i suspect that lots of Floridians are suddenly paying attention to the
scientists who have been saying for a decade that unless the
world cuts hydrocarbon emissions (think sign the Kyoto Accords
that are being rejected by Bush and Congress) there would be
increasingly violent, unusual
There is a series of books called Fox Fire or Fire Fox that
relates to how people lived in the Appalachian Mountains prior to modern
conveniences. There were several ways for cooling. Blocks of ice were
cut from ponds and heavily saw dusted and stored in sheds through most
of summer. The saw
I have, but if possible I would like to build a natural system that
does not require energy. They had to store food here before
electricity, all I need to find out is how.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
At 09:41 AM 9/9/2004, you wrote:
Have you considered gas fired refrigerators?
Hi Kim,
In
I don't know if the wwia.org server can handle phorum, which is a php
powered discussion group program. It works very well, in my
experience. Would something like this make it easier to manage the
list rather than emails? I find it difficult to follow discussions
and topics the way
I am reposting this as I am not sure if it got out to everyone before the
switch from yahoo. I did not get any response to it before so I'm sure it
either didn't get out or I sent it to the wrong groupbut it does not
look like the wrong group to me, I'm sure there is plenty of experience and
I have a link on my homesteading site (personal webpage) with info and
plans to build a refrigeration unit without gas or electric, but it does
require a heat source. The system was invented in the early 1800's,
but not used until about or after the Civil War period. They didn't
have gas or
It's not glass, but it's gas absorption
See http://www.ggw.org/~cac/IcyBall/crosley_icyball.html
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Welter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Creating a cool room storage in a hot climate
Hi I am new to this site, i live in regional Australai and there are plenty
of oportunities to purchase/ make gear and obtain vegetable oil products.
Re Bush/ Kerry
How are Bush and kerry on biofuels surely that's the question guys
The fossil fuel loby is very strong here.
Getting an even
Ice Houses, canning, things like that, but, down were you live, it wasn't
until the 1800's that they had a reliable way of preserving fresh food - it
was an ammonia based refrigerator.
Greg H.
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From: Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Become an American citizen... and denounce your current citizenship
jcg
-Original Message-
From: Doug Foskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 3:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kerry preferred around World - Poll
Sorry, but as a world
Hi,
I hope this don't come out the wrong way because I mean to try to help.
Kim, I don't know where you need this cool storage, are you assuming there
was cool storage before electrical power was available or do you have
historical evidence of such cool storage? In the event that historical
Actually, I'd like to see a lot more on bio-fuel and a lot
less of this kind of stuff. That said, it's worth answering
Allan's reply. I would suggest he go straight to the source and
consider what our enemies, Al Qaeda, think about George Bush.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1068257.htm
To be honest, this is the way I feel.
Greg H.
The only problem with political posts is that they can disagree
with how we feel about a given issue. My first response to the Kerry
Poll results was that American politics are not the business of the
rest of the world. However, this is
I don't think adding oxygen is practical, and I wouldn't recommend it
anyway. In pure oxygen you can burn just about anything including steel
under the right conditions.
Diesels always operate (unless something is drastically wrong) with a
surplus of air, but one of the big problems with diesel
Hello Todd,
Thank you very much. We got a look/see of the large-scale plans. Our
primary focus is fuel ethanol. We help people set up coalitions, among
other things. One of our groups also wants to produce biodiesel as a
secondary venture. Like you and your group, we believe that many small
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From: Andres Yver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Allan,
Not so long ago, people around the world were concerned about the spread
of Communism. We looked to Moscow and hoped the next Russian leader would
be a moderate, not one of the old-guard intelligence community
Hi Kim and Garth and All ;;
They had to store food here
before electricity, all I
need to find out is how.
I think there were many ways of storing food before
electricity, but only one involved the cold
temperatures that you indicated : Ice storage. In
other words, make lots of ice when
[snip]
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3) What is the weather like around your house ( hot mild dry damp
ect...)?
Hot and humid, I am 125 miles north of the Gulf of Mexico in Texas.
Summer
highs can hit 117F, lots of rain, heavy down pours are common such as 18
inches in 24 hours.
Double ouch!
I
Hi,
I hope this don't come out the wrong way because I mean to try to help.
Kim, I don't know where you need this cool storage, are you assuming there
was cool storage before electrical power was available or do you have
historical evidence of such cool storage? In the event that
Hello Peggy
Hello Todd,
Are you the designer of the open source biodiesel 833 plant? If not,
do you know a contact person or the person who designed the plan? I
have a box of chocolates standing by for whoever can send me a
readable copy that we can use as a reference. The JtF copy is
Hi Martin and everyone: But yet we hear of polar ice
caps melting... Here in california, the migration of
salmon altered..these are a few modest examples of
weather/environmental patterns changing related to
pollution. Everything is interconnected.
