nations, past or present. The universal word that applies to us all, whatever nationality, is greed. As soon as we all loose this