Ana
--- Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Martin and everyone: But yet we hear of polar ice
caps melting... Here in california, the migration of
salmon altered..these are a few modest examples of
weather/environmental patterns changing related to
pollution. Everything is interconnected.
Ana
I didn't say it wasn't
Phorum is good software, open source. The 5.07 beta is really powerful.
It allows lists such as this to have a web interface that arranges
subjects and threads in a visually meaningful manner, yet retains full
list functionality for those who prefer email. The integration is
pretty
You might want to get a copy of Five Acres and Independence by M. G.
Kains. It was written in the 1940's and is sort of considered the
bible of small scale farming. My copy is packed away, but if I
remember correctly (and I may not) it has info on building a root
cellar and a ice house
August 2004
http://www.dieselnet.com/
California releases final greenhouse gas emission proposal
The California Air Resources Board (ARB) released its final report
proposing a regulation that limits greenhouse gas emissions from
passenger cars and light trucks beginning in 2009. The
August 2004
http://www.dieselnet.com/
Study links diesel exhaust exposure with ovarian cancer
A new study completed in Finland concluded that exposure to diesel
exhaust may be linked with increased risk of ovarian cancer. The
study, which correlated occupational exposure to diesel and
August 2004
http://www.dieselnet.com/
AIST, private firms to test DME trucks in Japan
Japan's National Institute of Advanced Science and Technology (AIST)
and eight private companies (CO-OP EV, Mitsubishi Gas Chemical,
Itochu, Itochu Enex, JFE Holdings, Fukuyama Transporting, Ono Sokki,
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/37763/
http://www.dieselnet.com/
Health Effects of Diesel Particulates [subscriber access]
DieselNet Technology Guide È Health and Environmental Effects
Health Effects of Diesel Particulates
Abstract: The health effects of diesel particulates, a complex
US DOE and the EPA announced that the USA and seven other countries
(Australia, India, Italy, Japan, Mexico, the United Kingdom, and
Ukraine) will form the Methane to Markets Partnership to promote
the use of methane. The Partnership--to be officially launched at a
Ministerial Conference in
At 06:03 AM 9/10/2004, you wrote:
Hallo Kim,
I remember you live in Texas but I don't remember if you ever said
where. The valley, hill country, east Texas? My father was from
Harlingen and I lived in west Texas in San Angelo for a time.
I am about 25 miles west of Huntsville,
vacation coming up so he will have time to look at it.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
At 10:24 PM 9/10/2004, you wrote:
It's not glass, but it's gas absorption
See http://www.ggw.org/~cac/IcyBall/crosley_icyball.html
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Welter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
ago. My climate is much hotter and we do not freeze for long enough to
create an ice block, even in the worst winter. I am south of the snow line.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
At 08:27 PM 9/10/2004, you wrote:
There is a series of books called Fox Fire or Fire Fox that
relates to how people
Reply below...
Keith Addison wrote:
Hello Peggy
Hello Todd,
Are you the designer of the open source biodiesel 833 plant? If
not, do you know a contact person or the person who designed the
plan? I have a box of chocolates standing by for whoever can send
me a readable copy that we
Ana Elisa Fuentes wrote:
Hi Martin and everyone: But yet we hear of polar ice
caps melting... Here in california, the migration of
salmon altered..these are a few modest examples of
weather/environmental patterns changing related to
pollution. Everything is interconnected.
Ana
I didn't
Hi,
An example of why cool room storage may not be possible in a hot
climate. One has to live in a climate that has winter temperatures to create
ice for it to be harvested and stored. Even in Kansas we have winters where
it isn't cold enough for enough consecutive days to great quality ice
i suspect that lots of Floridians are suddenly paying attention to the
scientists who have been saying for a decade that unless the
world cuts hydrocarbon emissions (think sign the Kyoto Accords
that are being rejected by Bush and Congress) there would be
increasingly violent, unusual
- Original Message -
From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 00:12
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Using an email discussion list
The only problem with political posts is that they can disagree
with how we feel about a given
Hiya Kim,
(a variant of hello?)
You might want to check into strawbaling the walls of any edifice you choose to
build for your chill-room. As your water table is so high, I'm assuming you're
not going subterranean, which would be a no-no with straw. BUT, if you're
going to build above
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